Which is better movie? Terminator 1 or 2? Alien or Aliens?

Florida Man 2018 年 6 月 13 日下午 12:59

引用自 Rumpelcrutchskin：
Why, it was great story how war screws people over, the PTSD, the controversial feelings people had over Vietnam War etc.

... ORRRRR I could just watch a vietnam documentary, get the same thing and actually learn something from it. The PBS documentary on My Lai was pretty good. There's plenty of other movies about those same things. Apocalypse Now comes off the top of my head. So does that movie about Chris Kyle, in many aspects, even though it's not about Vietnam.

引用自 Rumpelcrutchskin：
Watch it when you are few decades older and you understand what I meant. :hmm:

I understand the themes of the movie, numbnuts, but it falls flat when it's put in an action movie where nothing happens. Even Roger Ebert said that the same things had already been said a hundred times when the movie came out in '82, and while I'm always hesitant to bring up reviews from others, I have to agree with him.

Again, if you want a story about Vietnam ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up people, watch Platoon, Apocalypse Now ... literally any movie. They talk about Vietnam ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ people up while also having interesting things happen.

Setting aside the emotional bit they tossed in at the end of Rambo (again, which isn't even in the book - and the alternate ending of the movie was Rambo basically killing himself) what happens in the movie?
Some guy goes to a town with a comedically overacted ebil sherrif, he escapes, he acidentally kills a guy in the chopper, they ♥♥♥♥ around in the forrest, he crawls around in a cave a little bit and he blows up some empty buildings. Why even call it an action movie?

I guess the reason I have to wait a few decades is so that I can become senile and too old to like anything with action in it, right? :^)

最后由 Florida Man 编辑于; 2018 年 6 月 13 日下午 1:01

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Rumpelcrutchskin 2018 年 6 月 13 日下午 1:02

引用自 Florida Man：
引用自 Rumpelcrutchskin：
Why, it was great story how war screws people over, the PTSD, the controversial feelings people had over Vietnam War etc.
... ORRRRR I could just watch a vietnam documentary, get the same thing and actually learn something from it. The PBS documentary on My Lai was pretty good. There's plenty of other movies about those same things. Apocalypse Now comes off the top of my head. So does that movie about Chris Kyle, in many aspects, even though it's not about Vietnam.

引用自 Rumpelcrutchskin：
Watch it when you are few decades older and you understand what I meant.
I understand the themes of the movie, numbnuts, but it falls flat when it's put in an action movie where nothing happens. Even Roger Ebert said the same things had already been said a hundred times when the movie came out in '82, and while I'm always hesitant to bring up reviews from others, I have to agree with him.

Again, if you want a story about Vietnam ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up people, watch Platoon, Apocalypse Now ... literally any movie. And at least stuff happens in them. Setting aside the emotional bit they tossed in at the end (again, which isn't even in the book and the alternate ending of the movie was Rambo basically killing himself) what happens in the movie?
Some guy goes to a town with a comedically overacted ebil sherrif, he escapes, he acidentally kills a guy in the chopper, they ♥♥♥♥ around in the forrest, he crawls around in a cave a little bit and he blows up some empty buildings. Why even call it an action movie?

I guess I have to wait a few decades so that I can become senile and too old to like anything with action in it, right? :^)

At least you know how to use Google so there is hope yet.

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Florida Man 2018 年 6 月 13 日下午 1:06

引用自 Rumpelcrutchskin：
At least you know how to use Google so there is hope yet.

Google?
I watched First Blood years ago and watched most of it again a few months ago after I watched the video that compared the book to the movie. And why do you mention that I know how to use Google? Do you need me to teach you how to use it, gramps?

Again, if I want a PTSD lesson, getting it from an action movie is probably the wrong place ... like trying to learn about medical conditions from watching Grey's Anatomy.
You should try watching a documentary sometime instead. :^) There's some pretty good ones out there that talk about Vietnam, the way soldiers got screwed over and PTSD that are good and actually have educational value about those issues you mentioned.

最后由 Florida Man 编辑于; 2018 年 6 月 13 日下午 1:13

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Lieutenant Tea™ 2018 年 6 月 13 日下午 1:16

The sad thing is, I haven't seen any of those movies.

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harley 2018 年 6 月 13 日下午 1:17

引用自 Lieutenant Tea™：
The sad thing is, I haven't seen any of those movies.

I've only seen aliens and alien.

