AdahnGorion 2020 年 8 月 16 日 上午 2:56
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The big GPU/Tech Rumours thread - Nvidia/AMD/Others - Is it worth to invest now? what news are here now? Feel free to debate
This thread has evolved a alot and has now become a New Runours on tech thread - It is primarily focused on GPU´s and it should stay that way. I will update the thread, whenever we have new information about newer GPU´s releasing. Feel free to debate some of the more catchy tech rumours as well.

I have reserved this field in our thread starter to keep current debates up and new information.
Atm.


2024/2025

Here are the official announcements
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k82RwXqZHY8&t=1496s
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/50-series/
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Varous information about the new 5000 series.
https://www.techradar.com/computing/gpu/nvidia-unveils-new-geforce-rtx-5090-rtx-5080-rtx-5070-ti-and-rtx-5070-graphics-cards-at-ces-2025


We have started to see more information about the new Nvidia Blackwell GPU´s (5000´s series)

Here is a leak, not very interesting tbh.
https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/geforce-rtx-5000-specs-boring-leak
https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-blackwell/



2023

We debate the 4000 series released and the ones that will release, a long with the rumours about the 5000 series, that is showcased to be the biggest leap in GPU history performance wise (like everytime ofc)

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-preps-mass-production-two-ad104-ada-gpus-possibly-geforce-rtx-4070-rtx-4060-ti/amp/


2021

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-increase-efficiency-of-chips-thirtyfold-by-2025
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-shows-off-geforce-rtx-with-noctua-cooler
https://winfuture.de/news,125475.html



So I figured we should have a thread about the new RTX 3xxx series, that is soon to release.
What is your feeling about it? Do you think some of the rumours are true? Are you upgrading?


The flagship seems to be a 3090 (I like them going back to the x90 tier)
https://videocardz.com/newz/micron-confirms-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-gets-21gbps-gddr6x-memory

Personally I will not upgrade yet and even if I had to (I do not) I would still wait for prices to go down, early adoption is expenssive and often not worth it. But I am interested about what rumours might be true.

Some of the earlier rumours have suggested even higher GB numbers (from 16 and up) and performance claims have been all from 10-50% in effective speed and up to 60% in ray tracing inprovement.


I think it will be a 10-15% max in effective speed on each tier, but I do think we will see significant increases in the Ray Tracing spectrum.


Other sources (remember to take sources and numbers with a grain of salt)
https://www.techradar.com/news/nvidia-rtx-3000-launch-details-leak-and-amd-could-be-in-big-trouble
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/69629/nvidia-ampere-gpu-50-faster-turing-half-power/index.html
https://www.gpumag.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3000-series/
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-rtx-3080-rumors-news-release-date-performance/
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2020/08/10/nvidia-ampere-rtx-3000-everything-we-know-so-far/
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-graphics-card-pictured
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-allegedly-cancels-geforce-rtx-3080-20gb-and-rtx-3070-16gb
Pricing
https://www.techpowerup.com/271081/rumor-geforce-rtx-3090-pricing-to-arrive-around-the-usd-2-000-mark
https://www.neowin.net/news/alleged-rtx-3080-ti-rtx-3070-ti-launch-dates-have-leaked/

AMD - Big Navi

It will be interesting to see what AMD brings to the table. Personally I think they will go for the mid tier market and if they succeed then, we might see battles for the top tier next generation.

Rumours

https://www.eteknix.com/amd-navi-21-xt-graphics-card-specs-leak/
https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/joao-silva/amd-navi-21-xt-xl-leak-suggests-an-over-2-0ghz-boost-clock/
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/rumor-amds-navi-21-gpu-has-255-watts-tgp-and-boost-up-to-2-4-ghz.html
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-navi-21-xt-to-feature-2-3-2-4-ghz-game-clock-250w-tgp-and-16-gb-gddr6-memory
https://www.igorslab.de/en/3dmark-in-ultra-hd-benchmarks-the-rx-6800xt-without-and-with-raytracing/
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-6800xt-alleged-3dmark-scores-hit-the-web
https://wccftech.com/intel-first-high-end-xe-hpg-dg2-gaming-graphics-pictured-rumored-specs-performance-rtx-3080-performance/amp/


Interesting stats about Big Navi

It seems like all will ship with atleast 16 GB, if that is true, that is surprising tbh.
Rumours talk about 2.4GHz clock on the Navi 21 XT. I think it will be pretty exciting to watch. We will know more in a week, once it gets revealed.


It seems that Nvidia is releasing a new series for miners and are changing the 3060, that will release on 25 of feb. Links below.
https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-cmp-mining-cards-rtx-3060-half-hash-rate/
https://hothardware.com/news/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-availability-crypto-mining-cmp-gpu
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/cmp/

Various Rumours about hardware

https://videocardz.com/newz/bitmain-antminer-e9-ethereum-asic-is-as-powerful-as-32-geforce-rtx-3080-graphics-cards
https://wccftech.com/mainstream-ddr5-memory-modules-pictured-rolling-out-for-mass-production/amp/



Do you want to show off your new build or even just your old build. Then you can do so at
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/5413843407449992305/

That is our benchmark thread. You are still free to debate hardware related stuff and new builds here ofc.
最後修改者:AdahnGorion; 1 月 8 日 上午 12:36
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Elucidator 2023 年 8 月 28 日 上午 11:13 
E cores drop performance by a large portion.
Windows 11 with Intel Gen 12 CPU has a bug where inactive windows are run on e-cores only, causing steam downloading to slow down by a lot.

