Is legend of Zelda Ocarina of time overrated ?

[ian]

Do you think that oot is an overrated game ?

[Valfossa]

Paradox の投稿を引用：

A lot of people will say it's the best game ever purely on nostalga alone. It's a great game but it's not aging well.

I agree. But the 3DS version does help swat out some of the game's ageing faults. (The Water Temple especially.)

[ian]

B l u e b e r r y P o p t a r t の投稿を引用：

Sashie の投稿を引用：

no, It doesn't need mods or anything to be a top tier game.

Agree, it's still one of the highest rated games of all time even still today.

It's the highest rated because it only has like 25 reviews on GR and metacritc other games like the last of us gta4 the wicher 3 have over 80 and are subject to a much broader range of opinions than oot.

[King Of Nothing]

To understand the reason why many consider it the best game ever you must have lived in the period it came out. Otherwise, it would be difficult.

[ian]

If we are talking about innovation I would argue that Deus ex and half life were the most innovate games of their time, and in terms of importance games like MGS revitalised an entire genre of games you could argue that games like splinter cell wouldn't even exist without MGS.

[Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍]

I am going to say yes. Unweildy controls, crap camera, broke as hell lock on system, huge sections of the game inane. People really seem to have a thing for it. I never did. I favored A Link to the Past and Windwaker.

[Mossy Snake]

ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍 の投稿を引用：

I am going to say yes. Unweildy controls, crap camera, broke as hell lock on system, huge sections of the game inane. People really seem to have a thing for it. I never did. I favored A Link to the Past and Windwaker.

It's only deemed amazing because a relatively small number of people reviewed it and because of the year it came out in. It's a mediocre game at best.

[Rio]

You can't get on that zelda for its camera, all the n64 games had bad camera.

[Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍]

MossyRathalos の投稿を引用：

ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍 の投稿を引用：

I am going to say yes. Unweildy controls, crap camera, broke as hell lock on system, huge sections of the game inane. People really seem to have a thing for it. I never did. I favored A Link to the Past and Windwaker.

It's only deemed amazing because a relatively small number of people reviewed it and because of the year it came out in. It's a mediocre game at best.

98 way the year that the N64 got it's two best games, Banjo Kazooie and Rogue Squadron. You almost never hear people wax nostalgic over those two.

[Rio]

ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍 の投稿を引用：

MossyRathalos の投稿を引用：

It's only deemed amazing because a relatively small number of people reviewed it and because of the year it came out in. It's a mediocre game at best.

98 way the year that the N64 got it's two best games, Banjo Kazooie and Rogue Squadron. You almost never hear people wax nostalgic over those two.

Are you kinding? Banjo Kazooie is very beloved and so many people were not happy when nuts and bolts came. Johntron acted like it was the scourge of the earth.

Banjo was like one of the only n64 games I ever bought the guildbook for. Even that was pretty and full of grunty lines.

[Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍]

Sashie の投稿を引用：

Are you kinding? Banjo Kazooie is very beloved and so many people were not happy when nuts and bolts came. Johntron acted like it was the scourge of the earth.

Banjo was like one of the only n64 games I ever bought the guildbook for. Even that was pretty and full of grunty lines.

We must revolve in different circles then, as I never do. Pretty sure this is one of the first times I have seen the game ever even brought up here. Also...

Sashie の投稿を引用：

You can't get on that zelda for its camera, all the n64 games had bad camera.

... the game we are discussing didn't. Neither did Rogue Squadron. Hell, Nintendo even did better with Super Mario 64's camera. It had a lot to do with how the implemented it with the closed in environments. Combine that with the wacked out lock on system, and half the games mechanics re broken.

[Zefar]

ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍 の投稿を引用：

I am going to say yes. Unweildy controls, crap camera, broke as hell lock on system, huge sections of the game inane. People really seem to have a thing for it. I never did. I favored A Link to the Past and Windwaker.

So what's wrong with the controls? You control Link just perfectly fine and all of the actions are quick and accurate.
It's on the same quality as Mario N64. Controls are not an issue here, skill might have something to do with it if you where so bad at it.

Camera was a none issue and it was quite responsive too. Most of the time the camera was behind you.

Lock on was just fine as well and it worked perfectly.

For it's time Zelda OoT was a masterpiece. Right now it might be able to keep up with the graphical part but the overall controls and feel of the game are still far above most other games.
It's hard to find other action adventure games with as tight controls as Zelda.

[Mossy Snake]

Zefar の投稿を引用：

ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍 の投稿を引用：

I am going to say yes. Unweildy controls, crap camera, broke as hell lock on system, huge sections of the game inane. People really seem to have a thing for it. I never did. I favored A Link to the Past and Windwaker.

