Should steam give out free games like epic?

[Scoobert Doobert]

Just an idea, its really the only plus epic has over steam. Most likely, wouldn't happen because steam already gives out some insane deals throughout the year tho.

[Tito Shivan]

引用自 Babi Gendut：

I never expected egs free games campaign will last forever. But I won't blame them for that.

The fact there's threads asking Steam to do the same as Epic is a hint of up to which extent some people are giving free games for granted.

引用自 Babi Gendut：

Sure, there is always ungrateful people who expect more and will show the dissatisfaction if epic ever stop the free giveaways. But they won't feel that way forever.

Quite a lot will be. Dropping the free giveaways is going to be the end of the 'honeymoon phase' with Epic for a lot of people. Just as it's happened with Steam for lots of people over the years.

They'll stop being 'the good guys' and become 'another greedy company'... Ironically they won't be able to complain about it at Epic's place.

引用自 Babi Gendut：

And they won't just abandon their game library either. They'll keep using egs and eventually buy something there.

I'm skeptical on Epic's turnout rate from free hoarders to actual customers. The fact they've extended the free giveaways for so long and increased the frequency of giveaways could be seen as game giveaways isn't turning freeloaders into actual customers at the desired rates. Specially considering other services which used the same strategy (GOG, Origin) did it for a way shorter timespan.

Epic is now dancing on that thin line between being seen as a gaming service or just a place to grab free games from.

[Angel]

Steam already has plenty of free games.

[Meister Donut]

引用自 Angel：

Steam already has plenty of free games.

^Pretty much this.

Just look here:

https://store.steampowered.com/search/?sort_by=Released_DESC&ignore_preferences=1&maxprice=free&category1=998&os=win

Edited out the demos's and DLC's

[🍋 Lemonfed 🍋]

how many games did epic gave and how much time do you think someone would need to play them in order to beat them all ?

I mean mmmmm , I bet some peoples will probably take years to get tired of everything they gave away if they took the time to claim everything.

[Babi Gendut]

引用自 The Father ☯：

It's kind of funny how people are hating on Epic for good business practices. Back when I was a kid businesses tried to do stuff to get your business, and now they're showing loyalty to Steam for simply being a online game magazine for a few years. What did Steam do for you to earn their loyalty to the point you're turning down free games?

Believe it or not, many steam defenders are people who profit from the steam economy.

People who got money from selling in game items / trading cards on steam marketplace or key resellers business, are obviously feel threatened by any entity that harm steam domination on pc.

That's why I never believed any steam fanboys / epic haters who claim that they care about consumers or game industry.

There is nothing wrong asking steam to give free games once in a while (paid from valve's pocket, not developer's). Not only it will help steam recover customers loyalty that has been taken by egs, but also promote underrated games made by unknown developers.

Valve made over a billion dollars just from 30% tax in 2017, I'm sure they're as capable as epic in terms of free games giveaway.

[kitt]

引用自 Babi Gendut：

引用自 The Father ☯：

It's kind of funny how people are hating on Epic for good business practices. Back when I was a kid businesses tried to do stuff to get your business, and now they're showing loyalty to Steam for simply being a online game magazine for a few years. What did Steam do for you to earn their loyalty to the point you're turning down free games?

There is nothing wrong asking steam to give free games once in a while (paid from valve's pocket, not developer's). Not only it will help steam recover customers loyalty that has been taken by egs, but also promote underrated games made by unknown developers.

Valve made over a billion dollars just from 30% tax in 2017, I'm sure they're as capable as epic in terms of free games giveaway.

how do you figure anything about steam lost customers? Epic grows is laughable at best.
Also why you want Valve to pay Devs for free Giveaways?
Also you should learn how Taxes and Income/Profit works..

[Catnip]

This is what is going to happen with Epic and its "costumers".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3z3brrt1_o

[☎need4naiim☎]

引用自 Lemonfed：

how many games did epic gave and how much time do you think someone would need to play them in order to beat them all ?

I mean mmmmm , I bet some peoples will probably take years to get tired of everything they gave away if they took the time to claim everything.

One of the reasons why constant giveaways is (and will be) working against Epic because they expected those who got freebies would be buying games in their portal in the future. They gaveaway so many huge games that it made a good enough library there to enjoy several games for years because even JUST GTAV will be keeping a gamer occupied for years alone with other smaller games supporting that open world game. And add the freebies from Steam too, and these people will be enjoying a game ecosystem which didn't cost them even a dime for several years.

[Babi Gendut]

引用自 Tito Shivan：

The fact there's threads asking Steam to do the same as Epic is a hint of up to which extent some people are giving free games for granted.

They can do whatever they want. There are people who want free games regardless egs giveaway.

引用自 Tito Shivan：

Quite a lot will be. Dropping the free giveaways is going to be the end of the 'honeymoon phase' with Epic for a lot of people. Just as it's happened with Steam for lots of people over the years.

