FPS drops since Windows 10

[Lukas]

Hello,

since I started using Windows 10, I have FPS drops in all games. Before I had Windows 8.1 and there were no problems.

I have a fairly old laptop that I bough about 10 years ago. I know, such an old laptop is generally not very suitable for gaming, but for the games I play, it is sufficient. I meet the system requirements of the corresponding games, because as I said they work normally on Windwos 8.1.

I also recently reinstalled Windows 10 cleanly and also installed the latest Windows updates, but no improvement. All drivers are installed as well, nothing is missing according to device manager. Apart from the graphics card driver, I have not installed any driver manually since I only get drivers for Windows 8.1 via the notebook manufacturer's site, but all drivers have been installed automatically by Windows. Previously, an older graphics card driver was installed by Windows, but it wasn't any better with that one. Only the default chipset driver is installed, as there is none for Windows 10, but I have heard that this should not be a problem.

I have done a lot of research but have not found a solution. For example, I disabled Game DVR / the Game Bar from Windows 10, but that didn't help either. My laptop has a dedicated graphics card. I could run an old game with low system requirements with my integrated graphics chip without any problems when I was still using Windows 8.1. Now it doesn't matter if I use the integrated graphics chip or the dedicated graphics card: in both cases I have FPS drops. Another game it affects is Left 4 Dead 2. When I'm just walking around in the game, I have no FPS drops, but as soon as I kill zombies, there are massive FPS drops.

Can it be due to any drivers or maybe my hardware generally doesn't cope with Windows 10? I have an Intel Core i5-3210M and a GeForce GT 635M. Since the problems exist with both the integrated graphics chip and the dedicated graphics card, I think it's due to a different driver or some setting in Windows 10 that doesn't exist in Windows 8.1.

I would switch back to Windows 8.1, but since there are no more security updates, that would obviously come with risks. However, I don't see any other solution, apart from buying a new device.

Do you have any other ideas how I can solve the problem?

Thanks in advance.

[emoticorpse]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

No you do not. Win10 activates 100% free off of your legit Win8 key.

However if you going to dual boot, why not Win8.1 for Gaming and a Linux distro for Work and Web stuff.

There is ZERO point to have a dual boot with two WinOS'

Linux is a good idea dual booting for him

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Course I could see having a clean install of Win7 SP1 64bit; but Win8 any version is kind of trash. It's like a messy sandbox, before they decided what to actually do with WinOS, then they said yea lets move on, and made a better OS called Win10.

Win7 = the best parts of XP & Vista, but fixed bugs and runs well as a 64bit OS.
Win10 = the good parts of Win8/8.1 but robust, refined and more modernized. Much better support these days as well.

[Lukas]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

No you do not. Win10 activates 100% free off of your legit Win8 key.

However if you going to dual boot, why not Win8.1 for Gaming and a Linux distro for Work and Web stuff.

There is ZERO point to have a dual boot with two WinOS'

I've never worked with Linux and I don't think I could handle it. In general, I don't have much desire to work with a new operating system. As for licenses, I thought that I can not activate Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 at the same time with only one license.

[DonMcK]

Originally posted by Lukas:

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

There is ZERO point to have a dual boot with two WinOS'

+1

Have you installed a 32 bit or 64 bit version of Win 10?

WHat display driver version have you installed for the discrete graphics adapter?

[Lukas]

Originally posted by DonMcK:

Originally posted by Lukas:

+1

Have you installed a 32 bit or 64 bit version of Win 10?

WHat display driver version have you installed for the discrete graphics adapter?

64-Bit

The latest version 391.35 (GeForce GT 635M)

[DonMcK]

Originally posted by Lukas:

Originally posted by DonMcK:

+1

Have you installed a 32 bit or 64 bit version of Win 10?

WHat display driver version have you installed for the discrete graphics adapter?

64-Bit

The latest version 391.35 (GeForce GT 635M)

Have you set the NVidia GPU as the preferred adapter in NVidia Control Panel?

[Lukas]

Originally posted by DonMcK:

Originally posted by Lukas:

64-Bit

The latest version 391.35 (GeForce GT 635M)

Have you set the NVidia GPU as the preferred adapter in NVidia Control Panel?

No, because the dedicated graphics card (NVIDIA) is automatically used for games. But I had changed it to that the card is always used, but that didn't change anything either.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Originally posted by Lukas:

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

No you do not. Win10 activates 100% free off of your legit Win8 key.

However if you going to dual boot, why not Win8.1 for Gaming and a Linux distro for Work and Web stuff.

There is ZERO point to have a dual boot with two WinOS'

I've never worked with Linux and I don't think I could handle it. In general, I don't have much desire to work with a new operating system. As for licenses, I thought that I can not activate Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 at the same time with only one license.

They can be on the same machine at the same time. As long as only one is being used at any given time is really the only rule. But even if you had two different machines you could technically do that. If one stayed on Win8.1 and then use that key to activate Win10 free on another machine. So it works the same way when you have two drives or a dual boot with 8.1 and 10 using the same key. Also once 10 is activated that gives another free option, Win11.

[Lukas]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Originally posted by Lukas:

I've never worked with Linux and I don't think I could handle it. In general, I don't have much desire to work with a new operating system. As for licenses, I thought that I can not activate Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 at the same time with only one license.

They can be on the same machine at the same time. As long as only one is being used at any given time is really the only rule. But even if you had two different machines you could technically do that. If one stayed on Win8.1 and then use that key to activate Win10 free on another machine. So it works the same way when you have two drives or a dual boot with 8.1 and 10 using the same key. Also once 10 is activated that gives another free option, Win11.

