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Disco Battle May 11, 2020 @ 7:09am
would it offend to fly an ancap flag outside my house for others to see?
it shouldnt, but since some idiots somehow think liberatarianism is fascist i fear it might get me arrested (im uk btw)
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Sidakte May 12, 2020 @ 11:38am 
I wouldn't prefer to fly a flag of my ideology in my front yard.
That's because my ideology is for myself. If an individual wishes to know what i think about society, economy, equality of genders, religion, politics etc then we can talk privately about those things.
Last edited by Sidakte; May 12, 2020 @ 11:40am
Red Shift May 12, 2020 @ 11:40am 
The only people you would 'offend' would be Luton Town supporters who mistook your silly piece of yellow and black fabric to be a Watford FC flag.

However, if your neighbours find you to be a bit of a ****, don't be surprised if they take the opportunity to raise a complaint over it with your local council.

The only risk you have of being arrested is you repeatedly continue to be a **** and ignore the escalating letters, fines, visits and summons.
Cydramech May 12, 2020 @ 11:41am 
One thing is true. Anarcho-Capitalism is an oxymoron (not capitalism without the state, however), and that benefits capitalism. (Matter of fact, the state is the most anarchist, lawless institution in existence - the state does not realistically forbid anything but permits everything: you just gotta have the right silver tongue.) Thus, there is only one term befitting of stateless capitalism: Autarchism, as coined by Robert Lefevre.

Autarchism vs Anarchy[fair-use.org]

Personally, I deplore the negativity implicit in the idea of no rule. All men are ruled by some one or some thing. The implication of no rule is that men are released from all control, all restraint, even all morality, purpose, or responsibility. Such is not desirable. Nor is it possible. As Rose Wilder Lane says in The Discovery of Freedom, All energy operates under control. Whether it be the energy of an electron, a hurricane, or a man, energy is controlled.

This fact makes scientific knowledge possible. Non-living energy--electricity, for example--always operates in the same way in the same conditions. No one knows what controls it, but because it is controlled, men who have observed how it acts can predict, with sufficient accuracy, how it always will act.

Living energy is different; it is creative, and variable. It changes ... Yet living energy is controlled...

Thus, the idea of no ruler must be applied within a limited framework if it is to have any meaning at all. Realistically, each person rules himself. Anarchy might well imply the absence of self-control, yet even the anarchist controls himself in terms of his own beliefs and aims

[...]

Personally, I do not want a condition of no rulership. I want a condition in which each man is the absolute ruler of himself and all he rightfully possesses. If this is desirable, then it follows that I must direct my energies so as not to impose my will on others even though they may be imposing their wills on certain properties not their own, or on persons other than themselves. I must not seek to become their ruler even as I cannot condone their efforts to rule me and what is mine.

If a word can be found to convey the meaning I intend, it must mean self-rule; the absolute sovereignty of the individual over himself and all that belongs to him.

Fortunately, there is such a word. It is Autarchy.

The prefix, auto, means self. Archy, as we know, means rule or ruling. Autarchy then means self-rule, or the act of self-ruling.

Since I favor total self-control--absolute government of the individual over himself--I believe Autarchy more accurately describes, in a positive fashion, the kind of situation I consider most desirable. Some dictionaries define Autarchy as a kind of tyranny or despotism, but of necessity it is limited to self-application. Thus, an Autarchist may very well be a tyrant over himself, or he might appear tyrannical by refusing to admit others into the sacred precincts of his own mind, person, or property. But if it is tyranny to reject the sycophant, the panhandler, and the central planner, then this kind of tyranny is not reprehensible, to my view.

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Some Autarchists identify themselves as anarchists, but definitively should not be so designated. The peaceful individualist who upholds private ownership of property as a total concept and who sees no merit in the organized coercion of the state, cannot in justice and in common sense be lumped into the same category as the man who opposes property ownership in any of its ramifications and will either violently or peacefully abolish the state in order to collectivize property at any point. Contemporary statists and anarchists (both socialists) apparently believe liberty and anarchy are synonymous. The contrasts provided by the two words are too vast and too basic to crowd them under the same etymological umbrella.
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RebelMouth May 12, 2020 @ 11:53am 
Originally posted by MikeBob2013:
Any flag you fly in your front yard is going to offend somebody, but it wouldn't offend me.

