Your Origin experience?

[Feudal]

Trying to install some games on Origin and it's completely different from Steam. While on Steam, it says the download will be done with 20GB in 30 minutes, it's done in 5. On Origin, if the download says it'll be done in 1 hour, you'd best go on vacation because it won't be done till a few hours after your arrival back from vacation. It's so mindnumbingly slow.

First Origin says "1 hour, 6mb/s" 1 hour later it says "1 hour, 2mb/s" what ♥♥♥♥ this service is.

Update, since I started getting pissed off about it Origin decided to bump my speed back to 4.5mb/s Whoora

[Zubenelgenubi]

My only issue is that it doesn't have the huge variety of games Steam does.

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EA claim that through their Origin service you can get games to "OWN" (The service is named 'On The House')
However, in practice these are merely licensed for use, the ownership is for the license to play the products, not the game itself since the rights to the content still remain with EA.

[Jej]

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EA claim that through their Origin service you can get games to "OWN" (The service is named 'On The House')
However, in practice these are merely licensed for use, the ownership is for the license to play the products, not the game itself since the rights to the content still remain with EA.

EDIT: That is the case for all games distribution clients. You don't actually OWN your Steam/uPlay/BattleNet games. You only own licenses.

The same applies to non-game software. You don't OWN Microsoft Office, for example.

[Zubenelgenubi]

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EA claim that through their Origin service you can get games to "OWN" (The service is named 'On The House')
However, in practice these are merely licensed for use, the ownership is for the license to play the products, not the game itself since the rights to the content still remain with EA.

Same with Steam.

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Jej eredeti hozzászólása:

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EA claim that rthrough their Origin service you can get games to OWN.
However, in paractice these are merely licensed for use, there is NO OWNERSHIimplied since the rights to the content still remain with EA.

That can be said about any other games distribution client, not just EA's.

EA are specifically claiming that you can get games to OWN and specify there a<re no catches to their claims.

"There isn't one - seriously! With On the House, you can score full games and expansions for free, no asterisks in sight."
"you're getting the full versions of the games or expansions"
"Once you download anything from On the House, it's yours to keep."

However, this is a restriction, since yours to keep mweans it is not YOURS. If it were, you could keep it, sell it, give it away etc.

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Zubenelgenubi eredeti hozzászólása:

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EA claim that through their Origin service you can get games to "OWN" (The service is named 'On The House')
However, in practice these are merely licensed for use, the ownership is for the license to play the products, not the game itself since the rights to the content still remain with EA.

Same with Steam.

At no point do Valve ever claim you own anyhting. In fact they particularly reference thaty trhere are NO RIGHTS OF OWNERSHIP to any licensed content.

[Jej]

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Jej eredeti hozzászólása:

That can be said about any other games distribution client, not just EA's.

EA are specifically claiming that you can get games to OWN and specify there a<re no catches to their claims.

"There isn't one - seriously! With On the House, you can score full games and expansions for free, no asterisks in sight."
"you're getting the full versions of the games or expansions"
"Once you download anything from On the House, it's yours to keep."

However, this is a restriction, since yours to keep mweans it is not YOURS. If it were, you could keep it, sell it, give it away etc.

It's probably mentioned in the EULA or something. The average Joe wouldn't know the difference between a license and an owned game so they probably simplified it.

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It seems you are misunderstanding my point.

I am not claiming there is a problem with the fact that one purchases licenses for softwarte (as is generally accepted) BUT VERY SPECIFICALLY (and uniquely to EA) They are here claiming that YOU DO ACTUALLY "OWN" the product. This is false.

Neither Micorosft nor Valve nor ny other providers ever make such claims.

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Jej eredeti hozzászólása:

The average Joe wouldn't know the difference between a license and an owned game so they probably simplified it.

Absoultely. Doeesn'r in a ny way make it right for them to do so, thougn.

[Zubenelgenubi]

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At no point do Valve ever claim you own anyhting. In fact they particularly reference thaty trhere are NO RIGHTS OF OWNERSHIP to any licensed content.

We buy stuff all the time on Steam and that also implies ownership, does it not?

It's all really just legal nitpicking.

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Zubenelgenubi eredeti hozzászólása:

We buy stuff all the time on Steam and that also implies ownership, does it not?

No. Again, you are conflating two entiredifferent things.

The purchase of licenses is eprfectly normal, accepted and well udnerstood (though some idiots still believe they buy games and have rights of ownership etc.) - however, it is always clear (look at SSA tc.) that the payments are for activating the license to the account etc. and there is no right of ownership.

This is nothing to do with my point.

IN THE CASE OF EA's "On The House" they (EA) SPECIFICALLY STATE that the "games are yours to keep" and that you "own" the "games".

Yes it's legal nitpicking, so what?

[Spawn of Totoro]

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Jej eredeti hozzászólása:

That can be said about any other games distribution client, not just EA's.

EA are specifically claiming that you can get games to OWN and specify there a<re no catches to their claims.

"There isn't one - seriously! With On the House, you can score full games and expansions for free, no asterisks in sight."
"you're getting the full versions of the games or expansions"
"Once you download anything from On the House, it's yours to keep."

However, this is a restriction, since yours to keep mweans it is not YOURS. If it were, you could keep it, sell it, give it away etc.

That means it is not a demo or a limited trial, but a game the user can play as long as he/she wants and download just as if it were a prchased game.

It does not imply ownership of the IP or game.

I see nothing on the On the House page to imply such ownership either.

https://www.origin.com/usa/en-us/store/free-games/on-the-house

And the part at the bottom even shows this:

INTERNET CONNECTION, EA ACCOUNT,

ACCEPTANCE OF ORIGIN END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT (EULA)

AND INSTALLATION OF THE ORIGIN CLIENT SOFTWARE (WWW.ORIGIN.COM/ABOUT) REQUIRED TO PLAY. ACCEPTANCE OF PRODUCT EULA MAY BE REQUIRED TO PLAY. YOU MUST BE 13+ TO ACCESS ONLINE FEATURES. EA PRIVACY AND COOKIE POLICY AND TERMS OF SERVICE CAN BE FOUND AT WWW.EA.COM. IF APPLICABLE, EULAS AND ADDITIONAL DISCLOSURES CAN BE FOUND AT WWW.EA.COM/1/PRODUCT-EULAS. ONLINE FEATURES ARE NOT GUARANTEED. EA MAY RETIRE ONLINE FEATURES AFTER 30 DAYS NOTICE POSTED ON WWW.EA.COM/1/SERVICE-UPDATES.

[Feudal]

dasdasdasd eredeti hozzászólása:

fast and better cuz you can play while its downloading

I mean, you can do that on Steam too? Only difference is you can't play multiplayer as well without getting 200ping because, well. Steam actually uses your internet to download. But you can throttle that too.

[Flaif]

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Eh. My downloads have always been much faster on Origin compared to Steam. And I own over 800 games on here last time I checked.

I also like their support.

It was a very standard experience all around, games worked when I opened them, worked like most DRM game clients worked.

Whaa...What? There are 800 games on origin?

[Flaif]

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Explosion Hugger eredeti hozzászólása:

Eh. My downloads have always been much faster on Origin compared to Steam. And I own over 800 games on here last time I checked.

I also like their support.

It was a very standard experience all around, games worked when I opened them, worked like most DRM game clients worked.

Whaa...What? There are 800 games on origin?

what the heck, thats isnt a link, go home steam ur drunk