Last Soviet 18. apr. 2023 kl. 12.39
Looking for good new headphones/headset
Any suggestions? My prior Headset was the Roccat Syn Air Max,
I liked the headset overall,
was very comfortable and the sound was good.

However production quality was so low that the earpieces started to crack from the tension wearing it and broke off from the frame after using it merely for 2 months,

Now I'm looking for a alternative, Bluetooth is OK but not necessary, microphone isn't needed.
I'm currently eyeing the DT900 X Pro headphones, anybody has alternatives in a similar price range?
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Lupinus Rictus 18. apr. 2023 kl. 14.34 
Don't think you can go wrong with the dt900x pro saying that I've not heard them in person
The soundonaound review should mention some alternatives https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/beyerdynamic-dt-700-pro-x-dt-900-pro-x
Introverted Gamer 18. apr. 2023 kl. 14.39 
Sennheiser HD 600
Jamebonds1 18. apr. 2023 kl. 14.45 
Beyerdynamic have a ton of good headphone. I have DT 990 for a long time.
Last Soviet 18. apr. 2023 kl. 15.03 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Introverted Gamer:
Sennheiser HD 600

Difficult to decide between these two, I think I order both and see which one I like more and sent one back
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Last Soviet 18. apr. 2023 kl. 15.12 
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Beyerdynamic have a ton of good headphone. I have DT 990 for a long time.
I had some mmx 150(?) I think and gotta say frankly I wasn't impressed too much, sennheiser game one was a better headset with a for me better audio profile and much better comfort, the small earpiece puts pressure onto my ears and start to hurt after a while, while the sennheiser tends to have bigger ear pieces where my ear is enclosed in and is much more comfortable in longer sessions
DasWulf 18. apr. 2023 kl. 16.23 
I have a handful of headsets, including the Sennheisers. Even the far more expensive HD700.

Despite that, you know what I keep going back to for gaming? The V-Moda Crossfade. I highly recommend these, and they are built like a tank. Great bass, bluetooth options and more importantly you can slap a boom mic adapter onto it if you need it.

Open back headphone do provide a larger sound stage however, great for virtual surround when paired with an external sound card/amp, highly recommended especially if you go with the Sennheiser HD600s. Also check out the HIFIMAN HE400SE which use a different technology in order to create sound. I have these as well, for the price and comfort level, they are amazing though sound does feel a little distant.

Going back to the V-Moda Crossfades, they are already on version 3. These have been so good, that I have managed to acquire about 4 different versions of this headset over the years, and they are still great to this very day. You can probably get a great deal on the Crossfade 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDfsFg0C1a4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCUnSuAtBv0
Sist redigert av DasWulf; 18. apr. 2023 kl. 16.27
Bad 💀 Motha 18. apr. 2023 kl. 16.25 
Buy Studio Quality Headphones.
Buy a clip-on lapel Mic.

Very good combo. Better then any "headset w/ mic" that has ever existed
Last Soviet 18. apr. 2023 kl. 17.06 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Bad 💀 Motha:
Buy Studio Quality Headphones.
Buy a clip-on lapel Mic.

Very good combo. Better then any "headset w/ mic" that has ever existed
Yeah that's what Iam looking for, I use a streamer mic for some time now, standing in the back of the desk, much more convenient then have something in your face permantly and in worst case blocking your vision.. But I kept using headsets until now.

Red Dead Redemption 2, Stalker - you have patrician taste in games I'll give you that

Opprinnelig skrevet av DasWulf:
I have a handful of headsets, including the Sennheisers. Even the far more expensive HD700.

Despite that, you know what I keep going back to for gaming? The V-Moda Crossfade. I highly recommend these, and they are built like a tank. Great bass, bluetooth options and more importantly you can slap a boom mic adapter onto it if you need it.

