M3talSnake13 2015 年 2 月 13 日 上午 11:04
Nvidia vs AMD
I'm looking to upgrade my GPU soon. My current system:

Intel i7-860 overclocked to 3.4 ghz
(EVGA) Nvidia Geforce GTX 480
8 GB Ram
Windows 8.1

My question is, which GPU should I go with? Nvidia or AMD? Should I upgrade to GTX 960 (within my budget and I would like to get Maxwell. I'm not going to even bother with GTX 970 and 980 is way out of my budget) or should I wait for the new AMD GPUs?
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sleazyhunterx 2015 年 2 月 13 日 上午 11:09 
well a GTX 960 is equivalent to R9 280x or R9 285

so newer AMD gpus will be much more high end I think

now, I have at least one card for each brand, and although my first card was AMD and I will always prefer AMD, NVIDIA does seem to be better....but it comes down to price too, I actually got NVIDIA cards for cheaper than AMD equivalents while consuming less power and creating less heat
M3talSnake13 2015 年 2 月 13 日 上午 11:21 
i was told I should get AMD because they work harder than nvidia, which is probably why they run hotter. My first graphics card in my current build was a XFX HD 5830 (back when they were ATI) and first time i ran it, it got so hot that the fan burnt out and replaced it with a GTS 450 and then upgraded to GTX 480. I'm only considering AMD because that's what consoles use now-a-days, besides the fact that Nvidia lied to the public about their GTX 970.
sleazyhunterx 2015 年 2 月 13 日 上午 11:28 
引用自 M3talSnake13
i was told I should get AMD because they work harder than nvidia, which is probably why they run hotter. My first graphics card in my current build was a XFX HD 5830 (back when they were ATI) and first time i ran it, it got so hot that the fan burnt out and replaced it with a GTS 450 and then upgraded to GTX 480. I'm only considering AMD because that's what consoles use now-a-days, besides the fact that Nvidia lied to the public about their GTX 970.

yeah, this recent little problem might sway people towards AMD now, I have AMD cards and notice great performance, likewise for the NVIDIA, but if heat is not a problem, then go for AMD as they have improved quite a bit from before and seem to be gaining the upper hand in the high end arena with its R9 295X2 beating NVIDIA according to some sites.
yberkurko 2015 年 2 月 13 日 下午 1:05 
引用自 sbhunterx

yeah, this recent little problem might sway people towards AMD now, I have AMD cards and notice great performance, likewise for the NVIDIA, but if heat is not a problem, then go for AMD as they have improved quite a bit from before and seem to be gaining the upper hand in the high end arena with its R9 295X2 beating NVIDIA according to some sites.

R9 295x2 and TitanZ are quite irrelevant products; mainly made for those who are willing to pay anything for highest performance. R9 295x2 sure has way better performance but it has insane power draw and getting two r9 290x for crossfire is cheaper.
最后由 yberkurko 编辑于; 2015 年 2 月 13 日 下午 1:08
Rumpelcrutchskin 2015 年 2 月 13 日 下午 1:19 
引用自 sbhunterx
well a GTX 960 is equivalent to R9 280x or R9 285

It's equivalent to R9 280. But R9 280 has 3 Gb VRAM with 384-bit memory interface against 2 Gb and 128-bit of GTX 960 making it better choice for modern games if you have decent 600W PSU.

R9 285 is actually worse card then R9 280 and R9 280X is more powerful then GTX 960.
yberkurko 2015 年 2 月 13 日 下午 1:34 
引用自 Rumpelcrutchskin
引用自 sbhunterx
well a GTX 960 is equivalent to R9 280x or R9 285

It's equivalent to R9 280. But R9 280 has 3 Gb VRAM with 384-bit memory interface against 2 Gb and 128-bit of GTX 960 making it better choice for modern games if you have decent 600W PSU.

R9 285 is actually worse card then R9 280 and R9 280X is more powerful then GTX 960.
R9 280 and 280x are strongest cards of that lot, but as they are based on quite old gpu r9 285 and GTX960 have some new features (that aren't for games; better hardware support for video encoding/ decoding for example if i remember right).
最后由 yberkurko 编辑于; 2015 年 2 月 13 日 下午 1:35
upcoast 2015 年 2 月 13 日 下午 1:44 
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/68697-nvidia-gtx-960-reference-review-5.html

The r9 280/280x are better, the 960 competes with the 285, take a look at Dying Light the 960 min fps blows aka shows poorly but that's what you get for castrating the 960 too much a standard practice of NVidia.
Rumpelcrutchskin 2015 年 2 月 13 日 下午 1:58 
Yeah, they really killed the GTX 960 with 128-bit memory interface.
upcoast 2015 年 2 月 13 日 下午 2:06 
引用自 Rumpelcrutchskin
Yeah, they really killed the GTX 960 with 128-bit memory interface.

Ya it makes you wonder what they'll do with the 950ti give it 64bit.

