FPS drops since Windows 10

[Lukas]

Hello,

since I started using Windows 10, I have FPS drops in all games. Before I had Windows 8.1 and there were no problems.

I have a fairly old laptop that I bough about 10 years ago. I know, such an old laptop is generally not very suitable for gaming, but for the games I play, it is sufficient. I meet the system requirements of the corresponding games, because as I said they work normally on Windwos 8.1.

I also recently reinstalled Windows 10 cleanly and also installed the latest Windows updates, but no improvement. All drivers are installed as well, nothing is missing according to device manager. Apart from the graphics card driver, I have not installed any driver manually since I only get drivers for Windows 8.1 via the notebook manufacturer's site, but all drivers have been installed automatically by Windows. Previously, an older graphics card driver was installed by Windows, but it wasn't any better with that one. Only the default chipset driver is installed, as there is none for Windows 10, but I have heard that this should not be a problem.

I have done a lot of research but have not found a solution. For example, I disabled Game DVR / the Game Bar from Windows 10, but that didn't help either. My laptop has a dedicated graphics card. I could run an old game with low system requirements with my integrated graphics chip without any problems when I was still using Windows 8.1. Now it doesn't matter if I use the integrated graphics chip or the dedicated graphics card: in both cases I have FPS drops. Another game it affects is Left 4 Dead 2. When I'm just walking around in the game, I have no FPS drops, but as soon as I kill zombies, there are massive FPS drops.

Can it be due to any drivers or maybe my hardware generally doesn't cope with Windows 10? I have an Intel Core i5-3210M and a GeForce GT 635M. Since the problems exist with both the integrated graphics chip and the dedicated graphics card, I think it's due to a different driver or some setting in Windows 10 that doesn't exist in Windows 8.1.

I would switch back to Windows 8.1, but since there are no more security updates, that would obviously come with risks. However, I don't see any other solution, apart from buying a new device.

Do you have any other ideas how I can solve the problem?

Thanks in advance.

[emoticorpse]

can you go to userbenchmark.com and download their free program, run it (takes a couple minutes), then when it opens up a web page with the results can you copy that link to that page and paste it here?

[Lukas]

emoticorpse の投稿を引用：

can you go to userbenchmark.com and download their free program, run it (takes a couple minutes), then when it opens up a web page with the results can you copy that link to that page and paste it here?

Sure

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/59744365

The dedicated graphics card was apparently not checked.

[emoticorpse]

Lukas の投稿を引用：

emoticorpse の投稿を引用：

can you go to userbenchmark.com and download their free program, run it (takes a couple minutes), then when it opens up a web page with the results can you copy that link to that page and paste it here?

Sure

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/59744365

The dedicated graphics card was apparently not checked.

That might be a main issue. Did you download/install the video card drivers manually from the website?

[Lukas]

emoticorpse の投稿を引用：

Lukas の投稿を引用：

Sure

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/59744365

The dedicated graphics card was apparently not checked.

That might be a main issue. Did you download/install the video card drivers manually from the website?

Yes. I think the dedicated graphics card is only not recognized by the program because the integrated graphics chip is used in desktop mode and the dedicated graphics card is used in games.

[Julien, cut it out.]

Can you post a CPU-Z validation link?

[emoticorpse]

Lukas の投稿を引用：

emoticorpse の投稿を引用：

That might be a main issue. Did you download/install the video card drivers manually from the website?

Yes. I think the dedicated graphics card is only not recognized by the program because the integrated graphics chip is used in desktop mode and the dedicated graphics card is used in games.

I'm not too familiar with APU's or integrated graphics. Can you try to disable it? Windows 10 might be confused by it. I am assuming it would put a bit more load onto your actual GPU, but I don't know any other way to fix that.

can you try re-installing your drivers and see if it fixes it?

[Lukas]

emoticorpse の投稿を引用：

Lukas の投稿を引用：

Yes. I think the dedicated graphics card is only not recognized by the program because the integrated graphics chip is used in desktop mode and the dedicated graphics card is used in games.

I'm not too familiar with APU's or integrated graphics. Can you try to disable it? Windows 10 might be confused by it. I am assuming it would put a bit more load onto your actual GPU, but I don't know any other way to fix that.

can you try re-installing your drivers and see if it fixes it?

I don't think I can simply disable the integrated graphics chip. That is a normal procedure for laptops, that the integrated graphics chip is used in desktop mode and the dedicated graphics card is used for applications with higher requirements, such as games. As far as I know, this is a power-saving technique so that laptops with dedicated graphics cards do not have such high power consumption. NVIDIA's control panel takes care of this automatically. I can also use it to set for individual applications whether to use the integrated graphics chip or the dedicated graphics card.