I think that intel should make a measurement statement about how fast e-cores are, because currently they seem like a joke that add little benefit for the gamer.

(for the bug, look for this: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/1027852/windows-11-22h2-thread-director-issues-with-intel?page=2#answers )
最後修改者:Elucidator; 2023 年 8 月 28 日 上午 11:19
ZAP 2023 年 8 月 28 日 上午 11:50 
I disable e-cores and use Win10. There's so many letters in use why not make a chip with no e-cores?

To this day 11 has problems. Maybe someone can help this guy out, about 11 and a 4070 in 3DMark https://steamcommunity.com/app/223850/discussions/0/3805031898649631071/
AbedsBrother 2023 年 8 月 28 日 下午 12:40 
now I don't feel so bad for still using 11th gen
A&A 2023 年 8 月 28 日 下午 1:04 
Manually set CPU affinity is the way to go with intel 12th and newer. Same with AMD's Zen 4c
Illusion of Progress 2023 年 8 月 28 日 下午 1:15 
引用自 Elucidator
I think that intel should make a measurement statement about how fast e-cores are, because currently they seem like a joke that add little benefit for the gamer.
They aren't there just for "gamers". They exist solely to boost multi-threading performance, because they're actually more space efficient than performance cores for that (meaning if you used the same space for performance cores, you'd get less collective performance).

That's why Intel "only" offers up to octo cores (they went up to 10 for a brief time before coming back down) and everything beyond that is just e-cores.

The use for more (than 8) performance cores usually comes with stuff that highly parallelizes well anyway, so I can't say I totally disagree with Intel's approach.

The only reason AMD hasn't jumped to this approach (yet) is because they were already offering up to 16 cores starting with Zen 2, so they only needed to keep increasing per core performance (and by time Zen 2 launched, they largely caught up here as well anyway). In the future, I can't see them adding only performance cores if many things don't need a massive amount of cores, and for the stuff that does scale linearly, lesser cores are more space efficient (which again means you actually get more performance for these things).

This approach actually can work well (the bugs such as with scheduling you mentioned notwithstanding, as those are actual issues).

I imagine hybrid is likely going to be the way forward, and that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Tiberius 2023 年 8 月 28 日 下午 4:29 
The next step is ai accelerated cpu. Then we have ai accelerated ram, then ai accelerated ssd, then ai accelerated mobo, psu, casing, and finally ai accelerated rgb
carl 2023 年 8 月 30 日 上午 1:02 
Anecdote, I see that the RX 7900XT is beginning to sell out with the main e-retailers in the UK. The free copy of Starfield promotion is probably having an effect.

The ASROCK phantom gaming OC model was at one point available for £699 with the premium version of Starfield worth £85. A killer deal but I didn't have the funds for it.

Is there any logic in purchasing the RX 7600 sapphire pulse for £250 just for a free copy of a game?
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Witski 2023 年 8 月 30 日 上午 1:12 
引用自 carl
Anecdote, I see that the RX 7900XT is beginning to sell out with the main e-retailers in the UK. The free copy of Starfield promotion is probably having an effect.

The ASROCK phantom gaming OC model was at one point available for £699 with the premium version of Starfield worth £85. A killer deal but I didn't have the funds for it.
Yet my sapphire nitro+ doesn't have the promotion and the cheaper version of the 7900 xtx does :( .
Rod 2023 年 8 月 30 日 上午 6:32 
Im still trying to get amd to give me the code without installing it. I bought the 7800x3d and planned a build later but apparantly you need to install and run a stupid tool to verify by a set date.
最後修改者:Rod; 2023 年 8 月 30 日 上午 6:33
AbedsBrother 2023 年 8 月 30 日 上午 7:03 
Yeah, AMD wants to verify that the hardware is installed before they give you the code. It was this way back when I bought my RX 470, so it's been this way for a while. It makes sense b/c it prevents people from buying gpus, getting the code, then returning the gpu - getting the promo game for free.
Overseer 2023 年 8 月 30 日 上午 7:12 
Or selling their code on junk platforms like the three letter one. Promo simply isn't meant for that. And since they know people intent to abuse it measures have been put in place. And it is a good deal considering you can buy a 200 USD 6600 and get a brand new 70 USD game for free.
carl 2023 年 9 月 1 日 下午 2:01 
Interesting to see early pc performance benchmarks for Starfield. Seems quite a demanding to run game without upscaling.
AbedsBrother 2023 年 9 月 1 日 下午 4:10 
6800XT seems to be the minimum for decent Starfield performance.
GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™ 2023 年 9 月 1 日 下午 5:37 
引用自 Rod
Im still trying to get amd to give me the code without installing it. I bought the 7800x3d and planned a build later but apparantly you need to install and run a stupid tool to verify by a set date.
You have to install it and you better do it quickly as there might be an expiration. I got starfield premium edition for free with my Rx 6700. I had to install it in order for AMD rewards to to activate the promotion.

However, you don't have to have it installed to download the promotional content. I'm using a totally different PC than I setup for the promotion.

I'm actually playing starfield with rtx 3050 and props to it for running this game like a champ! Yeah the rtx 3050 is no joke in starfield. Medium preset without even sweating hard. The 12600k be chillin out.

The Rx 6700 I want to try in my fx 9590 first. Then I'm going try starfield on there also.
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