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I hate my life.
1080 used for $150.... new still running like $900 to $1100 (range depending on brand/ect..)
guessing ebay for that used $700 3080?
new 3080's are still running $800-$1700 (range depending on brand/ect..)
i mean the prices are coming down, but they arent there yet.
my specific 1080 (asus rog strix A8G 1080) is still running for $900 new (was up to $1200+), when it should be $600 or lower, i paid $600 (years ago).
as for the used and now noticing china being referenced, personally used is bad enough, but used from china? your most likely paying a bundle for the shipping alone and $700 is way to much for a used (likely heavily used) 3080...
But I'm not sure why this has people thinking the overall market is, and has been for some time, below MSRP when it's more the opposite. The lower end SKUs (in this case, the mid-range parts like the RTX 3060, RTX 3060 Ti, and RTX 3070) are often still selling for slightly above MSRP. The RTX 3060 often sits around the RTX 3060 Ti MSRP, and RTX 3060 Ti sells for around RTX 3070 pricing, and the RTX 3070 is a bit above that.
Only the very high end cards are below MSRP, and there's a simple reason for this; supply and demand. nVidia likely has more supply of these higher end SKUs relative to current demand. The reason this oversupply even exists is because anything at all sold during the cryptocurrency impacted market, so they focused their production efforts on higher end SKUs (as those represent higher profit margins). Then... the cryptocurrency crashed happened, and nVidia was left with an emphasized supply of higher SKU parts. That's precisely why the aforementioned promotion is a thing. But that's only for certain models. the "majority" of the market (in terms of buyers) is still looking at prices slightly above MSRP.
The other consideration is the high end SKUs are going to be replaced sooner (a new series often starts with higher end SKUs and lower ones are added later), so there's more pressure to clear this current oversupply. There's rumors the AIBs are asking for a delay to the RTX 4000 series and that it might be pushed back to where only the RTX 4090 releases this year (instead of the original rumors that the RTX 4090, 4080, and 4070 might release this year). The proper mid-range like the RTX 4060 was probably always not due until next year though.
On top of all this, nVidia has an order in place with TSMC for a certain amount of production and TSMC isn't willing to budge much on nVidia wanting to change, scale back, or delay that order. This order was made back when production time was in demand and the effects of cryptocurrency were still driving the market, and now that they're not, nVidia has all this supply, yet at the same time a huge cost already sunk into a TSMC order that needs to start being fulfilled. Yikes.
And I feel absolutely zero sympathy for them, as a gamer who was left with no options in the market of the last year and a half.
Look at the actual performance of the gpus and if you are willing to pay current prices for one. That's all there is to it.
Upcoming cpus and gpus are all going to be marked up alot higher anyways, so get used it. The days of building a high end PC for around 1500 or less are over.
These places, even after GPUs are marked up will still sell you the GPU at MSRP... You'll just be buying a whole computer but if you're enough generations behind on stuff like older CPU, slower RAM, etc then it's definitely worth checking out. Often have very good warranties too if anything goes wrong with any part.
Also best sales are end of November on Black Friday.
I know where to get discounts.
However the average consumer, especially in other countries can't get such discounts. Smaller countries, especially in Africa or Europe they don't see lowered prices quickly like North America and Asia.
Maybe I'm just making more money. Maybe I just don't care. Or maybe the long game where hardware just costs a lot has worn me down to acceptance. I'm probably not the only one. having the sweet spot GPU be in the $200-$300 range was nice, but I fear those days are gone.
I'm basically a firm mid-range buyer, who balked at the price hike to $400 for the x60 tier in 2019 (in 2022 after a couple years of inflation, I'd complain less) relative to the $249 it used to be, and now that things are down near MSRP after a year and a half of a cryptocurrency market, the high end gets the price cuts, and the mid-range is still overpriced. I mean, I know why. But the facts are, the mid-range, even after the cryptocurrency price craziness, is still in a rather poor spot price/value wise.
It's probably not just you, because It's tempting me, a pretty darned cost conscious person, to look at the RTX 3070 Ti to RTX 3080 because the RTX 4060 is likely going to come so long from now (and be slower than the RTX 3080 probably), and the RTX 4070 is my other option (which I feel will be better than the RTX 3080 in terms of speed, power, and cost, but will require waiting an indefinite amount of time for). These are usually quite a bit higher than I'd spend, but you already have to spend up for the mid-range, and those right now represent a poor value. It's been almost six years since I upgraded.