Irene ❤ 16 AGO 2022 a las 12:32
Good time to buy 3090 now?
The price of all 30 cards seems to drop to normal value today.
SSD price have drop in price too.

Worrying about :
- will coming 40 series be cheaper and with better performance
- will 30 series be more expensive after new cards were launched and scalpers caused a shortage.
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Bad 💀 Motha 19 AGO 2022 a las 7:31 
You can now get 3090 Ti for around $1300 USD
Crashed 19 AGO 2022 a las 10:09 
Publicado originalmente por Irene ❤:
The price of all 30 cards seems to drop to normal value today.
SSD price have drop in price too.

Worrying about :
- will coming 40 series be cheaper and with better performance
- will 30 series be more expensive after new cards were launched and scalpers caused a shortage.
Rumor has it the 4080 will be a significant jump from the 3080 while using the same amount of power.
plat 19 AGO 2022 a las 10:22 
Publicado originalmente por Bad 💀 Motha:
You can now get 3090 Ti for around $1300 USD

Yup, I saw this on Amazon, ironically--remember when they were scalping these things last year?
Elucidator 19 AGO 2022 a las 10:54 
Its been a while since I answered one of these. Yeah, GPUs are back to being decently priced.
I agree this time that it is a good time to buy one ;p

and I hope things stay affortable even for the lowest income group. (I think everyone should be able to game with the rest if they want whenever.)
I guess having a deck is also an option for some of them though, since valve kindly enough never screwed with the prices. xd
but yeah its an okay price I think. (I rather go wait for it to lower myself or for a newer card.. for financial reasons, not because I find the price absurd xd)
HypersleepyNaputunia 19 AGO 2022 a las 11:15 
$1000 phones
$1000 gpus

1 kilowatt power supplies
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Bad 💀 Motha 19 AGO 2022 a las 11:56 
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Publicado originalmente por Bad 💀 Motha:
You can now get 3090 Ti for around $1300 USD

Yup, I saw this on Amazon, ironically--remember when they were scalping these things last year?

Yes but Amazon didn't really have anything to do with that. There are hundreds of thousands of 3rd party sellers on there, just like Newegg.

I remember when it was common place that if you wanted a good gpu at the time of being current tech, they went for around $500. I remember paying that for GeForce 3. I also paid about that amount for 980 Ti

But unless you are doing work that pays for your stuff anyways, you don't need a 3090 or 3090 Ti. A 3080 Ti does what those do for the most part, with less Vram but it's still plenty of vram. Now sure the 3090 Ti can do quite a bit more overall, but are you really going to use it. You can easily save a couple hundred $ going with a 3080 Ti instead.
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Hugh J nuss 19 AGO 2022 a las 12:29 
Publicado originalmente por Bad 💀 Motha:
Publicado originalmente por plat:

Yup, I saw this on Amazon, ironically--remember when they were scalping these things last year?

Yes but Amazon didn't really have anything to do with that. There are hundreds of thousands of 3rd party sellers on there, just like Newegg.

I remember when it was common place that if you wanted a good gpu at the time of being current tech, they went for around $500. I remember paying that for GeForce 3. I also paid about that amount for 980 Ti

But unless you are doing work that pays for your stuff anyways, you don't need a 3090 or 3090 Ti. A 3080 Ti does what those do for the most part, with less Vram but it's still plenty of vram. Now sure the 3090 Ti can do quite a bit more overall, but are you really going to use it. You can easily save a couple hundred $ going with a 3080 Ti instead.

Honestly the best GPU out right now is the 308012gb. As fast as a ti, priced at a 3080, and can be over clocked to 3090fe levels
Bad 💀 Motha 19 AGO 2022 a las 12:33 
Overclocks in gpus don't really do anything though, but whatever
Hugh J nuss 19 AGO 2022 a las 12:41 
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Overclocks in gpus don't really do anything though, but whatever

What do you mean by this?

I hit 10k in timespy extreme, and run more stable framerates in certain games
ZeekAncient 19 AGO 2022 a las 16:13 
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Overclocks in gpus don't really do anything though, but whatever

I beg to differ. I have always overclocked GPUs, and still continue to do so, with great results. I am always able to get an extra 100 to 200 mhz increase on the core clock and a good 1000 mhz increase on the memory clock.

My EVGA 3070 Ti FTW3 Ultra is already factory overclocked, with a 1860Mhz boost clock, but I was able to get an extra 170 Mhz on the core clock and 1000 mhz on the memory clock. And with the power limit turned all the way up as well as the voltage, it takes the boost clock up to 2145 Mhz.

And it isn't just better scores in 3DMark, but gaming performance is increased substantially as well. I wouldn't say it is up to 3080 performance, but definitely much higher than a stock 3070 Ti's performance.

Regardless of what people might say and think, overclocking is not dead in 2022. Whether that be on the CPU or GPU. But while you probably cannot overclock a CPU as much as you used to, you most certainly can overclock a GPU just as well as you did 10 years ago. Though, apparently AMD and Intel are going to be making their next CPUs more overclockable again.

Edit: BTW, I was able to go higher than +170 on the core clock and +1000 on the memory clock, but this number just so happens to be what was stable in benchmarks as well as in gaming. Higher clocks were stable in benchmarks but not necessarily stable while gaming.
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Bad 💀 Motha 19 AGO 2022 a las 19:01 
All it has ever resulted in is maybe single digit FPS increases since around the GTX 7xx series or so. Nothing "substation" as you claim. Modern GPUs can not OC very far. They are very close to their "maximum brick wall" when you buy most GPUs these days, which are mostly already OC'ed beyond the stock specs.

