Whatever happened to the internet?

[Doctor Go-Go]

What WAS a place of freedom and welcome ideas is now under attack and they want to take control of the internet too.

I say buck you control freaks, go back to TV and make another huge controversy over farting again. Go back to the 80's and stay there.

[crunchyfrog]

Messaggio originale di King Narwhal:

I feel like this is one of those "Okay Boomer" moments.

How so?

[King Narwhal]

Messaggio originale di crunchyfrog:

Messaggio originale di King Narwhal:

I feel like this is one of those "Okay Boomer" moments.

How so?

Mainly talking about OP. "Boomer" period ended in the early 60s, meaning they would have been in early adulthood in the 80s. OP is talking about how great things were "back in the day", despite the fact that it wasn't really much better, arguably. Thus, "Okay Boomer".

[DieegoPeri]

Messaggio originale di crunchyfrog:

Oh goody - gatekeeping and the "no true scotsman" fallacy.

I ONLY stated I have friends that are anarchists and what they stood for. Nothing more. Stop trying to put words in my mouth, if you are.


I don't care whether you claim there was anarchy to start with. I only concerned the point that anarchy cannot be total. That's all.

Don't worry, he is a master of gatekeeping, he has no idea about anything yet claims he knows everything. He's just an idiot who thinks everything he believes in is the absolute truth. Check the "iPhone 12" thread in the Off-Topic forum.

Gatekeeper is his last name, he should take care, we need more laughs in this shady world. Calling himself "Man", talking about absolute terms, a manchild he is as I stated previously lol

"Shady? The definition of shady you are currently referring to is wrong as there have been historical instances of a Shade [...]"

PD: barbarians were not anarchist, there was a hierarchy no matter what Hollywood says, "Crime" such as murdering is still a "Crime" as I'm not referring to smoking weed or drinking alcohol being minor, etc etc

[Kaylia MoonRaven]

Messaggio originale di DieegoPeri:

Messaggio originale di crunchyfrog:

Oh goody - gatekeeping and the "no true scotsman" fallacy.

I ONLY stated I have friends that are anarchists and what they stood for. Nothing more. Stop trying to put words in my mouth, if you are.


I don't care whether you claim there was anarchy to start with. I only concerned the point that anarchy cannot be total. That's all.

Don't worry, he is a master of gatekeeping, he has no idea about anything yet claims he knows everything. He's just an idiot who thinks everything he believes in is the absolute truth. Check the "iPhone 12" thread in the Off-Topic forum.

Gatekeeper is his last name, he should take care, we need more laughs in this shady world. Calling himself "Man", talking about absolute terms, a manchild he is as I stated previously lol

"Shady? The definition of shady you are currently referring to is wrong as there have been historical instances of a Shade [...]"

PD: barbarians were not anarchist, there was a hierarchy no matter what Hollywood says, "Crime" such as murdering is still a "Crime" as I'm not referring to smoking weed or drinking alcohol being minor, etc etc

This is not the way to do a discussion.. never go for the person, tear his arguments apart instead.. u should apologize..

[DieegoPeri]

Messaggio originale di Kaylia The Cookie Thief:

This is not the way to do a discussion.. never go for the person, tear his arguments apart instead.. u should apologize.. :winter2019happyyul:

You are actually right, even though I feel that some people are gatekeepers and find them funny, I shouldn't extend an off-topic with pointless content even if the gatekeepers keep doing that. The quoting system of Steam is trash, and I apologize to anyone having a hard time reading all of this pointless content, I apologize in the name of ｢ ᛗ A N ｣ too for all of his manchild attitude along with my long posts

[☎need4naiim☎]

Because some dangerously abhorrent EVIL (no joking) minded extremely wealthy families (most of them moved over to Chi_na now and support/fund its digitalized rigorious regime) became aware of Internet's inherent power during 90's and wanted to control all humanity by the means of Internet and digitalizing the WHOLE planet; even your thoughts, personality and your money, by destroying your previous culture and eradicating your present religious beliefs (including Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Budism, Taoism, Hinduism... etc.) by funding radical extremists clandestinely to portray all present beliefs (ANY belief really, not just old ones) as poisonous phenomenons and using this false-flag psychology to create an all-new digitalized life in which you behave as a robotic animal, not a human with a thought nor freedom nor a belief.

This is the FOREMOST danger existing for Mankind now and USA/Canada/Britain/Japan/South Korea began to understood this peril albeit a bit later than they had to. Now, we need to KNOW (i won't give exact names here but use your logic) which brands we need NOT to buy and keep our money away from those dictatorships who act as "we are your friends, we are not a distopia really, trust our DIGITALIZED camera system watching you everywhere, support our AI directly connected to government office". Guess what? These ghastly liars are the same people who can block all your wealth in banks (because it is forbidden to use banknotes or real money in their country) with just ONE button without any reason because you have no rights to talk against THAT regime.

[Kaylia MoonRaven]

Messaggio originale di DieegoPeri:

Messaggio originale di Kaylia The Cookie Thief:

This is not the way to do a discussion.. never go for the person, tear his arguments apart instead.. u should apologize..

