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Bunger With Bungus 2018 年 1 月 17 日 下午 2:53
Robot Cache, Will Steam Allow?
So I just saw the announcment of "Robot Cache" and wonder if steam is going to allow this for steam accounts.

If you're unsure what I'm talking about a video explaning it is here at 3:45 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=487NjYOOPNw

I ask this because in the past I had brought up a similar question and idea and was accosted heavily by the community stating that such a thing could not work.

So im curious to see if anyone else is happy that this exists, if it could work, and if steam will let us use our accounts to sell back our unwanted games since this could impact steam greatly in the time to come.
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Zekiran 2018 年 1 月 17 日 下午 3:00 
No.
HLCinSC 2018 年 1 月 17 日 下午 3:03 
I believe its fate will be almost entirely decided by devs and pubs. If they can convince them to buy into such a system it could work, but that will be hard to do as no major digital service currently embraces anything close to such a system.
cinedine 2018 年 1 月 17 日 下午 3:07 
Yeah, GreenManGaming tried it back in 2010.
Bunger With Bungus 2018 年 1 月 17 日 下午 3:16 
引用自 CharlestONE
no major digital service currently embraces anything close to such a system.

That's what I think is holding pc gaming back, while steam has a lot of users there might still be some that have yet to commit or even get into steam and pc gaming because of the fact digital sales are un-refundable, this can give us that system that some console users with physical copies to enjoy, being able to sell their unplayed games

Also if this does work consoles might be pushed into adding a similar system for digital purchases in order not to lose console players; The fact is, that for too long a time there have been no refunds in the digital world aside from Amazon and the like, but this could help expand digital gaming as a whole.
cSg|mc-Hotsauce 2018 年 1 月 17 日 下午 3:23 
We already have this thread...

http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/12/1693785035804444512/

Nothing to do with Steam.

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HLCinSC 2018 年 1 月 17 日 下午 3:24 
引用自 Argonian Brony
引用自 CharlestONE
no major digital service currently embraces anything close to such a system.

That's what I think is holding pc gaming back, while steam has a lot of users there might still be some that have yet to commit or even get into steam and pc gaming because of the fact digital sales are un-refundable, this can give us that system that some console users with physical copies to enjoy, being able to sell their unplayed games

Also if this does work consoles might be pushed into adding a similar system for digital purchases in order not to lose console players; The fact is, that for too long a time there have been no refunds in the digital world aside from Amazon and the like, but this could help expand digital gaming as a whole.
Steam does offer refunds.
http://store.steampowered.com/steam_refunds/
最后由 HLCinSC 编辑于; 2018 年 1 月 17 日 下午 3:25
cinedine 2018 年 1 月 17 日 下午 3:27 
引用自 Argonian Brony
this can give us that system that some console users with physical copies to enjoy, being able to sell their unplayed games

The whole used game market brought us such fancy things as online passes and greatly accelerated the whole secondary monitezation. And stuff like always-online DRM. Or all the love that Valve got for requiring an online activation for a single player game when internet wasn't that common. Or limited activation.
The reason Steam isn't that intrusive of a DRM is because games are account bound.
Bunger With Bungus 2018 年 1 月 17 日 下午 3:35 
引用自 CharlestONE
引用自 Argonian Brony

That's what I think is holding pc gaming back, while steam has a lot of users there might still be some that have yet to commit or even get into steam and pc gaming because of the fact digital sales are un-refundable, this can give us that system that some console users with physical copies to enjoy, being able to sell their unplayed games

Also if this does work consoles might be pushed into adding a similar system for digital purchases in order not to lose console players; The fact is, that for too long a time there have been no refunds in the digital world aside from Amazon and the like, but this could help expand digital gaming as a whole.
Steam does offer refunds.
http://store.steampowered.com/steam_refunds/

There was a time before these refunds, There are some people stuck with games that they could not have refunded before because this system was not implemented at the time.

In addition to the fact that they can only be refunded before 2 weeks or hours, after that time, you're stuck with the game. This makes it a risk free enviornment, an example of this would be that a game has a strong 2 hr opening but poor follow up for them, or that someone had purchased a game but could not play it for 2 weeks and when he/she was able to they found that it was not good to the idea they had about it and could not refund it, I would've added "Early Access" in the mix but that should be obvious enough that it dident need one.
Start_Running 2018 年 1 月 17 日 下午 3:40 
引用自 Argonian Brony
引用自 CharlestONE
no major digital service currently embraces anything close to such a system.

That's what I think is holding pc gaming back, while steam has a lot of users there might still be some that have yet to commit or even get into steam and pc gaming because of the fact digital sales are un-refundable, this can give us that system that some console users with physical copies to enjoy, being able to sell their unplayed games
Yeah that's probably what allows PC gaming to advance and why there fewer and fewer console exclusives each generation. Steam has enough sales that even cheapskates can find something in their price point and honestly, no digital store benefits from resale, neither do the publishers.

Also if this does work consoles might be pushed into adding a similar system for digital purchases in order not to lose console players; The fact is, that for too long a time there have been no refunds in the digital world aside from Amazon and the like, but this could help expand digital gaming as a whole.

Unlikely. As said. there's no benefit for them. What's the point of gaining players if you lose sales? Well unless you're going to make up the difference with MTX and lootcrates.
cSg|mc-Hotsauce 2018 年 1 月 17 日 下午 3:47 
And here we are in Off-Topic. Not merged but in the correct forum.

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Bunger With Bungus 2018 年 1 月 17 日 下午 3:49 
引用自 Start_Running
引用自 Argonian Brony

That's what I think is holding pc gaming back, while steam has a lot of users there might still be some that have yet to commit or even get into steam and pc gaming because of the fact digital sales are un-refundable, this can give us that system that some console users with physical copies to enjoy, being able to sell their unplayed games
Yeah that's probably what allows PC gaming to advance and why there fewer and fewer console exclusives each generation. Steam has enough sales that even cheapskates can find something in their price point and honestly, no digital store benefits from resale, neither do the publishers.

Also if this does work consoles might be pushed into adding a similar system for digital purchases in order not to lose console players; The fact is, that for too long a time there have been no refunds in the digital world aside from Amazon and the like, but this could help expand digital gaming as a whole.

Unlikely. As said. there's no benefit for them. What's the point of gaining players if you lose sales? Well unless you're going to make up the difference with MTX and lootcrates.

The thing is, I'm not asking for a full refund here, and thats what "Robot Cache" offers. I know I'm not going to get 60$ back if I trade in a game but I would still be glad to get 25$-15$ from selling it back to invest into another game that I wanted and that I would possibly still play. They did say that 75% of resale goes back to developers, and Im fine with that.
cSg|mc-Hotsauce 2018 年 1 月 17 日 下午 3:50 
Valve won't byte on it. It uses crypto-currency. We all know Valve's stance on that right now.

And yes, I know I typed byte.

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Bunger With Bungus 2018 年 1 月 17 日 下午 3:50 
引用自 cSg|mc-Hotsauce
And here we are in Off-Topic. Not merged but in the correct forum.

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Thats fine, I was unsure of where to post it, Just thought that this could affect steam in some way so I thought it should be put there.
cSg|mc-Hotsauce 2018 年 1 月 17 日 下午 3:52 
引用自 Argonian Brony
引用自 cSg|mc-Hotsauce
And here we are in Off-Topic. Not merged but in the correct forum.

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Thats fine, I was unsure of where to post it, Just thought that this could affect steam in some way so I thought it should be put there.

Nope. Valve has their own thing going for them.

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