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Florida Man 2018 年 6 月 13 日下午 1:19

引用自 Lieutenant Tea™：
The sad thing is, I haven't seen any of those movies.

You should check them out. Even though I don't like T2 as much as T1, they're all really good movies.
And while you're checking out those classic 80's movies (okay so maybe Alien 1 was '79, but it's close enough), you should also watch "The Thing" (maybe not the best horror movie ever made, but it's still great in many aspects) and "Commando" (aka The Best Action Movie ever made)

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L1qu1dator 2018 年 6 月 13 日下午 1:25

Carpenter's "The Thing" is awesome. The only good horror there is for me, because it's more a sci-fi and the horror part is a side effect.

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Azza ☠ 2018 年 6 月 13 日下午 1:25

引用自 Lieutenant Tea™：
The sad thing is, I haven't seen any of those movies.

You haven't lived.

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Rumpelcrutchskin 2018 年 6 月 13 日下午 1:31

引用自 Florida Man：
引用自 Rumpelcrutchskin：
At least you know how to use Google so there is hope yet.
Google?
I watched First Blood years ago and watched most of it again a few months ago after I watched the video that compared the book to the movie. And why do you mention that I know how to use Google? Do you need me to teach you how to use it, gramps?

Again, if I want a PTSD lesson, getting it from an action movie is probably the wrong place ... like trying to learn about medical conditions from watching Grey's Anatomy.
You should try watching a documentary sometime instead. :^) There's some pretty good ones out there that talk about Vietnam, the way soldiers got screwed over and PTSD that are good and actually have educational value about those issues you mentioned.

Pointless to argue with 13 year old who only throws around ton of assumptions.

And btw if you want to see most accurate depiction of this subject in entertainment try China Beach tv-series instead.

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Florida Man 2018 年 6 月 13 日下午 1:32

引用自 L1qu1dator：
Carpenter's "The Thing" is awesome. The only good horror there is for me, because it's more a sci-fi and the horror part is a side effect.

I know everybody talks about the special effects, but they really are amazing.
All the CGI in the world will never be as fascinating as watching the sticky, bloody head of someone that fell off grow legs and eye stalks and turn into a spider-like creature, because even though it's just rubber and foam and ♥♥♥♥, it's REAL. (Doom 3 totally stole the upside down spider head from The Thing.)

I also like how you can't know what The Thing really looks like, because all the different versions are different, but similar enough that you can almost get an idea of the original creature from the different components of each monster.

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Florida Man 2018 年 6 月 13 日下午 1:36

引用自 Rumpelcrutchskin：
Pointless to argue with 13 year old who only throws around ton of assumptions.

Sounds to me like you don't have an agument back against my points, huh?
Also, the irony of you calling me 13 and then talk about throwing around assumptions is hilarious.

Again, I understood the point, but it was just haphazardly thrown in at the end (and it wasn't even the original ending) and overall it was an unsatisfying movie, especially as an action movie, which they sold it as.
Sorry if you're too old to understand that. ;)

最后由 Florida Man 编辑于; 2018 年 6 月 13 日下午 1:39

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Vince ✟ 2018 年 6 月 13 日下午 1:40

Aliens

Rambo tops both. My two 90s idols were Rambo and Indiana Jones. I wanted to be like them so much I did. I went Marine combat infantry, went to war, got out all ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up, and now I'm an anthropologist and history teacher. Sadly I never hung on under a one ton, nor have I ran from natives while looting treasures, but I'm pretty close

if you want a lesson on ptsd, just let me know. I fought it alone for a decade before getting help

最后由 Vince ✟ 编辑于; 2018 年 6 月 13 日下午 1:46

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Llamatron 2018 年 6 月 13 日下午 1:47

Best? I don't know about that. My favourite? Alien.

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Florida Man 2018 年 6 月 13 日下午 1:47

引用自 Vince：
Aliens

if you want a lesson on ptsd, just let me know. I fought it alone for a decade before getting help

I'm sad to hear you had to go through that, but I'm glad you were able to get some help ... even though I know "help" often isn't that helpful.
Best wishes, man

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sfnhltb 2018 年 6 月 14 日上午 9:32

T1 is significantly better than T2. Alien and Aliens are basically in two different genres to each other so I don't really think it is meaningful to compare them as one being better than the other, people will tend to prefer one based on their genre preferences rather than the quality of the respective movies.

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