Nvidia should rename the 960 to 950ti then make a real 960ti and be done with it.


Ps, I've got the r9 280x and plays all good enough for me at 1080p.
最后由 upcoast 编辑于; 2015 年 2 月 13 日 下午 2:09
Azza ☠ 2015 年 2 月 13 日 下午 2:43 
GTX 970 FTW - If it's outside of your price range, save up or get a console instead.
Paraborne 2015 年 2 月 13 日 下午 3:52 
I just recently built my computer (i5-4690k, gtx 980) and it's amazing. It's my first build of my own. My roommate has an AMD build and it too cool, even though it's becoming a bit dated. I don't think you can go wrong with either one. There are some great youtbue videos comparing the too and what "type" of gamer they are suited for. Like Nvidia has their PhysX, but that is only available in a few games, so If you really want the opportunity to play with that much detail (if that's what you like) Nvidia's the way to go. They also talked about how AMD and their (generally) larger VRAM size accomodates multiple monitors better. I'd just look it up there, but still, great brands!
Sir Dookface McFerretballs 2015 年 2 月 13 日 下午 7:19 
Wait a month or two till all the new Q1 cards come out in march and april.

Supposedly nVidia and AMD have some seriously good offerings coming up, with AMD having a sub $350 card with 8GB VRAM and nVidia having one or two to compete with it.

RIght now the GTX970 has a VRAM issue where some games are really only able to use 3.4GB of VRAM and nVidia knows about this and has admitted they will not fix it, so it causes stuttering in games like far cry 3 & 4, batman arkham series, texture modded skyrim, and so on. Basically any game that tries to ask for the full 4GB the card is advertised as having will only get 7/8ths of that and start an annoying stuttering in game. The 980 does not have this problem but is over $200 more than the 970.

As for AMD cards... They work okay but still suffer from issues they have had for over 10 years, anywhere from poor game and driver support (though the game support is pretty much nVidias doing by partnering with game devs to muscle out AMD support), to working better as a room heater, and they still cannot do physx processing.

When it comes down to it, both companies make good products and hit or miss products, but nVidia has been on the top for a while now with much better driver and game support for the vast majority of games out there.
Long Ago [Linux] 2015 年 2 月 13 日 下午 10:13 
If you ever want to try Linux (or SteamOS which is Linux) Nvidia is the only way to go right now. Intel is too slow and AMD/ATI have had various issues with Linux Steam.

You cannot always tell performance from raw spec's. Nvidia's goal lately has been to improve efficiency (sucking more power and physically hotter does not necessarily mean better).

I just got a baby Maxwell (GTX 750 Ti). Basically it does some things about the same and some things twice as fast as my GTX 550 Ti did using nearly half the power (60w vs 116w). So my whole PC only uses ~150w max instead of 200+w and idles at 50w vs. 75w.

I was considering building a computer (which I have not done before). But I use a 32" 1080p HDTV, so this one will hold me for now.
yberkurko 2015 年 2 月 14 日 上午 12:07 

As for AMD cards... They work okay but still suffer from issues they have had for over 10 years, anywhere from poor game and driver support (though the game support is pretty much nVidias doing by partnering with game devs to muscle out AMD support), to working better as a room heater, and they still cannot do physx processing.

Reason AMD cards can't do PhysX is that it is Nvidia proprietary, not because their cards could not be made to do same things. There was some talk about someone being able to make amd cards run PhysX few years back and not long ago dew of witcher 3 told that it's up to Nvidia if new "physx" fur will be available to AMD card owners too and that they have tested it with both systems. Seems the article was updated later and Nvidia is saying fur was not done with physx but "they are handled by DX11 via DirectCompute."
http://www.dsogaming.com/news/the-witcher-3-developer-its-up-to-nvidia-to-let-amd-users-enjoy-physx-hair-and-fur-effects/
Not sure if it is Nvidia trying to manage the damage or the dew doesn't really know what technology they use for things.
最后由 yberkurko 编辑于; 2015 年 2 月 14 日 上午 12:12
mika 2015 年 2 月 14 日 上午 9:34 
I read they might be releasing a Gtx 960 Ti version? So it might be in your best interest to wait a little bit? Altough noone is sure if it will still use the 128-Bit or something better? But Color-compression is said to boost Nvidia so it dosent matter as much? At least thats what they claim lol.

For me currently I see the R9 290x and 290 being one hell of a deal at $280 and $300 dollars,Ive seen em as low as $225.Why dont you get a Last-gen high-end card like a Gtx 780 ti? Even a Gtx 680 can still rip through todays games with no problems whatsoever! My card for example-Gtx 660Ti 1336 cuda cores is basicly a Gtx 670 I can play ANY game in my steam library at max settings with this card-I bought it at MicroCenter for $120 dollars.
最后由 mika 编辑于; 2015 年 2 月 14 日 上午 9:38
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