So what's wrong with the controls? You control Link just perfectly fine and all of the actions are quick and accurate.
It's on the same quality as Mario N64. Controls are not an issue here, skill might have something to do with it if you where so bad at it.

Camera was a none issue and it was quite responsive too. Most of the time the camera was behind you.

Lock on was just fine as well and it worked perfectly.

For it's time Zelda OoT was a masterpiece. Right now it might be able to keep up with the graphical part but the overall controls and feel of the game are still far above most other games.
It's hard to find other action adventure games with as tight controls as Zelda.

I own both it and MM: Gold Edition on my N64, and I completely disagree. The camera never moves where you want it to, the controls suck (mainly the fault of the controller itself. I'm 100% sure the 3Ds remakes fix this), and lock-on would always make the camera have a seizure if you tried to look at anything even a foot above you (again, probably fixed in the remakes). Link moves fine, but the controls and the camera are pretty bad.

The game itself was also extremely linear despite the relatively large world, and there were huge sections of the game that weren't interesting or fun (Water Temple, Fire Temple, Forest Spirit temple that I forgot the exact name of, etc). It's a mediocre game in my opinion.

Please don't ban me for disagreeing mod. I know you're above that, but still

[B l u e b e r r y P o p t a r t]

Zefar の投稿を引用：

ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍 の投稿を引用：

I am going to say yes. Unweildy controls, crap camera, broke as hell lock on system, huge sections of the game inane. People really seem to have a thing for it. I never did. I favored A Link to the Past and Windwaker.

So what's wrong with the controls? You control Link just perfectly fine and all of the actions are quick and accurate.
It's on the same quality as Mario N64. Controls are not an issue here, skill might have something to do with it if you where so bad at it.

Camera was a none issue and it was quite responsive too. Most of the time the camera was behind you.

Lock on was just fine as well and it worked perfectly.

For it's time Zelda OoT was a masterpiece. Right now it might be able to keep up with the graphical part but the overall controls and feel of the game are still far above most other games.
It's hard to find other action adventure games with as tight controls as Zelda.

Couldn't agree more, I had no issues with the controls or camera and lock-on was good too, as I never had an issue killing monster or reflecting stuff back at them.

[Zefar]

MossyRathalos の投稿を引用：

I own both it and MM: Gold Edition on my N64, and I completely disagree. The camera never moves where you want it to, the controls suck (mainly the fault of the controller itself. I'm 100% sure the 3Ds remakes fix this), and lock-on would always make the camera have a seizure if you tried to look at anything even a foot above you (again, probably fixed in the remakes). Link moves fine, but the controls and the camera are pretty bad.

The control issue sounds more like a skill issue. I and my friends had no problem with the controls when playing the game.Even if the N64 gamepad was a bit weird it just fit perfectly into your hands.

Link doesn't do stuff you don't want him to do. So if you had issues controlling him you where just bad.

As for the camera. In caves with bats it could have an issue but that was never a big issue that got you killed. Against any normal enemy it would handle stuff just fine. Seeing how you also centered the camera with the Z button you could align any time you wanted.

I played the original too and not the remastered versions.

[Mossy Snake]

Zefar の投稿を引用：

MossyRathalos の投稿を引用：

I own both it and MM: Gold Edition on my N64, and I completely disagree. The camera never moves where you want it to, the controls suck (mainly the fault of the controller itself. I'm 100% sure the 3Ds remakes fix this), and lock-on would always make the camera have a seizure if you tried to look at anything even a foot above you (again, probably fixed in the remakes). Link moves fine, but the controls and the camera are pretty bad.

The control issue sounds more like a skill issue. I and my friends had no problem with the controls when playing the game.Even if the N64 gamepad was a bit weird it just fit perfectly into your hands.

Link doesn't do stuff you don't want him to do. So if you had issues controlling him you where just bad.

The N64 controller always felt rough and awkward to use. It never perfectly fit in my hands, and it constantly feels like I have to readjust my grip just to hit multiple buttons at once, and it required you to to change your grip to hit the buttons on the left side.

While the camera was centerable, it would often go ham when trying to target fast-moving targets like Volvaga (Can't spell it's name) or like you said, the bats. It would also do the typical N64-camera thing where it would go through some walls and get caught on others, which could get really obnoxious, especially in the Dodongo cavern.

Also I never said Link himself controlled poorly, I actually said the opposite:

MossyRathalos の投稿を引用：

Link moves fine,