You are actually right, even though I feel that some people are gatekeepers and find them funny, I shouldn't extend an off-topic with pointless content even if the gatekeepers keep doing that. The quoting system of Steam is trash, and I apologize to anyone having a hard time reading all of this pointless content, I apologize in the name of ｢ ᛗ A N ｣ too for all of his manchild attitude along with my long posts

u can make fun of it all u want, but a lil friendly advice.. i do think u need to get that shovel of urs tho.. u seem to be digging ur own grave..

[DieegoPeri]

Messaggio originale di Kaylia The Cookie Thief:

u seem to be digging ur own grave.. :winter2019happyyul:

Aren't we all in the end? It's just the Internet, a little chit-chat with strangers can't do any bad to anyone

[Kaylia MoonRaven]

Messaggio originale di DieegoPeri:

Messaggio originale di Kaylia The Cookie Thief:

u seem to be digging ur own grave..

Aren't we all in the end? It's just the Internet, a little chit-chat with strangers can't do any bad to anyone

just the internet? u do know its real ppl ur talking to right? ppl with feelings.. theres chit-chat as u call it.. and insults.. two different things.. insults is not the way to talk to ppl.. i shouldent have to tell u this.. treat ppl with respect, itll make this place a lot better for everyone.. but u will learn that when u get older and see things from a different perspective..

[Radene]

Messaggio originale di ｢ ᛗ A N ｣:

Messaggio originale di Radene:

Sure. How does it function, though? An ideal without context is a grotesque and vicious thing.

Fair enough, my references are made through definition & historical accounts.
Again it's far from an idea, our barbarian ancestors of Europe functioned in tribal communes among the regions of Europe without the use of the state & government.

Even a tribal chief with an advisor or two is "a government". Or a council of village elders.

Anarchism can function in an autonomous zone where the commune inhabits an area or property set with rules, or an anarchistic commune can also function like travelling nomads.
It functions in however way that is decided by the community, it isn't restricted to ideology, statism nor governmental affairs & laws.
Hope that helps give you a perspective on the subject.

That's the thing...a government has always come "from the people". Even despotic ones only ever existed because that's what "the community" wanted at the point in time. And the moment your endeavors become complex enough to require pooling of resources and project oversight, any community will gravitate towards choosing someone whose role in the community will be to oversee such things.

And that's, again, "a government".

Two cantons in Switzerland still have an annual (well, not 2020, because corona) "Landesgemeinde". Which is when all the people who reside in them meet, and directly decide upon certain future projects. But even then, there are going to be specific individuals tasked with seeing those projects through, handling the logistics, resource allocation, and so forth. And those are "the government". Of course, it's two of the smaller ones, with populations well below 100.000. Most other cantons eventually, thanks to population numbers, stopped finding such a thing practical.

Still, Swiss people still vote a lot. And I mean, A LOT.

[I got 1984'd]

Internet is a cesspool of humanity. Everywhere humans dwell is a cesspool of humanity, really.

[DieegoPeri]

Messaggio originale di Kaylia The Cookie Thief:

just the internet? u do know its real ppl ur talking to right? ppl with feelings.. theres chit-chat as u call it.. and insults.. two different things.. insults is not the way to talk to ppl.. i shouldent have to tell u this.. treat ppl with respect, itll make this place a lot better for everyone.. but u will learn that when u get older and see things from a different perspective.. :winter2019happyyul:

I do not consider "manchild" or "gatekeeper" an insult, I just consider them as descriptions of attitudes. The "manchild" was just a joke because of the nickname and the "me-all-rightness". It's obvious there are people behind the screens, people with feelings and I'm not pushing anyone to tears. Mocking someone who you think said something really stupid isn't cyberbullying and shouldn't be consider as it, I for example understand it's impossible to convince him he's wrong and there other ways of thinking rather than white or black. Although we all are people with feelings, this is just a post, this is just a forum and I'm not following him through the Internet to oppress him or whatever. He could insult me and I wouldn't even care to answer if I didn't feel like it's worth it.

Yeah, I'm old and smart enough to see things from different perspectives, but I'm even older to know that even though there are different perspectives, I can still stand in my own perspective because most things are subjective and different people with different background will have different opinions and different ways of living life.

It's not as if I was looking for trouble, if he tells me to just stop talking to him, I would just stop talking to him, referring to him and even reading him but... I think he and I are too old to just be bothered by each other. But that's just my point of view.

[Triple G]

Just to say something about it:

Rules are for the "bad" people - You wouldn´t need rules if there are only "good" people. The more people there are - the more "bad" people there are - and probably the more rules You need.

The difficult part is that rules often collide with personal freedom - so it should be about rules which grant that personal freedom, but not too much that "bad" people could have too much influence on the other ones. That´s not easy to do - either people complain that there´s too little personal freedom - or people complain about those "bad" people. It´s more difficult the more people are involved - like in the web for example - that´s more or less the biggest possible society - theoretically every one could be involved.

[poqqers]

i bet i could get a forums ban for saying "i dislike (insert any political name here)"

[Triple G]

Messaggio originale di Poqqers:

i bet i could get a forums ban for saying "i dislike (insert any political name here)"

Probably not in forums which are about political or philosophical discussions - but in those a three word one liner would perhaps be a bit too little and You would get a ban for spam. Who is interested in what anyone likes or not? I mean in forums open to the public? What should that comment be good for? It´s better to say what You like and why - so it´s clear what You dislike any why - and not say something is bad, if You don´t have a better idea.