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an-addiction May 11, 2018 @ 4:55pm
SSD for games HDD for OS. Gaming performance affected?
I got a cheap SSD with 60gb's, but 55gb allocated. Cant afford to put windows 10 on he SSD anymore, as it takes up more than half of the space. I tried everything to make the windows file smaller like the hibernation file and pagesys file but i cant. Only 1 game at a time i could fit with the OS on SSD. So i decided to put the OS on the HDD and have a full 55GB for just games. The longer boot time and system application loading time doesnt bother me, but will have the OS on a HDD affect the games i have downloaded on the SSD, or will the games still load and such at their full potential?
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Spawn of Totoro May 11, 2018 @ 4:59pm 
Performance isn't a factor as the game performance will not be effected.

Only load times would see a difference.

There are good size SSDs out there for around $100. My 120GB one cost about $50 or less now.
an-addiction May 11, 2018 @ 5:00pm 
Originally posted by Spawn of Totoro:
Performance isn't a factor as the game performance will not be effected.

Only load times would see a difference.

There are good size SSDs out there for around $100. My 120GB one cost about $50 or less now.

So having the OS on a different, HDD drive wont effect load times at all of the games on the SSD?
Spawn of Totoro May 11, 2018 @ 5:02pm 
Originally posted by NiAlCa:
Originally posted by Spawn of Totoro:
Performance isn't a factor as the game performance will not be effected.

Only load times would see a difference.

There are good size SSDs out there for around $100. My 120GB one cost about $50 or less now.

So having the OS on a different, HDD drive wont effect load times at all of the games on the SSD?

Not that I am aware of. Swap files would be slower, as well as some caching, but that may not make much difference, if any.
coNNect May 11, 2018 @ 5:08pm 
Originally posted by NiAlCa:
I got a cheap SSD with 60gb's, but 55gb allocated. Cant afford to put windows 10 on he SSD anymore, as it takes up more than half of the space. I tried everything to make the windows file smaller like the hibernation file and pagesys file but i cant. Only 1 game at a time i could fit with the OS on SSD. So i decided to put the OS on the HDD and have a full 55GB for just games. The longer boot time and system application loading time doesnt bother me, but will have the OS on a HDD affect the games i have downloaded on the SSD, or will the games still load and such at their full potential?
if you dont care about longer boot times and system application loading time ...you should yust get 1 tb hdd in the first place..
Azza ☠ May 11, 2018 @ 5:09pm 
You will have a faster, more snappy response with the OS and Boot upon the SSD. The games can be stored upon a stardard HDD (ideally Western Digital Black Edition).

With the Operating System and Boot on SSD, you will find tasks much faster. For games on the other hand, it's like a few seconds loading time difference and they require a quality graphics card to get the FPS, not the drive itself.
an-addiction May 11, 2018 @ 5:10pm 
Originally posted by Ivan007:
Originally posted by NiAlCa:
I got a cheap SSD with 60gb's, but 55gb allocated. Cant afford to put windows 10 on he SSD anymore, as it takes up more than half of the space. I tried everything to make the windows file smaller like the hibernation file and pagesys file but i cant. Only 1 game at a time i could fit with the OS on SSD. So i decided to put the OS on the HDD and have a full 55GB for just games. The longer boot time and system application loading time doesnt bother me, but will have the OS on a HDD affect the games i have downloaded on the SSD, or will the games still load and such at their full potential?
if you dont care about longer boot times and system application loading time ...you should yust get 1 tb hdd in the first place..

SSD just for gaming. Faster loading times, and on a few games, i realize my disk would be at 100% and the game would freeze if theres alot of stuff going on. Thats what lead to to get a SSD to stop the freezing. Hasnt happen since too :steamhappy:
an-addiction May 11, 2018 @ 5:11pm 
Originally posted by Azza ☠:
You will have a faster, more snappy response with the OS and Boot upon the SSD. The games can be stored upon a stardard HDD (ideally Western Digital Black Edition).

With the Operating System and Boot on SSD, you will find tasks much faster. For games on the other hand, it's like a few seconds loading time difference and they require a quality graphics card to get the FPS, not the drive itself.

Most recent post ^^^ was experiencing DISK at 100% and constant freezes, and 2-3 minute loading times. Thats what lead me to just want a gaming SSD. Boot time isnt much of a bother.
Last edited by an-addiction; May 11, 2018 @ 5:11pm
Azza ☠ May 11, 2018 @ 5:41pm 
Originally posted by NiAlCa:
Originally posted by Azza ☠:
You will have a faster, more snappy response with the OS and Boot upon the SSD. The games can be stored upon a stardard HDD (ideally Western Digital Black Edition).

With the Operating System and Boot on SSD, you will find tasks much faster. For games on the other hand, it's like a few seconds loading time difference and they require a quality graphics card to get the FPS, not the drive itself.

Most recent post ^^^ was experiencing DISK at 100% and constant freezes, and 2-3 minute loading times. Thats what lead me to just want a gaming SSD. Boot time isnt much of a bother.

For SSD, trim need to be enabled and approx 10-15% free space (or reserved) at all times. It's the way it works. Deleted files are merely marked for clean up. You can't function SSD correctly at 100% usage, Windows will scream at you accordingly, also due to the swap file read/write, etc.

You should cap your web-browser temporary internet files, remove the hybernation file, and cap the Windows swap file depending on the size of your RAM.

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To rid your OS Drive of Hibernation.sys temp file; launch CMD as Admin (either by going to Command Prompt and right click > Run As Admin; or via the RUN command window)
and type
powercfg -h off
enter key
then reboot; file is remove on next boot.

Just understand this removes sleep mode of the PC, so only do that if you never use it.

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Depending on your system memory (8GB - optimal virtual memory is 4GB / 16GB - optimal virtual memory is 1GB), just don't fully disable. Control Panel > System > Advance System Settings > Advanced > Performance Settings > Advanced > Virtual Memory (Change) - Custom Size: Initial Size = 1024 / Max Size = 1024 (for example - 1GB).

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Download CCleaner:
https://www.ccleaner.com/

The free version is fine to manual run and clear out the junk/temp files to free up space.

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What model of the SSD?
Last edited by Azza ☠; May 11, 2018 @ 5:47pm
Start_Running May 11, 2018 @ 6:23pm 
You generally want that arrangement the other way around. Things like the pagefile and os do better on ssds for system performance which in turn will affect game performance.
Niknokinater May 11, 2018 @ 8:06pm 
A good amount of games do depend on files in the OS (like DirectX, page file).

I can't say that the games would be at their full potential, but imaginably loading better on an SSD than on the HDD despite Windows on the HDD holding you back a bit.
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