Thanks. I have now installed Windows 8.1 via dual boot by creating another partition on my hard drive. With Windows 8.1, I will only install games. Firefox is also installed, but with it I only open a known website. I think I do not then have to worry about the lack of Windows updates, right? I have also already tried a game and it works as usual again.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

I guess you plan to only play "old" games then?

[Lukas]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

I guess you plan to only play "old" games then?

Currently Left 4 Dead 2, Borderlands and San Andreas. It doesn't matter how old the games are. With Windows 10 I had FPS drops in every game and with Windows 8.1 it works great.

[Elucidator]

Originally posted by Lukas:

Possible. I would like to continue using Windows 8.1 while I still have the current device, but I think it is too risky because of the lack of security updates.

What do you need security updates for OP?

Common sense is the best security; you are the biggest risk to your system's security.

You access the internet by browser, so-- all you need is a good secure browser environment. (adblocker, suspicious link blocker, etc.)
firefox with a few addons will do that. Chrome will do it less effectively. Tor browser will do it, etc.

You can also use a Pi-Hole, blocks all weird links.

Next you use an antivirus scanner and if you come across a strange file on discord or whatever, scan the file before opening it.
Even if windows doesn't update, exploits in a program are often labeled malware so, no need to worry.
Get the virusscan up front, and you're safe.


You're a home user I assume, not someone with a very interesting set of servers on your network so no need to worry too much about not having the latest exploit fixes.


Edit: but seriously if WIndows 8.1 works great for you and windows 10 doesn't, keep 8.1
Updating is unnessecary. 8.1 is pretty decently secured and fast.

People know how bad windows 10 eats, and windows 11 eats, so they make customized versions of the OS. (without bloatware, etc.)
You could try such a version if you really want to, but do know that usually all of them have Windows Update disabled (for reasons). xd
Relax with your windows. So long you browse the internet well, you don't need to worry at all.

[Lupinus Rictus]

If you haven't already then tweaking windows 10 makes a night and day difference in speed and responsiveness

[Lukas]

Originally posted by Elucidator:

Originally posted by Lukas:

Possible. I would like to continue using Windows 8.1 while I still have the current device, but I think it is too risky because of the lack of security updates.

What do you need security updates for OP?

Common sense is the best security; you are the biggest risk to your system's security.

You access the internet by browser, so-- all you need is a good secure browser environment. (adblocker, suspicious link blocker, etc.)
firefox with a few addons will do that. Chrome will do it less effectively. Tor browser will do it, etc.

You can also use a Pi-Hole, blocks all weird links.

Next you use an antivirus scanner and if you come across a strange file on discord or whatever, scan the file before opening it.
Even if windows doesn't update, exploits in a program are often labeled malware so, no need to worry.
Get the virus up front, and you're safe.


You're a home user I assume, not someone with a very interesting set of servers on your network so no need to worry too much about not having the latest exploit fixes.


Edit: but seriously if WIndows 8.1 works great for you and windows 10 doesn't, keep 8.1
Updating is unnessecary. 8.1 is pretty decently secured and fast.

People know how bad windows 10 eats, and windows 11 eats, so they make customized versions of the OS. (without bloatware, etc.)
You could try such a version if you really want to, but do know that usually all of them have Windows Update disabled (for reasons). xd
Relax with your windows. So long you browse the internet well, you don't need to worry at all.

I actually also wonder if the risk is really that great that something will happen without security updates. I mean, how could it happen that a security hole is exploited? I don't open dubious links, download all my programs from the manufacturer's site, ... I am generally not inexperienced in the use of the PC. But in a computer forum I was advised to stop using Windows 8.1 because of the lack of updates.

[emoticorpse]

Originally posted by Lukas:

Originally posted by Elucidator:

What do you need security updates for OP?

Common sense is the best security; you are the biggest risk to your system's security.

You access the internet by browser, so-- all you need is a good secure browser environment. (adblocker, suspicious link blocker, etc.)
firefox with a few addons will do that. Chrome will do it less effectively. Tor browser will do it, etc.

You can also use a Pi-Hole, blocks all weird links.

Next you use an antivirus scanner and if you come across a strange file on discord or whatever, scan the file before opening it.
Even if windows doesn't update, exploits in a program are often labeled malware so, no need to worry.
Get the virus up front, and you're safe.


You're a home user I assume, not someone with a very interesting set of servers on your network so no need to worry too much about not having the latest exploit fixes.


Edit: but seriously if WIndows 8.1 works great for you and windows 10 doesn't, keep 8.1
Updating is unnessecary. 8.1 is pretty decently secured and fast.

People know how bad windows 10 eats, and windows 11 eats, so they make customized versions of the OS. (without bloatware, etc.)
You could try such a version if you really want to, but do know that usually all of them have Windows Update disabled (for reasons). xd
Relax with your windows. So long you browse the internet well, you don't need to worry at all.

I actually also wonder if the risk is really that great that something will happen without security updates. I mean, how could it happen that a security hole is exploited? I don't open dubious links, download all my programs from the manufacturer's site, ... I am generally not inexperienced in the use of the PC. But in a computer forum I was advised to stop using Windows 8.1 because of the lack of updates.

How old are you? I'm constantly bring up the "blaster worm" because that was crazy and it involved exactly what you're asking. This seriously screwed over a lot of pc's and I saw this for myself.

I mean LITERALLY after a fresh install just after first boot, you got it. Didn't have to click anything, didn't have to do anything. It came to you, like pizza delivery and you couldn't do much about it. This is when I learned about using a firewall to block it. And this was when Windows XP was the newest hottest thing out from MS.

I have a feeling you had to go through this to appreciate it.