Saply Oct 9, 2016 @ 12:12am
Does the SSD or processor improve web browsing
Just a quick question because my laptop seriously lags when browsing with extra tabs or a Youtube video in another tab

I cant tell if its my super slow HDD that takes 3-5 minutes to open my computer and another 2-3 minutes to open a single application after opening or the AMD A8-6410 processor that runs Minecraft at around 30-40 FPS on low :bbtcat:
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WarmedxMints Oct 9, 2016 @ 12:28am 
Combination of both. An SSD will help with application load times but doesn't make a processor run any faster.
Bad 💀 Motha Oct 9, 2016 @ 12:41am 
CPU, RAM, and Drive speed; all counts, especially if you are on maybe 4GB RAM using 7/8.1/10. You want 6-8GB for those; 16GB for Gaming Laptop that is 1080p or higher.

Yea use SSD for OS Drive; and never buy Laptops with AMD

Even with your specs, changing out the HDD (if only allows one drive) for an SSD would really help out alot. It's like night & day; even in older Laptops customers bring me that are really old; like Intel Core 2 Duo mobile (and we all know those older Intel GPUs are even worse then many AMD ones) and putting an SSD in there and doing a clean OS install really helped out alot. The laptap that took forever every time you clicked around, now had a fairly seamlessly smooth experience. Even if its an older laptop with SATA-II; a SATA-III SSD will still be a good boost.
Last edited by Bad 💀 Motha; Oct 9, 2016 @ 12:42am
JohnnSy Oct 9, 2016 @ 3:13am 
Yes. SSD will make it tum much better and faster. HDD are bottlenecks for all pc.
I dont know about yor cpu performance (and i will not google it) but I doubt that bigger bottleneck than hdd.

I got 10 years old notebook Acer Extensa 5620g with an intel core 2 duo 1.8 ghz proccesor and 4 GB Ram and after I upgraded to ssd i can browse internet (using chrome) wery well and I have have many tabs open all time. Windows 10 boots in max 20 sec. Ram usage for browsing dont go over 3 Gb.

So Ssd upgrade is pretty cheap and bring biggest boost of performace. And I would buy atleadt 120 Gb.
Go here:
https://webkit.org/perf/sunspider-1.0.2/sunspider-1.0.2/driver.html

If it scores slower than say 400ms to 425ms then it is most likely a CPU bottleneck, otherwise look at getting 4GB to 6GB or more of RAM and an SSD.

I'd also suggest a fast AntiVirus, such as VIPRE, not bloat ware like Norton or Trend Micro have become as this will speed up web browsing with hundreds of objects significantly.

:steamhappy:

These are the results for an iPad Pro 12.9"

☀SunSpider 1.0.2 JavaScript Benchmark Results
Content Version: sunspider-1.0.2
============================================
RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)
--------------------------------------------
Total: 180.7ms +/- 2.0%
--------------------------------------------

3d: 28.4ms +/- 4.5%
cube: 11.5ms +/- 7.9%
morph: 8.2ms +/- 5.5%
raytrace: 8.7ms +/- 7.8%

access: 23.0ms +/- 11.9%
binary-trees: 2.9ms +/- 7.8%
fannkuch: 9.6ms +/- 8.7%
nbody: 7.5ms +/- 35.4%
nsieve: 3.0ms +/- 0.0%

bitops: 13.4ms +/- 2.8%
3bit-bits-in-byte: 1.2ms +/- 25.1%
bits-in-byte: 4.0ms +/- 0.0%
bitwise-and: 3.0ms +/- 0.0%
nsieve-bits: 5.2ms +/- 5.8%

controlflow: 2.5ms +/- 15.1%
recursive: 2.5ms +/- 15.1%

crypto: 15.8ms +/- 7.0%
aes: 8.2ms +/- 13.5%
md5: 4.3ms +/- 15.8%
sha1: 3.3ms +/- 10.5%

date: 17.5ms +/- 4.0%
format-tofte: 10.3ms +/- 4.7%
format-xparb: 7.2ms +/- 4.2%

math: 13.5ms +/- 4.5%
cordic: 5.0ms +/- 0.0%
partial-sums: 6.0ms +/- 0.0%
spectral-norm: 2.5ms +/- 24.3%

regexp: 8.1ms +/- 2.8%
dna: 8.1ms +/- 2.8%

string: 58.5ms +/- 3.1%
base64: 6.0ms +/- 0.0%
fasta: 8.0ms +/- 0.0%
tagcloud: 11.2ms +/- 9.4%
unpack-code: 26.7ms +/- 2.5%
validate-input: 6.6ms +/- 5.6%


But seriously, any slower than 400-425 milliseconds and your CPU is holding your web surfing back considerably.
Last edited by [wan-clan.org] Gordy Freeman; Oct 9, 2016 @ 3:22am
JohnnSy Oct 9, 2016 @ 3:20am 
Originally posted by Gordy:
Go here:
https://webkit.org/perf/sunspider-1.0.2/sunspider-1.0.2/driver.html

If it scores slower than say 400ms then it is most likely a CPU bottleneck, otherwise look at getting 6GB or more of RAM and an SSD.

