Windows 11 is great. Windows 7 is not.
If your potato PC from 2009 cannot cope then it's time to move on. Windows 11 isn't terrible, your lack of modification or willingness to learn basic adjustments is the problem.

The endless complaints will continue. I look forward to January 2024.
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What to do with older PCs that are still good enough for Web browsing, multi-media stuff. Wipe the drive clean, provide the system with a HDD, not an SSD. Donate the PC to a Library with a clean legit Windows OS on it; Win7 SP1 64bit or later.
Crashed 14 Mei 2023 @ 7:54am 
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To my knowledge, Windows 7 doesn't log your keystrokes or sell your browsing history to advertisers like 10 and 11 do. That's why your license is free.

You're also signing off rights of your data over to Microsoft by agreeing to the terms and conditions of using Windows 11, so they absolve themselves of any wrongdoing.
to my knowledge, win10 doesnt do that either, thats why microsoft gives us antivirus for free
Some take UWP and related apps having a dynamic spellcheck to mean they are keylogging while ignoring the dangerts of a real keylogger.
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Let's face facts, most all OS are crap out of the box without user changes. Tweaking each OS is a must.

You can easily disable much of what you might not like in Win10/11 with ease.

Most of it you don't need 3rd party tools to make such changes.

That doesn't fit the narrative of die-hard Windows 7 users though. I agree that it's incredibly easy to modify Windows 10/11 to remove all the telemetry/spying/phoning home. The addition of Pi-hole on your network makes it even more effective.


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Why is no one talking about the best OS ever? win 2k Pro!

Nothing like firing up unreal tournament on an ATI Rage 128 Pro, or half-life. Those were the days. :steamhappy:
plat 16 Mei 2023 @ 5:06pm 
That's one thing I have to admit to, and I am so NOT a fan of Windows 11. It ran literally "perfectly" from day 1. Almost two years now (June 2021). A very stable operating system.

I'm sticking with 10.
Viking2121 16 Mei 2023 @ 5:29pm 
Idk, I got a q6600 system with 8GB of DDR2 and a 8400gs, runs windows 11 just fine. I'd rather the UI of windows 7, I don't need big buttons, fancy touch screen friendly settings menu,and I don;t need to click 30 more times to do what use to be a few clicks away, but whatever, kind of defeats the purpose of multitasking or evven switch tasks with how the forcing the small buttons on the task bar.

Oh MS thinks there is too many options in the right click menu, lets change some of to icons, and hide the rest under another menu... Oh lets force the technician or a person reinstalling windows for someone they know to login to a MS account to install windows on a system thats not theirs, easy enough to get around it with the proper know how but why?

Yeah, MS can go screw themselves, sorry. I wish Linux would just get to the point where its bit more compatible and less terminal this, terminal that. Oh good luck getting this to work with a guide thats 10 years old.
battlezoby 17 Mei 2023 @ 11:39pm 
Anyone who like any version of Ms-Windows over any other ought to be objecting loudly to the Windows-7 shutoff.

Because if people keep just "rolling with the punches", eventually whatever version you like will be shutoff on Steam, and you'll be just be stuck without whatever the decide you should use next, until they decide you should use the one after that.
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Anyone who like any version of Ms-Windows over any other ought to be objecting loudly to the Windows-7 shutoff.

Because if people keep just "rolling with the punches", eventually whatever version you like will be shutoff on Steam, and you'll be just be stuck without whatever the decide you should use next, until they decide you should use the one after that.

It will not matter if like 100 million of you protest this. Steam can not upgrade the client any further without making this move.
Chouchers 18 Mei 2023 @ 12:57pm 
If you can't run win 11 because have new PC just install linux mint thery very good job at copy win 7 experience so feel at home. But don't bother with windows 10 22h2 the OS is old and go few years until EOL left worst microsoft ruin it now it unstable.
r.linder 18 Mei 2023 @ 1:18pm 
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If you can't run win 11 because have new PC just install linux mint thery very good job at copy win 7 experience so feel at home. But don't bother with windows 10 22h2 the OS is old and go few years until EOL left worst microsoft ruin it now it unstable.
All wrong.

11 runs on Core 2 series systems from the 2000s, Mint is still quite different from Windows, and 10 22H2 is fine. It’s still getting security updates until 2025, just no major feature updates. Still better than some of the dumb changes made with 11. Upgrading to an OS (I.e. 10 to 11) makes it less stable than a fresh install.
Terakhir diedit oleh r.linder; 18 Mei 2023 @ 1:19pm
battlezoby 18 Mei 2023 @ 3:55pm 
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Anyone who like any version of Ms-Windows over any other ought to be objecting loudly to the Windows-7 shutoff.

Because if people keep just "rolling with the punches", eventually whatever version you like will be shutoff on Steam, and you'll be just be stuck without whatever the decide you should use next, until they decide you should use the one after that.

It will not matter if like 100 million of you protest this. Steam can not upgrade the client any further without making this move.
Yes, they can. They are using open source software they can modify, and they are taking in an estimated billions of dollars of revenue per year with which to do it.
Terakhir diedit oleh battlezoby; 18 Mei 2023 @ 3:57pm
HUBRIS! I'll rather lose steam than upgrade to Windows 10 or 11 with all it's bloatware! I'll keep my Windows 7 or a better options LINUX with WINE
Terakhir diedit oleh RSYU613; 18 Mei 2023 @ 4:00pm
There are a ton of games that actually will need Win10 as the bare minimum; not always due to DX12 but other factors at hand as well. So if you have hundreds or thousands of Steam Games and not one of those actually requires Win10; you've simply been buying some very low demanding games or much older games in general.

You can very easily turn off and disable much of what you consider bloatware within Win10/11 so I really don't see what all the complaining is about. If this is your logical reason for staying away from Win10 or 11; you're simply an uneducated user who needs to get with it and actually go learn more into all of this cause you've obviously been going off of typical YouTuber scare tactics and such if you think Win10/11 is going to create problems for you.
battlezoby 19 Mei 2023 @ 1:57am 
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HUBRIS! I'll rather lose steam than upgrade to Windows 10 or 11 with all it's bloatware! I'll keep my Windows 7 or a better options LINUX with WINE
You do realize that WINE is just an open-source malware emulator right? ("Malware" meaning Microsoft Windows.)

Q: I've done very little to look at Linux regard modern and semi-modern games. Is there much (or anything) here on Steam that runs a native Linux without WINE?

Back around 20+ years ago, I was running Freecol, FreeCiv, Cube, Assault Cube and Sauerbraten natively on FreeBSD. All were pretty good games except for that part where FreeCol started adding in new features without fixing bugs. (But there was a version which ran smoothly proved you saved and restored often enough.)
Terakhir diedit oleh battlezoby; 19 Mei 2023 @ 2:00am
I just run Symbian on my PC
Shadow 19 Mei 2023 @ 2:36am 
Oh man, I wish they added "Classic Theme" for Windows 10 - 11 or 12.
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