Jobs that pay well with no degree?

[=WL= LazyLizard5780]

I want a well paying job but I don't want to go through years of study. I don't mean something to make me rich or whatever (I don't plan on getting married) I just want something to help me afford some kind of house (At the very least 23,000 dollars a year)

[LadyGaGa is hot]

引用自 CommieMouse：

引用自 LadyGaGa is hot：

its a good job my best mate is a graphic designer he designs web pages layouts ads magazines its a very artistic job if you are creative then i would recomend it but yeah you get people who spent a day on ms paint who think they are a fully qualified graphic desinger lol

And for jobs ina business you will be in concurence with people who have too the skill but spend time in a design school

what do you mean ?

[Chocolate Pie Kitten]

引用自 LadyGaGa is hot：

引用自 CommieMouse：

And for jobs ina business you will be in concurence with people who have too the skill but spend time in a design school

what do you mean ?

If you want to be designer in a business as a magazine , people who went it in design school will be hired first .

[=CrimsoN=]

引用自 CommieMouse：

Any way if i dont mistake to be an independant truck driver you need to own your own truck.
Thoses are not free, you then need to have worked before for a long time to be able to buy it.
the question is back what to do with a good salary without a degree.

I mean you can also just get a loan for it. I mean, personally, I'd opt to by a truck myself as well, but thats not exactly feasible when they cost upwards to $200,000 (aka the same cost as a small house). Hell, the APUs alone cost like $7,000 and thats just one part of the truck.

[Chocolate Pie Kitten]

引用自 Comrade✮Red：

引用自 CommieMouse：

Any way if i dont mistake to be an independant truck driver you need to own your own truck.
Thoses are not free, you then need to have worked before for a long time to be able to buy it.
the question is back what to do with a good salary without a degree.

I mean you can also just get a loan for it. I mean, personally, I'd opt to by a truck myself as well, but thats not exactly feasible when they cost upwards to $200,000 (aka the same cost as a small house). Hell, the APUs alone cost like $7,000 and thats just one part of the truck.

I dont know for the USA banks but in europe they will not give a loan to someone who cant garanty the loan

[=CrimsoN=]

引用自 CommieMouse：

引用自 Comrade✮Red：

I mean you can also just get a loan for it. I mean, personally, I'd opt to by a truck myself as well, but thats not exactly feasible when they cost upwards to $200,000 (aka the same cost as a small house). Hell, the APUs alone cost like $7,000 and thats just one part of the truck.

I dont know for the USA banks but in europe they will not give a loan to someone who cant garanty the loan

meh, it depends. In the U.S. you can pretty much get a loan for anything. But interest rate is another story. But its largely similar though in regards to income. You need a sensible amount of income for certain loans. Like, you can't get a million dollar loan making $15 an hour and all lol

[LadyGaGa is hot]

引用自 CommieMouse：

引用自 LadyGaGa is hot：

what do you mean ?

If you want to be designer in a business as a magazine , people who went it in design school will be hired first .

why would that be my friend works for magazine he got his degree from college

[Chocolate Pie Kitten]

引用自 LadyGaGa is hot：

引用自 CommieMouse：

If you want to be designer in a business as a magazine , people who went it in design school will be hired first .

why would that be my friend works for magazine he got his degree from college [/quote Your friend got his design degree in a school , it is what i was saying ( ok perhaps in a bad english) . But the OP want a job without going to college

[LadyGaGa is hot]

引用自 CommieMouse：

引用自 LadyGaGa is hot：

why would that be my friend works for magazine he got his degree from college

oh i was not taalkingabout the op i was just talking about my friend lol i said he should get into construction my mate gets £10 an hour without going to any college and not needing any qualifications

[Sir Dookface McFerretballs]

引用自 LadyGaGa is hot：

引用自 Sir Dookface McFerretballs：

It takes YEARS to get a degree ontop of years to get experience... You literally just pointed out that it takes longer than a trade, most trades need less than 2 years training, hell, HVAC only needs a few months. *laughs*

it takes an averege of 4 years to get a bachelors degree and dont know what your point is also trades usually need 4 years apprentie time i done 4 years doing landscaping most of the time was on the job getting the work experience and two days at college for the first year and last getting the formal qualification

setting up your own buisness succesfully in the trade will take you years becasue if you dont have the knowledge experience or resources or connections to just start a buisness as soon as you pass (if you try that you will fail any smart tradie will tell you that because even once you pass you will still make mistakes now and then on building sites and for other companies its okay but when you are the project manqger and main contracter and you ♥♥♥♥ up on someones house it stains your reputation and can have a knock on effect of "dont use this guy hes inexperienced" and you are naive if you think you can just pass your trade time and be a master at the craft ive been doing landscaping for fully qualified for 4 years and i just started taking on projects myself (for another company) last year but i still have my boss who oversees me but im compentent at doing managing and coordinating most builds myself things like full extensions conversions and complex projects i need my bosses experience but i say another few years i will; be ready to use my pick up and startr my own buisness iv got the contacts iv met alot people who can give me refrences and i know alot of tradies you get this from time put in you dont get this from being an apprentice and passing



I don't think you understand the difference between unskilled labor and skilled labor.