They'll stop being 'the good guys' and become 'another greedy company'... Ironically they won't be able to complain about it at Epic's place.

Maybe, but not everyone have choosing beggars or fckepic mentality though.

Epic isn't stupid I'm sure they'll reduce the frequency of free games slowly for damage control.

Free games hoarders are mostly teenagers who don't have money to buy games. Once they come to adulthood and made money themselves, they'll understand.

And judging by how anti free games people are mostly anti epic, I got a feeling the loudest hateful voice when epic stop their free games campaign will come from this group. They can be ignored.

引用自 Tito Shivan：

I'm skeptical on Epic's turnout rate from free hoarders to actual customers.

I'm pretty it will be just fine. 7% turnout rate from 100millions customers is still better than 50% turnout rate from 10 millions customers.

引用自 Tito Shivan：

The fact they've extended the free giveaways for so long and increased the frequency of giveaways could be seen as game giveaways isn't turning freeloaders into actual customers at the desired rates.

Nah I don't think so. You don't know what the desired number is. And I think it's the otherwise.

Last year, during mega sales, they gave AAA quality games like gta V and borderlands 2. This year they give one cheap indie games (among us) during mega sales. There are some protest here and there, but it's not as catastrophic as some haters claims.

Sometimes, epic gives the same free games twice, only few months apart. I guess this is one of their method to saturate the free games, so people stop claiming instead of epic stop giving.

引用自 Tito Shivan：

Specially considering other services which used the same strategy (GOG, Origin) did it for a way shorter timespan.

I feel like epic free games campaign is much more effective than gog or origin. Epic uses gaming news channel like pcgaming or kotaku to promote free games. Free stuff is newsworthy material.

The funny thing is, epic haters are actually help promoting egs. Every time I read a news related to epic games, there is always few people who made hateful comments about epic followed by people defending epic while promoting the free games instead.

[Babi Gendut]

引用自 kitt：

how do you figure anything about steam lost customers? Epic grows is laughable at best.

I never said steam lost customers. I said steam is losing customers loyalty. Learn the difference. But of course if steam keep loosing customers loyalty to egs, it will lose customers for real.

引用自 kitt：

Also why you want Valve to pay Devs for free Giveaways?

To help developers? People who give them 30% of their profit. So something like this don't need to happen.

https://kotaku.com/what-happened-after-three-developers-pirated-their-own-1819695100

[lightwo]

Steam does not need to encourage publishers to do giveaways. Both the publishers and Valve make a lot of money through sales. As for the user, Epic will probably change things up as per their business strategy, which I am not familiar with. Steam might not need to change.

Epic's business strategies focus on quick dominance with a lot of starting budget. The Apple lawsuit came with no good intentions or true honesty (inviting Fortnite players to protest...), gaming storefront never focused on the user besides gathering as many as possible. China partially owns Epic. I hope their invasive practices impact them enough to return to how they were half a decade ago, managing their industry-grade gaming engine and publishing their games like any other company, without legal actions where clearly the only entity they intend to impact is themselves.

[Meister Donut]

Btw, who decides which publisher Valve should bribe to give out free games? It's unfair towards others who don't get that benefit. It just doesn't make sense and is a distortion of competition.

[Moogal™]

I don't support Steam giving free games in a large scale. However publishers can give their games free and should continue doing so.

[Tito Shivan]

引用自 Babi Gendut：

Valve made over a billion dollars just from 30% tax in 2017, I'm sure they're as capable as epic in terms of free games giveaway.

Yet business don't spend money without expecting something in return. The question still stands: What's in for Valve for them to make such a expense?

引用自 Babi Gendut：

To help developers? People who give them 30% of their profit. So something like this don't need to happen.

Note it also may not be in the dev best interest to give their game for free (Even when those copies are paid)
For example, GTAO got literally drowned for weeks in cheaters when Epic gave away GTAV for free, affecting the online experience of millions of players.

[gugnihr]

引用自 Babi Gendut：

There is nothing wrong asking steam to give free games once in a while (paid from valve's pocket, not developer's). Not only it will help steam recover customers loyalty that has been taken by egs, but also promote underrated games made by unknown developers.

Valve made over a billion dollars just from 30% tax in 2017, I'm sure they're as capable as epic in terms of free games giveaway.

I think that asking for free stuff to a company that SELL stuff to make a profit is rather dumb and pointless, because selling stuff is what makes a company afloat, so it is just a dumb thing imo.

But since this kind of things TO SOME EXTENT have always been done as a form ofm advertisement, guess what? Steam already does that.

SO what do you expect? That we come here and open threads asking

"Please, please Steam, do what you are already doing, please, please, give us the free stuff that you are already giving us, please"???

If we are talking about ONCE IN A WHILE Steam is already doing that, it is not something that should be taken for granted in my opinion but when someone see a game that they like they just download it and that's it.
Because nobody is so dumb that they feel the need toi ask Steam to do things that they already do.