I'd also suggest a fast AntiVirus, such as VIPRE, not bloat ware like Norton or Trend Micro have become as this will speed up web browsing with hundreds of objects significantly.

:steamhappy:

I got 4gb ram windows 10 64 bit and I can open 30+ tabs with no problem.

And whats bad about windows defender ?
I never said Windows Defender is bad, just certain bloatware AntiVirus.
Bad 💀 Motha Oct 9, 2016 @ 3:25am 
Defender is bloatware; it does nothing for catching bad stuff.

But then again, installing a good AV, that will disable Defender anyways.

Malwarebytes Anti-Malware Premium is also good; but that by itself won't disable Defender, since that can work together with most AV suites, without conflict as another realtime protection.
Hare+Guu! Oct 9, 2016 @ 4:02am 
CPU and ram are the only ones that matters. CPU is pretty obvious, but more ram = can open more tabs at once + use ramdisk as cache for no perfomance loss.
JohnnSy Oct 9, 2016 @ 5:07am 
Originally posted by Hare+Guu!:
CPU and ram are the only ones that matters. CPU is pretty obvious, but more ram = can open more tabs at once + use ramdisk as cache for no perfomance loss.

that is no true.
do you have ssd?
have you tried swap slow 5400rpm hd to ssd?

i have 4 gb ram and never had isue with ipened tabs
The browser cache goes on SSD. the CPU will afffect it most if you create a RAM drive and place temp cache files on the RAM drive, also saves life of SSD since less writes
rotNdude Oct 9, 2016 @ 9:57am 
Post your complete computer specs and we'll tell you why your computer may be having issues.
Hare+Guu! Oct 9, 2016 @ 3:12pm 
Originally posted by JohnnSy:
Originally posted by Hare+Guu!:
CPU and ram are the only ones that matters. CPU is pretty obvious, but more ram = can open more tabs at once + use ramdisk as cache for no perfomance loss.

that is no true.
do you have ssd?
have you tried swap slow 5400rpm hd to ssd?

i have 4 gb ram and never had isue with ipened tabs
Have you ever used a ramdisk before? No, then go away.
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 Oct 9, 2016 @ 3:39pm 
There is a number of things that can cause slow down. I list some for you.

> You open up too many tabs that using all your RAM.
> Using 5400rpm HDD or failing/dying HDD
> APU, is under heavy load, or is over heating.
> Almost out of space on HDD
> To many things running at once, with the web browser.

For the slow boot up.
I think it might be the HDD you have is a 5400rpm, a 7200rpm is way faster, and same price of those drives, which will only cut your boot up time up to about half or less. SSD will cut it down for sure taking about 30 seconds to boot up, now doesn't mean it will give you better FPS in games, unless you were using 5400rpm which you only gain only a bit more FPS, due to the APU you're using isn't so great. I'm guessing you're using the APU as your display as well correct?
Originally posted by Dr.Shadowds:
There is a number of things that can cause slow down. I list some for you.

> You open up too many tabs that using all your RAM.
> Using 5400rpm HDD or failing/dying HDD
> APU, is under heavy load, or is over heating.
> Almost out of space on HDD
> To many things running at once, with the web browser.

For the slow boot up.
I think it might be the HDD you have is a 5400rpm, a 7200rpm is way faster, and same price of those drives, which will only cut your boot up time up to about half or less. SSD will cut it down for sure taking about 30 seconds to boot up, now doesn't mean it will give you better FPS in games, unless you were using 5400rpm which you only gain only a bit more FPS, due to the APU you're using isn't so great. I'm guessing you're using the APU as your display as well correct?
As long as they have enough cache, drive speed is negligent. Yes a black or gold are faster, but I dont see a green with 32 or 64 megs not enough
JohnnSy Oct 9, 2016 @ 4:11pm 
Originally posted by Hare+Guu!:
Originally posted by JohnnSy:

that is no true.
do you have ssd?
have you tried swap slow 5400rpm hd to ssd?

i have 4 gb ram and never had isue with ipened tabs
Have you ever used a ramdisk before? No, then go away.

yes i used ram disk...
but difference in browsing web is not big deal betwen ram disk and ssd

and ssd used today can handle cache and temp on them

if op wants faster web browsing, computer start ups and aplications starting than ssd is righ choise (everything fells faster)

if he wants a little better fps in games and he has a apu with integrated graphics FASTER ram would help a little bit

and I am not sure if he can upgrade his cpu (it is a notebook?) an if it is a little compicated

I would go for ssd.
When I use computers with no ssd they feel so slow
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