ANYONE can work at a fast food place because it is "unskilled", sure they can work hard, but ANYONE can do it so they are not going to get paid a lot because they are so easily replaceable with someone else that will do it cheaper... but not everyone can fix a car or diagnose a complex machinery problem, so they get paid more for having in-demand "skills".

i dont know what your point is again i never said ANYTHING about skilled or unskilled labour i was stating how it can be astressful job enviroment stress does not mean skilled you can be skilled but its not academic and you can have a skill but still eb a lazy worker ve known people who work in mcdonalds and they have told me its a very stressful enviroment and i believe them just look at the place in town centeres when busy they are alwyas on their feet so i take my hat of to them fair play to them at least they are working a jobs a job if you are one of those ♥♥♥♥♥ who thinks his job is uperior then someone elsess job is uperior to yours and so on its a childish way to think i see it alot when some tradies pick on young labourers i dont stand for it some labourers (including my labourer) are great hard working guys whoa re not stupid infact alot of them are smarter than some tradies there was an apprentice last year on a build we were doing a parking lot this guy was slagging my labourer telling him to stick to his sweeping and demeaning him (my labopurers a quiet guy but is very cool and down to earth and quitesmart guy just had some problems growing up) i told him you are no better you are just a working class fool you are the bottem of the barrel like me it got heated after that but in the end he was placed with another crew and i had to leave the job because he went to the site manager and said i was bullying him LOL



Again you show how little you know.

Independent truckers can make a ton of money, especially if they own their own rig (you can buy a nice used peterbuilt or mack for under $40,000usd).

When places need to ship millions of dollars of merchandise and don't have their own trucks, or need to ship odd loads, they usually put them up for a bid though contracts or websites like uship, and independent truckers can bid on those loads, usually for a precentage of what the load is worth and when and where it needs to go. I have 2 family members that do this, one with a big rig and the other with an HD pickup with a large trailer, it actually isn't unusual for them to make $10-20 grand in less than a month.

Hell, you want a source, it is easily searchable on a thing called the google, or you could just watch a few episodes of "shipping wars", since that should be about your speed.

shut up dude your just a cocky childish immature ♥♥♥♥♥ getting your snide insults in grow up its even funnier because you are wrong on everything you clearly dont know what you are talking about so im going to shut you down with facts no truck driver gets paid 10k a month no truck driver the skill is not worth that much money period

the average wage is around 40-70k per year maxing off around 100k in RARE occations of shortages but its a fallacy to say that would be the averege or normal amount but 20k a month over 200k per year hahahaha lmfao no way in hell as the other guy said only way a driver would get that would be if he was smuggling drugs

http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/09/news/economy/truck-driver-shortage/index.html

https://www.indeed.com/salaries/Truck-Driver-Salaries

https://www.zippia.com/advice/truck-driver-salary-by-state/

http://www.alltrucking.com/faq/first-year-truck-driver-salary/

https://www.ziprecruiter.com/s/long-haul-truck-driver-salary

TL;DR

https://www.indeed.com/q-Owner-Operator-$200,000-jobs.html

[Chocolate Pie Kitten]

引用自 LadyGaGa is hot：

引用自 CommieMouse：

oh i was not taalkingabout the op i was just talking about my friend lol i said he should get into construction my mate gets £10 an hour without going to any college and not needing any qualifications

Sorry my english can be very bad

[Ramonkey]

If you're a woman.. prostitution can pay very well

[LadyGaGa is hot]

引用自 Sir Dookface McFerretballs：

引用自 LadyGaGa is hot：

shut up dude your just a cocky childish immature ♥♥♥♥♥ getting your snide insults in grow up its even funnier because you are wrong on everything you clearly dont know what you are talking about so im going to shut you down with facts no truck driver gets paid 10k a month no truck driver the skill is not worth that much money period

the average wage is around 40-70k per year maxing off around 100k in RARE occations of shortages but its a fallacy to say that would be the averege or normal amount but 20k a month over 200k per year hahahaha lmfao no way in hell as the other guy said only way a driver would get that would be if he was smuggling drugs

http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/09/news/economy/truck-driver-shortage/index.html

https://www.indeed.com/salaries/Truck-Driver-Salaries

https://www.zippia.com/advice/truck-driver-salary-by-state/

http://www.alltrucking.com/faq/first-year-truck-driver-salary/

https://www.ziprecruiter.com/s/long-haul-truck-driver-salary

TL;DR

https://www.indeed.com/q-Owner-Operator-$200,000-jobs.html

this is not accurate





Average "gross" pay annually = $200,000

this is not the after expenses salary


the after costs take home pay is tops 80k like i said


https://haulhound.com/blog/owner-operator-driver-pay/

https://www.overdriveonline.com/why-be-an-owner-operator/

https://www.truckdriverssalary.com/owner-operator-salary/

https://www.thetruckersreport.com/infographics/cost-of-trucking/

https://www.fueloyal.com/the-real-trucking-expenses-of-an-owner-operator/

[Sir Dookface McFerretballs]

