Does QvL really matter?

[ˢᵈˣ FatCat]

So i have this occasionally Black screen Crash, some game work flawlessly, some will crash
Each time i send a support to Asus they blame me using RAM not on their list
Ok not blame like curse me blame ,more like, oh that RAM isnt on our QVL and stuff

Before i spend 200$ gamble, i need to know if that really matter

[_I_]

no

there are so many ram kits and board combos the mobo mfg cannot test them all

[r.linder]

As said above, no, because there's far too many kits to be tested, but for users who choose to play things as safe as possible, the QVL can be a valuable resource

[A&A]

RAM dies are made by Micron, Samsung or Hynix, although they don't have much choice and should be compatible.

[Tonepoet]

Realistically no. R.A.M. is R.A.M.

Using R.A.M. that's not on the Q.V.L. might void the manufacturer's warranty terms though.

Per Gigabyte's[member.aorus.com] website.

f) Damage caused by not using the provided manufacturers AC adapter and battery; Damage from use of materials, equipment not manufactured by GIGABYTE or not found in Qualified Vendor List(QVL) on GIGABYTE / AORUS website

Whether or not those provisions are lawful or not I am not sure. I suspect it's not per page 11 through 12 of this F.T.C. document regarding the Moss Ferguson Warranty Act[www.ftc.gov]"

The M.M.W.A. incorporates principles under Section 5 of the FTC Act that prohibit
warrantors from disseminating deceptive statements concerning warranty coverage. The
M.M.W.A. gives the Commission the authority to restrain a warrantor from making a
deceptive warranty, which is defined as a warranty that “fails to contain information
which is necessary in light of all of the circumstances, to make the warranty not
misleading to a reasonable individual exercising due care.”¹⁷ Thus, a warrantor would
violate the M.M.W.A. if its warranty led a reasonable consumer exercising due care to
believe that the warranty conditioned coverage “on the consumer’s use of an article or
service identified by brand, trade or corporate name unless that article or service is
provided without charge to the consumer.”¹⁸

Moreover, misstatements leading a consumer to believe that the consumer’s
warranty is void because a consumer used “unauthorized” parts or service may also be
deceptive under Section 5 of the F.T.C. Act.¹⁹ Specifically, claims by a warrantor that
create a false impression that a warranty would be void due to the use of unauthorized
parts or service may constitute a deceptive practice as outlined in the F.T.C. Policy
Statement on Deception: “The deception theory is based on the fact that most ads making
objective claims imply, and many expressly state, that an advertiser has certain specific grounds for the claims. If the advertiser does not, the consumer is acting under a false
impression. The consumer might have perceived the advertising differently had he or she
known the advertiser had no basis for the claim.”²⁰ A warrantor claiming or suggesting
that a warranty is void simply because a consumer used unauthorized parts or service
would have no basis for such a claim (absent a Commission waiver pursuant to Section
2302(c) of the Act). This is consistent with staff’s view, as expressed in recent opinion
letters, that misinformation and misleading statements in conjunction with warranty
coverage may be actionable.²¹

However, I'm not quite fully aware of all of the details regarding warranty law, and trying to claim legalistic rights can be more trouble than it's worth.

I probably wouldn't worry about it too much if the R.A.M. complies to the contemporaneously correct J.D.E.C. standard for the motherboard[www.crucial.com], but that might be limiting on the clockspeed of the R.A.M. if you were planning to use it in an overclock. I am not sure what the fastest J.D.E.C. standard R.A.M. is though.

[UserNotFound]

When I'd first built a 3900X + GB X570 Aorus Xtreme back in 2019, upgraded CPU to 5900X to 5700X3D, it didn't even occur to me to check with the QVL on the GB site/manual. Same goes with the 2nd rig I'd built with a GB X570S Aorus Elite AX + R9 5900X, I just got whatever RAM that was on sale or at a good price (to me anyway).

No issue whatsoever, I use the XMP profiles in the BIOS and ran with those, no problemo. As to whether these RAMs are running at maximum peak potential, I can't say, but I have no issue thus far.

[Jamebonds1]

It is probably a good idea to use RAM from QVL.

In my work, we have listed what it work with. Modified or no part number cables is not allow with equipment under test.

[UserNotFound]

Messaggio originale di Jamebonds1:

It is probably a good idea to use RAM from QVL.

In my work, we have listed what it work with. Modified or no part number cables is not allow with equipment under test.

I don't think anyone, including myself, is advocating that, when possible, a buyer NOT buy from the manufacturer's QVL. Rather, that it's not necessary, or that one should go out of the way to get RAM on the QVL is the gist. Sure, if you can find QVL RAM on Amazon or other online sites, go for it!

But, if finding such RAM is proving to be difficult, or costly, then a similar alternative should be fine. Only exception I'd concede is workstation systems where EEC RAM is required, and following QVL would be better for a more stable system.

[Defective Dopamine Pez Dispenser]

It depends on your situation, needs, and level of caution.

No in that you can easily just look up reviews and builds using various RAM kits (often not on the QVL) working fine with your respective components.

Yes in those cases where no or few such builds exist, or where a given board is known to be finicky and you want an extra level of assurance that at the very least the manufacturer has tested a given kit at specific speeds and timings using your processor family. This can also happen with less popular board options (server, EATX, etc. boards) where you may scour the web and find virtually nothing in terms of others builders' experiences with compatibility.

I tend to be extremely careful with component selection because I have a lot of health issues and the physical process of having to RMA things is quite the odyssey for me, it's not just a casual trip somewhere, it's an actual undertaking.

So on that basis, I try my best to find tested QVL list RAM (and to the extent possible, other components as well) that I also see others having successful and stable experiences with when choosing hardware I'm putting into my builds.

This has always served me well, but it's not strictly necessary. Generally, the longer a board has been out (especially for newer chipsets) and the more BIOS revisions it's had, the more likely you are to see broad "out of the box" stable compatibility and less reasons to worry much about it.