Open back headphone do provide a larger sound stage however, great for virtual surround when paired with an external sound card/amp, highly recommended especially if you go with the Sennheiser HD600s. Also check out the HIFIMAN HE400SE which use a different technology in order to create sound. I have these as well, for the price and comfort level, they are amazing though sound does feel a little distant.

Going back to the V-Moda Crossfades, they are already on version 3. These have been so good, that I have managed to acquire about 4 different versions of this headset over the years, and they are still great to this very day. You can probably get a great deal on the Crossfade 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDfsFg0C1a4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCUnSuAtBv0

I definitely check out the crossfade 2/3 , bluetooth is great to have i just hate the random unpairing
but might be bad drivers on Roccats part... about HD600 + amp, do you think its worth it to get a external soundcard just for that?
I have a soundblaster ZxR on my older rig, but it's more then 10 years old now and I'm not to keen to install it on my new computer which has an ok on-board soundcard.. Can you suggest a few good ones that pair well with either the crossfire/hd600/dt900 x
Sist redigert av Last Soviet; 18. apr. 2023 kl. 17.33
DasWulf 18. apr. 2023 kl. 17.20 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Rasta Slav:

I definitely check out the crossfade 2/3 , bluetooth is great to have i just hate the random unpairing
but might be bad drivers on Roccats part... about HD600 + amp, do you think its worth it to get a external soundcard just for that?
I have a soundblaster ZxR on my older rig, but it's more then 10 years old now and I'm not to keen to install it on my new computer which has an ok on-board soundcard.. Can you suggest a few good ones that pair well with either the crossfire/hd600/dt900 x

That's the nice thing about the Vmodas, they automatically switch to analog mode once you plug an audio cable into the audio jack. In bluetooth it will switch to whatever device is active at the time that it has connected to before.

As for the external sound card, the HD600 needs a bit more juice to drive the sound properly. Tbh, all these headsets can benefit from an external sound card, once you try one, its hard to go back, especially when they have a good virtual 7.1 surround toggle.

Its well worth the money, and you can use them for years regardless of headset or computer. You can ignore whatever onboard "sound" options a motherboard wants to charge you an arm and a leg for.

I use the Sennheiser GSX1000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGX069Zo8kE

There are other options out there, some that give even more control over the sound profile.
For example the Creative sound blaster series and Asus Xonar. Sennheiser does have a more affordable option as well, depending on budget (EPOS Audio GSX 300). All three can use software to tune the sound.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k60dLM6LwI


If on a budget, you can spend less than and/or around $300 right now, at least in the US, getting a V-moda crossfade wireless 2 and a EPOS Audio GSX 300/Creative x4 or GC7 via amazon.
Sist redigert av DasWulf; 18. apr. 2023 kl. 17.50
Lupinus Rictus 18. apr. 2023 kl. 17.36 
If your mobo has an optical output it might be worth just getting a cheap dac with headphone output rather than a soundcard
Talby 18. apr. 2023 kl. 17.40 
picked up a Samson SR850 for $35 nearly 3 years ago, and with a $10 clip mic and a $20 SB Play!3 it has been the most durable combo that sounds quite excellent for gaming and movies (I suspect it is the hingeless design, reminiscent of AKG). Yes I am cheap :steamsad:

I did pick up a Philips SHP9500 for around $55 around the same time, mated to my Onkyo AV, probably the best I have...
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Last Soviet 18. apr. 2023 kl. 18.22 
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That's the nice thing about the Vmodas, they automatically switch to analog mode once you plug an audio cable into the audio jack. In bluetooth it will switch to whatever device is active at the time that it has connected to before.

As for the external sound card, the HD600 needs a bit more juice to drive the sound properly. Tbh, all these headsets can benefit from an external sound card, once you try one, its hard to go back, especially when they have a good virtual 7.1 surround toggle.

Its well worth the money, and you can use them for years regardless of headset or computer. You can ignore whatever onboard "sound" options a motherboard wants to charge you an arm and a leg for.