CPU overclocking is a different story, this can benefit the entire PC and everything you do on it.
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Hugh J nuss 19 AGO 2022 a las 19:09 
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All it has ever resulted in is maybe single digit FPS increases since around the GTX 7xx series or so. Nothing "substation" as you claim. Modern GPUs can not OC very far. They are very close to their "maximum brick wall" when you buy most GPUs these days, which are mostly already OC'ed beyond the stock specs.

CPU overclocking is a different story, this can benefit the entire PC and everything you do on it.

My 3080 boosts to 2160mhz with my over clock. From the factory it only hit 1900-1950. Pretty significant increase
Bad 💀 Motha 19 AGO 2022 a las 19:11 
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All it has ever resulted in is maybe single digit FPS increases since around the GTX 7xx series or so. Nothing "substation" as you claim. Modern GPUs can not OC very far. They are very close to their "maximum brick wall" when you buy most GPUs these days, which are mostly already OC'ed beyond the stock specs.

CPU overclocking is a different story, this can benefit the entire PC and everything you do on it.

My 3080 boosts to 2160mhz with my over clock. From the factory it only hit 1900-1950. Pretty significant increase

Most GPUs will boost to near its max if you keep it cooled down enough. Problem is most are using air cooled GPUs and as a result you wouldn't see it able to stay cooled down enough to auto boost enough on its own.

Overall, all that aside, what is the end result in real-world performance. Not enough to bother.
Hugh J nuss 19 AGO 2022 a las 19:21 
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My 3080 boosts to 2160mhz with my over clock. From the factory it only hit 1900-1950. Pretty significant increase

Most GPUs will boost to near its max if you keep it cooled down enough. Problem is most are using air cooled GPUs and as a result you wouldn't see it able to stay cooled down enough to auto boost enough on its own.

Overall, all that aside, what is the end result in real-world performance. Not enough to bother.

Mine is air cooled, but I added heat pads between the backplate and the VRMs and and added a giant heatsink to the backplate, which honestly probably does more than an overclock
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ZeekAncient 19 AGO 2022 a las 19:32 
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All it has ever resulted in is maybe single digit FPS increases since around the GTX 7xx series or so. Nothing "substation" as you claim. Modern GPUs can not OC very far. They are very close to their "maximum brick wall" when you buy most GPUs these days, which are mostly already OC'ed beyond the stock specs.

CPU overclocking is a different story, this can benefit the entire PC and everything you do on it.

That is where you are wrong. It is more like a 15% increase in performance. Now that is still pretty substantial. If playing at 4K, that might only amount to about single digit increase in FPS, but for me, that is substantial. Especially when it amounts to putting a game over the 60 FPS mark, when it might hover around 55 or less.

At lower resolutions, it is even higher. Now, I have been overclocking GPUs since the GTX 400 series. That means a GTX 460, a GTX 570, a GTX 980 Ti, two GTX 1070s, a GTX 1070 Ti, and an RTX 3070 Ti. All where air cooled, and not all were factory overclocked. EVGA and Asus. But ALL where able to overclock quite well, and resulted in a good increase in performance. That is real world performance. An increase in FPS.

I have also overclocked my CPUs, but overclocking the GPU is what amounted to the most increase in FPS. So, I don't know where you are getting your information, but you are absolutely wrong. And have been wrong about it before. Just read any online review, or watch a youtube review, where someone will review a GPU and also apply an overclock. They will all say the same thing. Do some research.

My 1070 TI is on the GP104 board, same as the 1070 TI, and with the OC I have on it, performs quite a bit better than a stock 1080. Now, my 3070 TI is on the GA104, and the 3080 on the GA102, so even with the overclock I have on it cannot get quite to 3080 levels but it is much better than stock 3070 Ti levels.

I use a custom fan profile, and my case is well ventilated, and you can see by my 3DMark results that my 3070 Ti keeps its boost high while staying relatively cool. i am not the only one who overclocks their GPUs. Do some research. The results are substantial, whether you want to believe it or not. Sorry but you are just wrong.

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/66725329?

As you can see from this Timespy result, my clock was at 2160 Mhz, average was 2114 Mhz, and average temp at 61C. That is on air. You can see my other results on my profile page. They tell the same story. That is much better than a stock 3070 Ti, and better than just my card with its factory overclock. This equates to higher 3DMark scores AND higher FPS in games. So quite substantial. And "Real World" results.

Here, read this. Even PC gamer says that you can overclock your GPU. And you can expect a 10 to 15% increase in performance from the 30 series card. Now, they do say that you might not be able to get the results you did years past. But every card is different, and there is no harm in trying. I have found that I have got great results from overclocking my 3070 TI, and it isn't too far off from what I was able to get in the past with all my GPUs.

Just check out their results. If it equates to better performance in games, why not OC your GPU? And as they state, overclocking your GPU will most of the time get you better results in games than overclocking your CPU. This also what I have found. Unless a game is incredibly CPU limited, GPU is what will determine your performance. Most games are GPU bound nowadays.

https://www.pcgamer.com/how-to-overclock-your-graphics-card/

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