Nihilism

[Falco]

Opinions?

[chewbachman]

Holografix původně napsal:

chewbachman původně napsal:

Not so much attacked, as much as the feeling that much of what is wrong with the world and what great evil acts occur every day have originated from a very similar belief system to what you espouse. Endorphins are firing. If I torture this puppy, it doesn't really matter. Who would know. All that matters is that I exist now, if existence is even a thing. God doesn't care or exist and moral law is arbitrary. I think true nihilism is a root of evil actions, (if you will even acknowledge evil of course) and that anyone who truly believes in nihilism is a sad individual indeed. Hope, love, and care beyond yourself and the belief that what you do matters and continues on is what will make this world a better place. Not a petty belief in nothingness.

I am espousing nihilism? Where?
Your post is mostly a reaction to scary terms like 'evil' and 'god doesn't care.' If you believe that nihilism is the root of evil actions then I see why you are posting in this manner.
Blame all what's wrong with the world on nihilism, but before you do, for your sake, make sure you understand what it is first. Otherwise your cry is nothing more than a knee-jerk reaction to the phantoms of your own creation.

This topic is entitled:

Nihilism: Opinions.

I have a VERY strong opinion

[Neuro]

chewbachman původně napsal:

Neuro původně napsal:

I have heard one flat earther say that all he needs to see is a video from a camera on a rocket, going from earth to the space station, with no cuts. Why don't they just make that video, fake it even. Then when they still say it is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, they wont have a leg to stand on cause we can all point to that video.

That has been done actually...

You can link it then, right? I'd rather you respond to Holo, you guys are having a fun conversation here.

[Holografix]

chewbachman původně napsal:

Holografix původně napsal:

I am espousing nihilism? Where?
Your post is mostly a reaction to scary terms like 'evil' and 'god doesn't care.' If you believe that nihilism is the root of evil actions then I see why you are posting in this manner.
Blame all what's wrong with the world on nihilism, but before you do, for your sake, make sure you understand what it is first. Otherwise your cry is nothing more than a knee-jerk reaction to the phantoms of your own creation.

This topic is entitled:

Nihilism: Opinions.

I have a VERY strong opinion

Strong? I don't know about that.
You definitely have an opinion though.
But given what you've posted, it may be that you aren't quite clear on what nihilism is. Maybe it's better to claim that you have a strong opinion on 'evil' or 'hope.'

[chewbachman]

Neuro původně napsal:

chewbachman původně napsal:

That has been done actually...

You can link it then, right? I'd rather you respond to Holo, you guys are having a fun conversation here.

Not exactly a rocket but this ought to do it just as well...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raiFrxbHxV0&ab_channel=RedBull

[chewbachman]

From Merriam Webster: Ahem

Definition of nihilism

1a : a viewpoint that traditional values and beliefs are unfounded and that existence is senseless and useless Nihilism is a condition in which all ultimate values lose their value.— Ronald H. Nash
b : a doctrine that denies any objective ground of truth and especially of moral truths

[chewbachman]

chewbachman původně napsal:

From Merriam Webster: Ahem

Definition of nihilism

1a : a viewpoint that traditional values and beliefs are unfounded and that existence is senseless and useless Nihilism is a condition in which all ultimate values lose their value.— Ronald H. Nash
b : a doctrine that denies any objective ground of truth and especially of moral truths

I could link a much more thorough study on Nihilism if you like.

[UwU King👑Pikachu]

I prefer nigiri-sm on sushi

[Captain n00by]

chewbachman původně napsal:

Well there is no God

TBH, I think the Hinduist perspective of a "Creator", "Maintainer" and "Destroyer" is pretty spot-on to describe the energies present in the Universe itself.

"Creator" (Brahma) is the energy that creates things and wants to expand.

"Destroyer" (Shiva) is the energy that destroys things and wants to revert back to point of origin.

"Maintainer" (Vishnu) is the energy that keeps a "cosmic balance", that neither "Creator" nor "Destroyer" fully prevail one over another.

But all these are still below a "higher deity" - Brahman.

From Brahman, all these energies emanate from.