I don't think reinstalling the graphics card driver will help. I just installed the driver yesterday. Before that, I was using an older version of the video card driver, which wasn't any better for games.

[Lukas]

Julien, cut it out. の投稿を引用：

Can you post a CPU-Z validation link?

How does it work? However, I don't think the CPU is causing problems, if the purpose of this is to find out. The problems occurred the very day I switched from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10.

[emoticorpse]

Lukas の投稿を引用：

emoticorpse の投稿を引用：

I'm not too familiar with APU's or integrated graphics. Can you try to disable it? Windows 10 might be confused by it. I am assuming it would put a bit more load onto your actual GPU, but I don't know any other way to fix that.

can you try re-installing your drivers and see if it fixes it?

I don't think I can simply disable the integrated graphics chip. That is a normal procedure for laptops, that the integrated graphics chip is used in desktop mode and the dedicated graphics card is used for applications with higher requirements, such as games. As far as I know, this is a power-saving technique so that laptops with dedicated graphics cards do not have such high power consumption. NVIDIA's control panel takes care of this automatically. I can also use it to set for individual applications whether to use the integrated graphics chip or the dedicated graphics card.

I don't think reinstalling the graphics card driver will help. I just installed the driver yesterday. Before that, I was using an older version of the video card driver, which wasn't any better for games.

Fair enough. Only thing i can say is that the userbenchmark results says there is a high background usage. Were you doing anything else when you ran the program? because if you left it alone so that it could take advantage of your hardware, something else was also utilizing your hardware interfering which could be the same thing interfering with your gaming.

[emoticorpse]

Lukas の投稿を引用：

Julien, cut it out. の投稿を引用：

Can you post a CPU-Z validation link?

How does it work? However, I don't think the CPU is causing problems, if the purpose of this is to find out. The problems occurred the very day I switched from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10.

Did you do an upgrade or a fresh install? if a fresh install where did you get your iso? from Microsoft site?

[Lukas]

emoticorpse の投稿を引用：

Lukas の投稿を引用：

I don't think I can simply disable the integrated graphics chip. That is a normal procedure for laptops, that the integrated graphics chip is used in desktop mode and the dedicated graphics card is used for applications with higher requirements, such as games. As far as I know, this is a power-saving technique so that laptops with dedicated graphics cards do not have such high power consumption. NVIDIA's control panel takes care of this automatically. I can also use it to set for individual applications whether to use the integrated graphics chip or the dedicated graphics card.

I don't think reinstalling the graphics card driver will help. I just installed the driver yesterday. Before that, I was using an older version of the video card driver, which wasn't any better for games.

Fair enough. Only thing i can say is that the userbenchmark results says there is a high background usage. Were you doing anything else when you ran the program? because if you left it alone so that it could take advantage of your hardware, something else was also utilizing your hardware interfering which could be the same thing interfering with your gaming.

I only had my browser open. I could run it again while I have everything closed.

[Lukas]

emoticorpse の投稿を引用：

Lukas の投稿を引用：

How does it work? However, I don't think the CPU is causing problems, if the purpose of this is to find out. The problems occurred the very day I switched from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10.

Did you do an upgrade or a fresh install? if a fresh install where did you get your iso? from Microsoft site?

Fresh install via a USB stick that I created with the Media Creation Tool. I have also deleted all partitions.

[emoticorpse]

Lukas の投稿を引用：

emoticorpse の投稿を引用：

Fair enough. Only thing i can say is that the userbenchmark results says there is a high background usage. Were you doing anything else when you ran the program? because if you left it alone so that it could take advantage of your hardware, something else was also utilizing your hardware interfering which could be the same thing interfering with your gaming.

I only had my browser open. I could run it again while I have everything closed.

I'd try it and see if that makes a difference in the results.

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

win 10 is kind of a piggy resource hog too so it might be doing useless background telelmetry sucking up your resources.

idk if 8 is closer to the sleek optimized win 7 or not

[Lukas]

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Lukas の投稿を引用：

I only had my browser open. I could run it again while I have everything closed.

I'd try it and see if that makes a difference in the results.

Now, curiously, the background usage was apparently even higher. But actually I don't have a high CPU usage. According to Task Manager, under 10 percent. I also don't think anything in the background is causing the problems.

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/59745184