Female Representation In Video Games

[Arvaos]

What are your thoughts on female representation in videogames? Have women been oversexualized in video games and media?

Neil Druckmann from Naughty Dog says that the gaming industry has sexualized women, how can games be more representative for female players?

[Sir Dookface McFerretballs]

I don't care. If they want to make sexy ladies or cateye glasses wearing pink haired fat ham-beasts.

I just wish they would make guys sexier, I mean how many male protagonists don't even have a pants bulge, running around like some ripped Ken Doll.

[GuRu Asaki]

Gus the Crocodile の投稿を引用：

GuRu Asaki の投稿を引用：

The problem is: Some women have problems with how they look or appeal on the outside, some men dont care, they like them for who they are, not what they look like...

This is pretty rich when only twenty minutes earlier you were acting like not being ridiculously sexualised means “no one would like them anymore”.

GuRu Asaki の投稿を引用：

Being Annorexic or Desexualizing, is the all the same

Uh, no. One’s a dangerous behavioural disorder and the other one is just not giving sad dudes wank material.

Spud the Spud の投稿を引用：

If anything females are significantly overrepresented and overbuffed in video games, to the point of absurdity. How many games where you can select male/female for your character do you suffer a strength, speed, and toughness penalty for picking the female? I can't think of any. But that's how it is IRL.

Thats how it is at a population level. Those differences are statistical. But in a game you aren’t choosing a population, you’re choosing an individual. Individual characters are not restricted to being incarnations of averageness. [/quote]

1. I meant that they are trying to make people not like what they look like anymore... I dunno, again, im just saying it is sending mixed messages by doing this that confuses people...

2. You can claim im wrong, or that I dont understand why a woman would want this? & thats cause I dont understand...

How are they over-presented in Games?
They look pretty normal to me, its the Anime I find over doing it...

Speed, Agility, Strength, & such in Games? I dont really focus on that at all, I dont care for buffs, debuffs, & such... I just play the Games cause their fun, & dont care who im playing as, I play as everyone Equally, because their all great characters... Too many people are so focused on things like this stuff, that they've forgotten how to make Games enjoyable...

Games are not black & white, they are complex as a creation, but should appeal to everyone as a form of fun entertainment...

If you take away the fun, & enjoyment,
then why are we playing them at all?

Too much stress over such tiny details, have turned Gaming into a hate, instead of fun...

Oh, this looks wrong, this needs tweaking, oh that person needs reshaping, oh this light is the wrong color, oh buff this, de-buff that...

Its not our Game to be calling these things, this is not our job we are not a worker for these Games, we arent being paid to do this... We should only focus on things that really matter, bugs, glitches, & such...

When Gamers intervine with things like this, it makes Games unbalanced, because too many people want different things... Different changes made, they should really just leave them alone... It does more harm then good...

[snlᴉʇnɐNɔᴉɯsoƆ]

Sexuality is a normal part of humanity.

[Gus the Crocodile]

Spud the Spud の投稿を引用：

"Those differences are statistical" No. Your argument is that a strong woman can be the same strength as a man, and sure, they can. An average man.

Saying “no” and then immediately explicitly agreeing with me is pretty weird.

Spud the Spud の投稿を引用：

But if we're selecting heroes, a strong woman is not as strong as a strong man

Uh, they are if they have the same strength, by definition. If you want to interpret “Strength 10/10” or whatever as meaning “in the highest percentile for that gender” rather than an objective standard, that’s your business I guess, but I don’t.

Spud the Spud の投稿を引用：

Oh, as to toughness. Men have a higher pain tolerance (plenty of studies you can look up, it's not a secret), greater bone density (also not a secret), more muscle mass to absorb a blow/cut/etc (thought this was obvious, but here we are). You don't really have a leg to stand on with this one.

I was intentionally just using a different definition of toughness to you. That should be fine as you weren't using a standardised definition, as shown by the fact that you have supplemented it here with three separate measurements - bone density is not “toughness”, it’s bone density; etc. You’re using your own personal definition of toughness, which is fine, I’m just doing the same.

In material science, toughness is the amount of energy something can absorb before breaking, and I like it as a metaphor for people. Men are said to “snap” over trivial ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ all the time, that’s not tough.

GuRu Asaki の投稿を引用：

1. I meant that they are trying to make people not like what they look like anymore...

People always look like what they look like. (Edit: sorry, misread that, didn’t I.)
But still, no, not dressing women solely in bikinis and boobplate is not an attempt to get people to not like the way they look. It’s an acknowledgement that “the way they look” is much broader than “what gross dudes want to ogle”.

GuRu Asaki の投稿を引用：

Games are not black & white, they are complex as a creation, but should appeal to everyone as a form of fun entertainment...

It’s no game’s job to appeal to everyone. All devs (and artists in general) know their work won’t appeal to everyone. That’s normal.

GuRu Asaki の投稿を引用：

If you take away the fun, & enjoyment,
then why are we playing them at all?

I didn’t see anyone proposing we take away fun and enjoyment.

GuRu Asaki の投稿を引用：

Its not our Game to be calling these things, this is not our job we are not a worker for these Games, we arent being paid to do this... We should only focus on things that really matter, bugs, glitches, & such...