[Neuro]

chewbachman původně napsal:

Neuro původně napsal:

You can link it then, right? I'd rather you respond to Holo, you guys are having a fun conversation here.

Not exactly a rocket but this ought to do it just as well...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raiFrxbHxV0&ab_channel=RedBull

I don't care I believe the earth is a globe, but that's not what he said, he also asked that it not be a fish eye lens.

[Neuro]

Ill just put this here too for the Nihilism of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqLk2Q_Dc78

[Sir Dookface McFerretballs]

Haha

Globers and flat earthers are both stupid.

The earth is really just a holographic simulation in a sentient A.I.s dream of electric sheep.

[chewbachman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMfQHzjNvRU&ab_channel=DrummerAndrew

This probably won't convince him since you have to eventually move somewhat parallel to the earth to actually achieve orbit AROUND it, but until we go back to the moon or mars again we probably can't give him the footage he wants of a rocket leaving the Earth until the point it is a big round rotating ball. The fact that the continents are arranged the way they are on the majority of this kind of footage should make him think too. Also since spacecraft separate into stages having an uninterrupted camera that isn't jettisoned at some point is kind of difficult.

[Holografix]

chewbachman původně napsal:

chewbachman původně napsal:

From Merriam Webster: Ahem

Definition of nihilism

1a : a viewpoint that traditional values and beliefs are unfounded and that existence is senseless and useless Nihilism is a condition in which all ultimate values lose their value.— Ronald H. Nash
b : a doctrine that denies any objective ground of truth and especially of moral truths

I could link a much more thorough study on Nihilism if you like.

No need, that one is fine.
But be aware that Ronald Nash is a religious scholar. And is tied to all sorts of stupid opinions and viewpoints.
I would have preferred that you choose a more 'refined' source like a philosophical dictionary, or even Oxford dictionary. But for purposes of this thread, Merriam is fine.

[Neuro]

chewbachman původně napsal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMfQHzjNvRU&ab_channel=DrummerAndrew

This probably won't convince him since you have to eventually move somewhat parallel to the earth to actually achieve orbit AROUND it, but until we go back to the moon or mars again we probably can't give him the footage he wants of a rocket leaving the Earth until the point it is a big round rotating ball. The fact that the continents are arranged the way they are on the majority of this kind of footage should make him think too. Also since spacecraft separate into stages having an uninterrupted camera that isn't jettisoned at some point is kind of difficult.

Wow that is a very nice video tho, that is bound to mess with their head a lil bit, thank you sir.

[Xautos]

chewbachman původně napsal:

Holografix původně napsal:

Seems you feel attacked by the ideology known as Nihilism.
Let me focus your thoughts for you:
1. What exactly is this burden of proof that you feel is put upon you by nihilism?
2. What gives your life meaning?

Not so much attacked, as much as the feeling that much of what is wrong with the world and what great evil acts occur every day have originated from a very similar belief system to what you espouse. Endorphins are firing. If I torture this puppy, it doesn't really matter. Who would know. All that matters is that I exist now, if existence is even a thing. God doesn't care or exist and moral law is arbitrary. I think true nihilism is a root of evil actions, (if you will even acknowledge evil of course) and that anyone who truly believes in nihilism is a sad individual indeed. Hope, love, and care beyond yourself and the belief that what you do matters and continues on is what will make this world a better place. Not a petty belief in nothingness.

Nihilism isn't evil in itself any more than a laugh is a deadly plague. You mentioned it yourself:

chewbachman původně napsal:

From Merriam Webster: Ahem

Definition of nihilism

1a : a viewpoint that traditional values and beliefs are unfounded and that existence is senseless and useless Nihilism is a condition in which all ultimate values lose their value.— Ronald H. Nash

Nihilists have no interest in this moral mental construct called "evil" any more than they have any interest in the idea of being "good". neither of them are valid in any way shape or form. In fact a nihilist wouldn't care how much you attack their values, your point is ultimately meaningless to them no matter what you state.

as for this idea of torturing a puppy, why would a nihilist care for a single puppy or an ant or a blackbird? it's all one and the same, it has no purpose or value to them so torturing such a creature is ultimately without any reason or purpose, in fact the very idea is without meaning.