引用自 LadyGaGa is hot：

引用自 Sir Dookface McFerretballs：

TL;DR

https://www.indeed.com/q-Owner-Operator-$200,000-jobs.html

this is not accurate





Average "gross" pay annually = $200,000

this is not the after expenses salary


the after costs take home pay is tops 80k like i said


https://haulhound.com/blog/owner-operator-driver-pay/

https://www.overdriveonline.com/why-be-an-owner-operator/

https://www.truckdriverssalary.com/owner-operator-salary/

https://www.thetruckersreport.com/infographics/cost-of-trucking/

https://www.fueloyal.com/the-real-trucking-expenses-of-an-owner-operator/

You can believe whatever you want to believe and we can go back and forth over this ad infinitum.

All I'm pointing out is that some independent truckers can make serious money when you said "no truck driver gets paid 10k a month no truck driver the skill is not worth that much money period".

I prove you wrong, learn to take it like a champ.

At this point I'm just going to agree to disagree with you, as there is plenty of proof out there of truckers making over $120,000 a year AFTER expenses and taxes.

[LadyGaGa is hot]

引用自 Sir Dookface McFerretballs：

引用自 LadyGaGa is hot：

this is not accurate





Average "gross" pay annually = $200,000

this is not the after expenses salary


the after costs take home pay is tops 80k like i said


https://haulhound.com/blog/owner-operator-driver-pay/

https://www.overdriveonline.com/why-be-an-owner-operator/

https://www.truckdriverssalary.com/owner-operator-salary/

https://www.thetruckersreport.com/infographics/cost-of-trucking/

https://www.fueloyal.com/the-real-trucking-expenses-of-an-owner-operator/

You can believe whatever you want to believe and we can go back and forth over this ad infinitum.

All I'm pointing out is that some independent truckers can make serious money when you said "no truck driver gets paid 10k a month no truck driver the skill is not worth that much money period".

I prove you wrong, learn to take it like a champ.

At this point I'm just going to agree to disagree with you, as there is plenty of proof out there of truckers making over $120,000 a year AFTER expenses and taxes.

you have not proved anything the sources from actual trucking websites and forums i linked you that after expenses the salary is 40-60k per year with the highest being arounf 80-90k on rare one off ocations so you are talking ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

im not beliving what i want im beliving what the people who work in the buisness are telling me just because you say im wrong does not mean i am all you provided as evidence was an advertisement that showed the fross pay before expenses and taxes i linked websites (truck websites and forums from actual truckers and experts) that tell you the after expenses and taxes numbers which i have given you its you that needs to learn to take it like a champ because you are obviously in the wrong i have evidence you dont

[The Griffinator]

引用自 LadyGaGa is hot：

引用自 Sir Dookface McFerretballs：

You can believe whatever you want to believe and we can go back and forth over this ad infinitum.

All I'm pointing out is that some independent truckers can make serious money when you said "no truck driver gets paid 10k a month no truck driver the skill is not worth that much money period".

I prove you wrong, learn to take it like a champ.

At this point I'm just going to agree to disagree with you, as there is plenty of proof out there of truckers making over $120,000 a year AFTER expenses and taxes.

you have not proved anything the sources from actual trucking websites and forums i linked you that after expenses the salary is 40-60k per year with the highest being arounf 80-90k on rare one off ocations so you are talking ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

im not beliving what i want im beliving what the people who work in the buisness are telling me just because you say im wrong does not mean i am all you provided as evidence was an advertisement that showed the fross pay before expenses and taxes i linked websites (truck websites and forums from actual truckers and experts) that tell you the after expenses and taxes numbers which i have given you its you that needs to learn to take it like a champ because you are obviously in the wrong i have evidence you dont

It's alright, we don't need to argue.

Let's allow the independent truckers such as those I hang around and see often make their 200k+ a year, and your sources of company drivers tell you about their 40k+ a year.

Truck drivers wouldn't pay 150k for a brand new dump truck if they only made 40k a year. Many buy used, but for a good quad it can be about 80-90k.

You look things up online, we know actual workers. There's a difference. I know company men and independent truckers.