We aren’t workers for that either. What you feel “really matters” is up to you of course, but please understand that that’s a personal opinion. You thinking bugs are more important than social issues is not some kind of correct stance. People criticising art is normal and healthy.

[Doomerang]

cosmicnautilus の投稿を引用：

Sexuality is a normal part of humanity.

This guy won the thread with 7 words.

Honestly, if you don't want sexualized games there is nothing stopping you from playing them in favor of your non sexualized ones. It's not right to change every game for you.

[gugnihr]

My thoughts are that videogames are wonder, fun, escapism, and social commentary should be kept far far away from games.
Nobody and nothing from the real world should be represented in games, games serves the purpose of represent only fantastic ad wonderful things and only fantasy should be relevant and represented in games.

[GuRu Asaki]

Having the largest Muscles, or being able to lift 9000 lbs if you really think this is how you win fights, by being stronger then your opponent...

You obviously dont understand how fighting works...

Being the strongest person on the planet, means nothing if someone weaker then you can beat you in a fight in the simplest & quickest way possible...

Being the strongest person alive is only useful in a work environment or safety environment, but in Fighting, it actually is your biggest weakness...

[.: DBM :.]

this thread is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ awful lol....there's plenty of ways to introduce sexual-themes to a game without offending people, but the extent to which publishers/devs/retail-investors chock their product full of coomer ♥♥♥♥ to appeal to the coomer-crowd is a tangible thing that anybody who isnt a cumstained dweeb could easily recognize

[Gus the Crocodile]

Doomerang の投稿を引用：

cosmicnautilus の投稿を引用：

Sexuality is a normal part of humanity.

This guy won the thread with 7 words.

Honestly, if you don't want sexualized games there is nothing stopping you from playing them in favor of your non sexualized ones. It's not right to change every game for you.

Lucky, then that nobody can “change every game”. If people don’t agree with the way devs make their own games, there’s nothing stopping them from making their own alternatives.

gugnihr の投稿を引用：

My thoughts are that videogames are wonder, fun, escapism, and social commentary should be kept far far away from games.
Nobody and nothing from the real world should be represented in games

So games shouldn’t feature people, animals, trees, planets, gravity, music, laughter, sadness, violence, non-violence?

[F]

Castyles の投稿を引用：

I don't give a ♥♥♥♥ and you should do the same.

Pretty much this.

[Arvaos]

gugnihr の投稿を引用：

My thoughts are that videogames are wonder, fun, escapism, and social commentary should be kept far far away from games.
Nobody and nothing from the real world should be represented in games, games serves the purpose of represent only fantastic ad wonderful things and only fantasy should be relevant and represented in games.

They are entertainment but most styles of entertainment have been a commentary on society. The majority of games will ask questions and challenge the player, it has become common that it is now a rarity to find games that don’t explore various themes and topics. Is this now the criteria for a game to be above par or can games? Another question to ask.

Final Fantasy VII challenged players on the progress of technology and climate change.

[Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍]

Games with good stories can the use things we can all relate to. It adds a level of connection to the characters. We can all understand, say, the need to protect a loved one. But that story does not a great game make.

Could you imagine a deep story about Super Mario Brothers? I can't relate to a plumber running around stomping everything to death. So the story is simple.

It's one of the first rules of writing. You have to hook your reader, or in this case player as soon as you can. so I'm a plumber and that runs around trying to save the kingdom and a princess. That's all the information I needed. Whereas if I were to discuss The Wolf among us, I would talk about the characters horrible past, his desire to do right by the people he hurt in the past, and that is exactly why he absolutely destroys that strip club owners bar because he is abusing one of his dancers. And I'm deeply invested now.

I don't play video games for sexy characters. Most people don't. They play because the game is fun and if story heavy engaging.

[MADWACZ]

I don’t care honestly, anything fits if it makes sense and not just agenda ditacted selfinjection bs.
Plus points for balanced armour looks.

[CatLover]

RyReps の投稿を引用：

Neil Druckmann from Naughty Dog says...?

People should stop paying attention to him.

[Doomerang]

Gus the Crocodile の投稿を引用：

Doomerang の投稿を引用：

This guy won the thread with 7 words.

Honestly, if you don't want sexualized games there is nothing stopping you from playing them in favor of your non sexualized ones. It's not right to change every game for you.

Lucky, then that nobody can “change every game”. If people don’t agree with the way devs make their own games, there’s nothing stopping them from making their own alternatives.

gugnihr の投稿を引用：

My thoughts are that videogames are wonder, fun, escapism, and social commentary should be kept far far away from games.
Nobody and nothing from the real world should be represented in games

So games shouldn’t feature people, animals, trees, planets, gravity, music, laughter, sadness, violence, non-violence?

They do make their games the way they want to, the problem is people like you start harrasment campaigns in order to change them. AS I SAID : It's never enough to give you what you want, you just always move the goalpost and want every game made in YOUR image even though there are games specifically tailored for you already. You have to go for games that I like because you think you have a moral obligation.

You are not a good person, you are just part of the outrage mob that wants to feel like he did something good with the least amount of effort. You can't just be content with what you got and what I got, you have to attack, attack, attack.

Heck, there's a thread started by someone like you in freaking chex quest. CHEX QUEST!! a game about CERREAL