intel HD 4000 laptop graphics card

[Xaccus]

I have heard everyone talk about how this is basically the bane of a gamers existence an trying to play any game on it will explode your computer more or less :P Personally though since I all have to game on is my laptop for computer gaming..I have really not had any troubles? basically i was wondering how is it actually? I personally cant see how its that bad..but if im wrong idk I guess im open to people letting me know :P

[The Atomic Ass]

They exagerate. But some newer games are kinda bad on anything less than a dedicated graphics card. I get 18 average fps in the Tomb Raider performance test, on HD3000, and it does get downright unplayable at times. Hydrophobia: Prophecy is likewise horrible at times. Both of these are giving me good reasons to upgrade.

Overheating is somewhat of an issue, as laptops generally have poor cooling setups, and integrated units are usually worse. But a flat surface (as opposed to a lap) and a fan (skip the laptop cooling pads and get a real fan like you would use in an office to move air, those pads don't actually work) can make that part managable.

Neither of these is going to be an issue if you prefer 'lighter' games, such as Beat Hazard, Super Hexagon, Dynamite Jack, Nightsky, and suchlike, all of which stay rock solid at 60 fps for me with V-sync enabled.

[bvguthrie]

The Intel HD 3000 is terrible, but the HD 4000 is actually all right. It should even run Bioshock Infinite on low settings. The reason people criticize it, and all Intel graphics, is because it is not actually a graphics card. Intel graphics are built into the motherboard, rather than being separate, and therefore are far more limited than discrete cards. If you want high frame rates, or the ability to run newer games at decent settings, you will want a discrete graphics card designed for gaming.
As a final note, since you mention laptops, I will mention that laptop versions of graphics cards are inevitably inferior to desktop versions, since they have less space for the actual cores, less cooling, and usually cannot be upgraded.
Edit: ninja'd

[The Atomic Ass]

:ninja smiley:

[Xaccus]

Well i know its worse and that its not a card but until i do get myself a desktop im sticking with this :P and since it is integrated im sticking with the hd 400 lol xD but ya im about to test my actual capabilities out soon since I got max payne 3 and it looks very pretty from what i can tell :) just playing through the first two first and then ill see if it works out :D i do plan on making a gaming computer at some point..but probably after I move out cuz i got no where to even put one now :P good to know theres just people trolling those "can i run" forums. makes it sucky to see if i actually can though..

[[☥] - CJ -]

Intel 4000 iGPU's on Ivy Bridge CPUs are quite game capable, depending on the game of course.. But they are a bit more powerful than previous Integrated Intel chips.

[The Brown Hornet]

Because these guys are "hardcore" gamers and feel they have to have the best equipment possible, way above what is needed to simply "run" games. Intel HD 4000 is perfect for casual gamers and those who may game 2-3 hours and call it day. Also I like to say never ask about Intel HD on this site because 90% of replies will come from people who have no experience with it. Those who actually use HD 4000 know how to get maximum performance out of it.

[Xaccus]

well i actually game quite a lot and it works just fine for me. i started max payne and so far it works just fine i am running it on high and only have what seems to be the normal problems the game has :) im quite happy with the Intel HD. it with an ivy bridge i5 works out pretty well.

[Rubik748]

intel HD 4000 laptop graphics card

[[☥] - CJ -]

a dedicated GPU is a graphics chip within a type of protective case, an Integrated GPU is a graphics chip built into a CPU or motherboard.

So its technically the same thing.

[Rubik748]

☥ - CJ - eredeti hozzászólása:

a dedicated GPU is a graphics chip within a type of protective case, an Integrated GPU is a graphics chip built into a CPU or motherboard.

So its technically the same thing.

And yet "card" sticks out like a sore thumb.

[segfault]

Listen people... I hear people talk about how bad Intel HD Graphics Cards are, but the truth is... they really are not that bad. You see the problem with not being able to run your games on a certain graphics card is because the game might not be formatted correctly with the proper software for that graphics card. Do you notice how all games on PC's run on Nvidia? That's because all games start out with a port for Nvidia. Nvidia is the first graphics card that games are formatted for. It's not that Intel HD Graphics are bad, it's just that some games are not properly formatted for Intel HD Graphics cards. In Steam descriptions of games, it will tell you that this game runs on Nvidia and/or Radeon. It does not tell you about Intel HD Graphics most of the time. You see Intel HD Graphics 3000 is pretty much able to play at a Nvidia GTX 600 level. The problem is when games are not ported all the way to Intel HD Graphics. Skyrim, for example, can actually run pretty well on an Intel HD Graphics 3000 card. Why? Because Skyrim was ported all the way to Intel HD Graphics. It's not that Intel HD Graphics are bad, it's just that some games are not properly formatted for Intel HD Graphics.

[time goblin]

my opinion on why people think its terrible because amd igpu's are better and cheaper.
a modern dedicated gpu will be eons ahead in terms of fps and capabilities.

Roadkill eredeti hozzászólása:

Listen people... I hear people talk about how bad Intel HD Graphics Cards are, but the truth is... they really are not that bad. You see the problem with not being able to run your games on a certain graphics card is because the game might not be formatted correctly with the proper software for that graphics card. Do you notice how all games on PC's run on Nvidia? That's because all games start out with a port for Nvidia. Nvidia is the first graphics card that games are formatted for. It's not that Intel HD Graphics are bad, it's just that some games are not properly formatted for Intel HD Graphics cards. In Steam descriptions of games, it will tell you that this game runs on Nvidia and/or Radeon. It does not tell you about Intel HD Graphics most of the time. You see Intel HD Graphics 3000 is pretty much able to play at a Nvidia GTX 600 level. The problem is when games are not ported all the way to Intel HD Graphics. Skyrim, for example, can actually run pretty well on an Intel HD Graphics 3000 card. Why? Because Skyrim was ported all the way to Intel HD Graphics. It's not that Intel HD Graphics are bad, it's just that some games are not properly formatted for Intel HD Graphics.

ok lets do a test you run skyrim and ill run skyrim with fraps at 1080p ultra, if it performs as well as the gtx 600's then surely my 690 will be similar to hd 4000 or hd 4200 or iris pro/whatever

[_I_]

the intel 4000 is better than the gt 620/630
the 3000 is close to the 4200/4250

[The Brown Hornet]

If you keep your HD3000/4000 drivers updated you'll be amazed what games it can run