It's your house and your yard, so I say fly whatever flag you want to - just expect some folks to object to it (as I said, no matter what the flag is intended to represent), because that's how people are these days.
Well to be fair some people's flags/signs drive me nuts

There this person in my city with a giant house with a sign that says

"WE welcome people from ALL walks of life, especially refugees" or some muck like that in multiple languages. It's essentially a virtue sign.

Everytime i walk past their place i have to resist the urge to loudly ask "yeahhh?! how many immigrants you got in there, huh?" like a crazy person (knowing full damn well they havent invited any refugees into their home)

I don't always succeed :steamfacepalm: Dooooooooon't think they like me....
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Esoteric May 12, 2020 @ 12:03pm 
Anarcho-Capitalism must be one of the biggest oxymorons I've ever heard of along with National Anarchism and Anarcho-Communism.
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Ganger May 12, 2020 @ 12:09pm 
Originally posted by RebelMouth:

"WE welcome people from ALL walks of life, especially refugees" or some muck like that in multiple languages. It's essentially a virtue sign.

Everytime i walk past their place i have to resist the urge to loudly ask "yeahhh?! how many immigrants you got in there, huh?" like a crazy person (knowing full damn well they havent invited any refugees into their home)

I see signs like this in the UK. To be honest it's nice to know that some people are kind and caring but one thing I always notice is, that they never invite these people into their homes.

That why I always say, that most people in society are hypocrites especially the rich. What makes me angry is when a TV, sport or hollywood star comes on tv and asks you to donate money to help e.g homeless veterans while at the same time living in a masion with 7 bedrooms.
Ganger May 12, 2020 @ 12:16pm 
Originally posted by Plaid:

Like Amazon asking people to donate to their fund to support the employees?

hahahahhahahahhahahha

NOOO you joking, really ?

But saying that, supermarkets in the uk ask you to donate food for food banks while at the same time making billions in profits per year. During this covid-19 crisis, the supermarkets have made a killing and still ask customers to donate food. Can't make this crap up.
Originally posted by Logos:
Anarcho-Capitalism must be one of the biggest oxymorons I've ever heard of along with National Anarchism and Anarcho-Communism.

LOL Anarcho-communism?

That's a new one to me.

That's like saying "I want an anti-government government, and I want it to be the biggest and most oppressive anti-government government possible"

Even hippie communes are governed in some way or another.

These idiots will hyphenate anything these days just because it sounds "edgy" to them, without knowing the meaning or syntax of the "word soup" they are throwing together.
slowdeath May 12, 2020 @ 7:49pm 
ancoms aren't tankies
Doctor Go-Go May 12, 2020 @ 8:13pm 
I didn't want to believe this myself because I had more faith in people once, but most people are brain dead. They're timid, very easy to deceive and manipulate. They know few laws and have very little understanding of what they do know. They want their way and throw a tantrum like a brat if they don't get their way. They don't like what's in the neighbors yard? SO! Then... don't look. Sounds like a control freak to me.

The U.S.A feels as if it has become an oppressed dictatorship again. I say FEELS! People want to silence everyone and sensor everything.

Last edited by Doctor Go-Go; May 12, 2020 @ 8:17pm
Polverrati May 12, 2020 @ 8:28pm 
Originally posted by Starbug:
Libertarianism is the gateway drug to far right fascism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwSts2s4ba4
last thing i remember i was fighting against cheater in a Windows game called what. now this.

flag is attractions, unless you have power, dont fly it
76561198278961361 May 12, 2020 @ 9:00pm 
Originally posted by Starbug:
Libertarianism is the gateway drug to far right fascism
I still want to know how you make a link between libertarianism and fascism.
slowdeath May 12, 2020 @ 9:04pm 
Originally posted by Catgirl Dude:
Originally posted by Starbug:
Libertarianism is the gateway drug to far right fascism
I still want to know how you make a link between libertarianism and fascism.
libertarians tend to be right wing culturally but that's about it
Incarnate May 12, 2020 @ 9:51pm 
Originally posted by MikeBob2013:
Any flag you fly in your front yard is going to offend somebody,

I've seen people fly American flags upside down (it was a creepy neighborhood in a creepy state, Florida) so I imagine it depends on the neighborhood you live in.
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