Being a lawyer Vs programmer

[Aeonian]

So, I have a natural talent in law, arguing, logic, I can convince people into anything. I have an urge to argue with people, and I could become a political leader one day, I also have a talent in writing controversial articles.
But I found that too easy as it doesn't really take any effort for me so I wouldn't be proud of myself doing something that is natural and easy.(what's so difficult about learning laws? Being a lawyer/accountant in Russia means being stupid)
I also have talent in mathematics but it was also too easy for me, maths is nothing special, a few rules, dozens of formulas, that's it.
That's why I chose programming.
Dozens of languages, confusing as hell, some weird unnatural crap, very complex and people think you are a God. Everyone can become a lawyer, I mean you just need to remember real world laws and have some talent in putting arguments together.
Or physics - it's much easier rhan programming, just learn a few formulas and that's it.
But programming... It's not about real world, it's not about math, it's just some weird sht that somehow abstractly connected to each other that no sane person would ever understand. You can easily understand physics or math basics, but to learn programming basics, or at least to understand wtf is this you need months.

[Satoru]

Note if you think 'mathematics is easy' you are seriously deluding yourself. Please go and 'try' to read the official proof to Fermat's Last Theorem, which requires you to know 3 different areas of mathematics and have nearly a decades depth worth of knowledge in each of them .

If you think 'Physics is easy" then by all means please tell us how Gravity actually works. Because we don't actually understand gravity fully. If you have an actual unified formula for gravity and relativity there's a Nobel Prize waiting for you.

[cinedine]

Цитата допису Darkness:

But programming... It's not about real world, it's not about math, it's just some weird sht that somehow abstractly connected to each other that no sane person would ever understand.

If that is what you think about programming, I'm afraid you've chosen the wrong job.
Programming requires structured thinking, logic and a basic understanding of languages. And it's a lot about maths. As a matter of fact maths is exactly why most students fail the courses. "Boolean algebra" is pure maths for example.

[僕の名前 (仮)]

School math: do a calculator's job for already known formula.

Real life math: invent new formula to get result you want... or even invent formula you dont even know what result will be.

Programmers need math too, especially if it's graphics or animation.

Physics is "DLC" for math.

[EASY PETE]

i hate maths

[chiefputsilao✖️ping]

a programmer always asks a lawyer on how to get more money from illegal clients.
... so a lawyer > programmer

[Kenny]

become next Putin

[ナルゴ]

Computer Science and IT have become the new meme degrees with hoardes of fresh grads coming out of uni with unhireable skills, thinking they're geniuses & going to make six figures right off the bat for knowing how to make a 'hello world' page on PHP using a default Bootrap template they copy-pasted off the internet.

Unless you're self-taught and already programming to solve problems on your free time, then don't bother wasting time in school. There are mountains of resources about programming on the internet, for free, right now. No excuse to not already be programming if you really want to.

Employers want competent.
Not "trainable", not "almost good enough", not "maybe, but not on my team.", and certainly not a young hotshot touting his degree while unable to actually complete a single basic program from start to finish.

[76109108007942031]

/r/IAmVerySmart

[uFrost]

Цитата допису cinedine:

If that is what you think about programming, I'm afraid you've chosen the wrong job.
Programming requires structured thinking, logic and a basic understanding of languages. And it's a lot about maths. As a matter of fact maths is exactly why most students fail the courses. "Boolean algebra" is pure maths for example.

Not really true, all depends on what language you're using and what type of a developer you are.

[tiseno100]

Цитата допису Darkness:

But programming... It's not about real world, it's not about math, it's just some weird sht that somehow abstractly connected to each other that no sane person would ever understand. You can easily understand physics or math basics, but to learn programming basics, or at least to understand wtf is this you need months.

Programming requires knowledge, maths and alot of logic. See assembler, there are ppl who can write on that language

[Radene]

Pride cometh before a fall.

Your attitude towards math and physics says a lot about stuff...

[Commander Makara]

Anyone who thinks "mathematics" or "physics" ARE easy truly does not understand the essence of science.

You seem to be confusing the work of scientists and mathematicians with the work of engineers etc. in applying fruits of the scientist and mathematicians' labours.

Using/memorising a few rules and formulae are tools of these trades, not the job itself.

The "challenge" within Physics is to identify something (such as observation in nature) and to then provide a reliable model for which results are in agreement. This is difficult, not easy.
What's easy is following the presentation of such models, the relationships they identify or the implicaitons thereof after they have been ascertained - and in rearranging those relations to hopefully generate further hypothesis.

The challenge within mathematics is in identifying proofs to generalised solutions. This is profoundly difficult, especially given the strangeloops - and in fact, may even be quite impossible given Gödel's incompleteness. What's easy is using the relationships already painstakingly identified and applying these understood, proven areas within application.

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In my experience, programming is essentially mathematics. The language (as in terminology, not programming langauge) and process involved is derived from mathematics of hundreds of years ago.

In mathematics, you would have arguments passed to a function and that function might involve some transformations or logic, where operations and values are given identifying symbols
This is the essence of much programming.

With the advent of computer/information technology, original abstract mathematical concepts (a la Shannon, Hilbert, Mascheroni or Boltzmann etc.) are now granted a more 'real' application. This is something that has also occured frequently within physical science.

[King Narwhal]

What kind of programming are you doing where there's no math?

Programming is literally made of math and logic.

[IShowFinance]

200 IQ

[Ëvïlnïck8 ゴゴゴ]

I think you underrestimating being an good lawyer. Sure, all it takes to be an lawyer is the time and energy to remember all the laws and such. But thats the same with programming. Anyone can become an programmer if he / she spends enough time and dedication to learning how it all works. The thing now if you can actuely use it well. I could become an lawyer if i wanted. But i serieusly wouldnt be able to actuely do the job well.
Same with programming. I can become if i wanted to but i would not be able to do the job well.