I use the Sennheiser GSX1000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGX069Zo8kE

There are other options out there, some that give even more control over the sound profile.
For example the Creative sound blaster series and Asus Xonar. Sennheiser does have a more affordable option as well, depending on budget (EPOS Audio GSX 300)

Yea, I was using Creative Sound Blaster ZxR for quite some time, but it also some times didn't produce that spectacular results and some times fiddling with the drivers wasn't too much fun and hard to find a good middle ground,

also the creative drivers were quite a bit wonky back in the day and to make the card work was a bit of a pain
This might have gotten better now,
On-board sound got really better in recent years that and the wonky drivers didn't made me miss the card too much..

however the GSX1000 as a driverless plug and play solution might be just the thing I'm looking for thanks for the replies and suggestions, I defo will try it out
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If your mobo has an optical output it might be worth just getting a cheap dac with headphone output rather than a soundcard

I think it might have it, I have to check it when I'm at home, but I what does give the best results in case it's possible?
Sist redigert av Last Soviet; 18. apr. 2023 kl. 18.25
Lupinus Rictus 18. apr. 2023 kl. 18.38 
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I think it might have it, I have to check it when I'm at home, but I what does give the best results in case it's possible?

It just means you won't need to install a sound card, you can output stereo over optical into optical input on a dac. It's not necessarily better, just more minimilistic, because it won't have any other features besides dac + headphone and audio output ( though some don't even have headphone out - check ).
There's a big market for dacs nowdays with some extremely expensive options, some even with usb ( requiring drivers - basically an expensive soundcard ) At the entry level, the quality should exceed a soundcard of a similar price ( say 100 bucks and under ). It can be a mine field picking the right unit, and I haven't got 1st hand experience with alot of the options I'd be looking at if I was buying, but I'll find a few pointers for ya and post them here when I get round to it, should be by tomorrow.
I will say there's nothing wrong with a budget soundcard anyway, you could even use the headphone amp on an old hifi amp they're normally pretty decent. Even the one in your pc should be okay, the dt's are quite a low impedence so shouldn't be hard to drive.

ps sorry my sentencing isn't a bit clearer I'm kind of concentrating on several things at once :cybereye:
Last Soviet 18. apr. 2023 kl. 19.46 
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It just means you won't need to install a sound card, you can output stereo over optical into optical input on a dac. It's not necessarily better, just more minimilistic, because it won't have any other features besides dac + headphone and audio output ( though some don't even have headphone out - check ).
There's a big market for dacs nowdays with some extremely expensive options, some even with usb ( requiring drivers - basically an expensive soundcard ) At the entry level, the quality should exceed a soundcard of a similar price ( say 100 bucks and under ). It can be a mine field picking the right unit, and I haven't got 1st hand experience with alot of the options I'd be looking at if I was buying, but I'll find a few pointers for ya and post them here when I get round to it, should be by tomorrow.
I will say there's nothing wrong with a budget soundcard anyway, you could even use the headphone amp on an old hifi amp they're normally pretty decent. Even the one in your pc should be okay, the dt's are quite a low impedence so shouldn't be hard to drive.

ps sorry my sentencing isn't a bit clearer I'm kind of concentrating on several things at once :cybereye:

No hurries, I need to check if there is a optical output first, but you guys have been great help
Sist redigert av Last Soviet; 18. apr. 2023 kl. 19.59
Jamebonds1 18. apr. 2023 kl. 20.25 
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Beyerdynamic have a ton of good headphone. I have DT 990 for a long time.
I had some mmx 150(?) I think and gotta say frankly I wasn't impressed too much, sennheiser game one was a better headset with a for me better audio profile and much better comfort, the small earpiece puts pressure onto my ears and start to hurt after a while, while the sennheiser tends to have bigger ear pieces where my ear is enclosed in and is much more comfortable in longer sessions
The one I'm talking about is not a gaming headset. They have studio grade headphone.
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