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Bastila Shan (Ausgeschlossen) 20. Feb. 2020 um 2:36
Can a strong enough magnet kill you?
I was watching xmen 2 where magneto killed a guy by sucking all the iron out of his blood.

What i want to know is can a strong enough magnet suck all the iron out of your blood and kill you?

Ps, there is about 4 grams of iron in the human body.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von davidb11:
Type 1 harnesses their own planet's power. Humanity is essentially a Type 1 civilization.

Why would Kardashev create the scale if humanity doesn't even register as a Type 1? :P

The point though is, we can't begin to even work on a Dyson Sphere, even by the loosest definition of one, and by the time we can, we'll have invented the following major thing, Steller Nucleaic Torpedoes, which can halt the fusion process in a star, causing it to go Supernova. :P

I'm just saying, causing a star to go Supernova is easier than building a Dyson Sphere.
Heck, Stars are less stable than people realize. That's why it's really bad when they hit each other. :P

A white dwarf is a dead star, and it literally will go and flare up in a Supernova if it eats enough mass from around it, not just including a silly amount of Hydrogen. :P

Stars are a bit wacky.

We are currently a .73 civilization, at least according to Wikipedia, as of 2018. We have a ways to go to reach 1.

Do you follow Isaac Arthur on youtube? Interesting channel discussing such things, and other future concepts. For bonus points, he sounds like Elmer Fudd (speech impediment, he really always sounds like that). I remember he mentioned in one of his videos that a type 2 civilization would be able to use the entire power of a star to shoot a laser across the galaxy to destroy a planet orbiting another star with a fraction of one days power. Hot, spicy, and we've had enough of your ♥♥♥♥ before you even made it off of your planet kind of power. Perhaps Star Wars had it wrong, and the Death Star should have been a Dyson Sphere.
Myke 20. Feb. 2020 um 15:16 
Electricity is generated by moving magnets around coils of conductive materials, or vice versa.

Theoretically you could get a shock if you became the conductor and the magnet was really powerful. But no that other comic book stuff doesn't work.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Spud the Spud:

This is just speculation, but since we have the sun as a gravity source, and the black hole that orbits our sun as another, I think it's unlikely we'll ever have to encounter one of those.

You honestly believe the sun is our "gravity source"?
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Zylfrax791:
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This is just speculation, but since we have the sun as a gravity source, and the black hole that orbits our sun as another, I think it's unlikely we'll ever have to encounter one of those.

You honestly believe the sun is our "gravity source"? [/quote]

That is not what I said.
Myke 20. Feb. 2020 um 15:30 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von davidb11:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von northowlman:
Electricity is generated by moving magnets around coils of conductive materials, or vice versa.

Theoretically you could get a shock if you became the conductor and the magnet was really powerful. But no that other comic book stuff doesn't work.

We're not talking about electromagnets. We're talking about normal magnetic fields. I.e the ones created by machines like an MRI.
And yes, a strong enough magnetic field will destroy your body. It might rip your iron out with so much force it just rips your body apart to do so.

There were no electromagnets in my example, I guess you don't know what those are. And the iron in a human body isn't the same as the one we mine out of the ground.

Yes. Hey strong enough magnetic field. With factors that I listed earlier. It's not going to pull the iron out of your body. The magnetic field would affect the electrons in your cell structure.

Causing their rotations to collapse in addition to assuming new circular orbits. but if you're being exposed to something that creates that level of magnetic field you're probably already goo before the molecular structure of your body is ripped apart as well as every other form of matter in the area.

Any material can be affected by magnetic fields of a certain strength. By being ripped apart. Again since it's affecting the electrons.

Dear Lord I don't want to even start talking about gravity.
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Myke 20. Feb. 2020 um 15:47 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von davidb11:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von northowlman:

There were no electromagnets in my example, I guess you don't know what those are. And the iron in a human body isn't the same as the one we mine out of the ground.

Please read this thread. You are literally saying the exact same thing as people who have already discussed this.

The iron in your body can be ripped apart, along with the rest of you by a strong enough magnetic field.
And you specifically mentioned electricity generated by magnets, which makes no sense based on this discussion, since that is specifically related to electromagnets. Otherwise magnets cannot create electricity.
You need specific things to do that, not just ordinary magnets. You cannot create an electrical field with just a refrigerator magnet.

Why do you take authoritative positions on things you know absolutely zero about? It's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hilarious.

Firstly, an electromagnet is an object that becomes a magnet when given an electric current. Say a coil of copper wire with a battery hooked up to it.

Secondly, literally ALL electricity generators depend on magnets to generate their electricity.

That stuff is literally my field, get out of here boy.
Myke 20. Feb. 2020 um 15:51 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von davidb11:
I believe that magnets are your field about as much as I believe the Bubonic Plague was made by a wizard. Which is to say, not at all.

Now, yes, you are right about electromagnets. I admit I am wrong about that.
However, your arrogance is your downfall, boy.
And yes, compared to me, who is 37 years old, you are a boy.

You do not wish to start a holy on the Steam Forums against me. That's a bit excessive.

You need to just calm down, and be nicer to people.

I'm arrogant to a fault, I admit, but I admit when I am wrong.

You're wrong about everything all the time. It's time to get off the keyboard and hit the books, David.
Yep.

Magnets rotate inside a copper coil. Which generates magnetic fields which generate power.

Which I have incredibly simplified.

Every power station uses pretty much the same tech. I was thinking specifically about wind turbines which is why they are clean energy. But I don't know a lot about other power plants aside from the most basic of basic.

Although I did have a kit to build a power generator as a kid.

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what does trust the science fowchiupplegus say
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ magnets, how do they work???
In theory yeah it might be possible but naturaly formed magnetic rock formations and the like can't do it.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Goblin:
https://youtu.be/rFzR_FOTq2I


But nah, body iron is a nutrient. Not like the metal, so it's not like someone can pull it out of you.

age-restricted youtube vid . . . can't watch because need to login :steamthumbsdown:
I doubt a magnet exists with a strong enough *static* field to kill someone. The strongest could cause some serious health problems, sure, but not death, not unless you have metal implants in vulnerable spots. I have a titanium implant but at a location where I think it would just come out without killing me. I would scream a lot, but not die. I think. 🤔

Strong, rapidly alternating magnetic fields on the other hand... I've got a feeling they could mess you up big time. The pulsing would stimulate your entire nervous system and heat up internal and external tissues. I feel like I've seen a b-movie which played on this idea.
Adam 17. Juli 2024 um 2:10 
This thread was quite old before the recent post, so we're locking it to prevent confusion.
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