Who plays at what Hz?

[pauldiazberrio]

I've mentioned that my preferred frame rate is as close to 125 as I can get it. I understand that the higher the frame rate, the smoother the image. I also understand that response times and mouse movements are far superior, allowing players to react better to dynamic situations.

Now, for a long time, 60 Hz was the norm. Nowadays, the highest possible are the better. Competitive players aim for 120-144hz. I am one of them, having realized my gaming experiences are better at 125 FPS, or as close as I get get to it. If I can play at 144 with classic games, I aim for it, too.

With that in mind, please enlighten me a little. What kind of gamers play at the following fps...

60
75
85
90
100

[crunchyfrog]

pauldiazberrio lähetti viestin:

RoyalKin lähetti viestin:

I run at 144 and get like 2k to 10k fps.

Amazing. How do you accomplish this? Do you get any tearing?

Well, you can use vsync (or the other type of sync I can't remember the name of).

In those examples you can set your frequency to what you wish and it waill adjust on the fly to stop screen tearing.

[pauldiazberrio]

crunchyfrog lähetti viestin:

pauldiazberrio lähetti viestin:

Amazing. How do you accomplish this? Do you get any tearing?

Well, you can use vsync (or the other type of sync I can't remember the name of).

In those examples you can set your frequency to what you wish and it waill adjust on the fly to stop screen tearing.

Okay. I'll keep this in mind.

In hindsight of how I like to play games at up to 125 Hz, I'd like to understand why there are refresh rates that operate on milisecond rounding of 1-3 decimal lower than a round one or .66 above it, as in the case of 60hz. I understand the mathematical equations of 165, 200 250 and 500, as they have milisecond outputs of even numbers, but 120 and 144 confuse me. Does it not make more sense to use whole numbers for milisecond processing?

[Randy Marsh]

1080p 144hz, it's reasonable cheap for it's price range.

Typically 1080p 60hz monitors costs: below $100

1080p 144hz can costs around: $150

144hz is totally worth it at that price range, if you're looking for a new monitor.

[crunchyfrog]

pauldiazberrio lähetti viestin:

crunchyfrog lähetti viestin:

Well, you can use vsync (or the other type of sync I can't remember the name of).

In those examples you can set your frequency to what you wish and it waill adjust on the fly to stop screen tearing.

Okay. I'll keep this in mind.

In hindsight of how I like to play games at up to 125 Hz, I'd like to understand why there are refresh rates that operate on milisecond rounding of 1-3 decimal lower than a round one or .66 above it, as in the case of 60hz. I understand the mathematical equations of 165, 200 250 and 500, as they have milisecond outputs of even numbers, but 120 and 144 confuse me. Does it not make more sense to use whole numbers for milisecond processing?

Again don't get hung up on the numbers. If you don't understand something, just leave it there. It's there for a reason. That's all you need to know.

And as such these things are for performance reasons - not stuff YOU can necessarily notice your end, but to help the system work with the display.

It's not markedly different to how audio systems have internal management in regard to chains of bits for the digital audio stream. Nothing you could ever hear, but it makes things run better.

[76561198343548661]

@psn_susnjara , a monitor 144Hz monitor might not be expensive but the GPU ?!

[Randy Marsh]

littlecat20160 lähetti viestin:

@psn_susnjara , a monitor 144Hz monitor might not be expensive but the GPU ?!

Depends on what games are going to be played? You can get away with an APU for some ESPORT games.

GPU's can be found used cheap, if you keep a lookout. Forget about getting new LOL.

I bought a used GTX 1070 for $250 and works fine.

[76561198343548661]

@psn_susnjara , GTX 1070 cant deliver 144FPS on a modern game unless everything is at low .

[HALO_run]

i normally keep to 60hzs as that's my screens max but at times i dip it so i can play halo at max 5\4 75hz, just like old times :D

but don't really see the point of it i can kill a player running far higher hzs and he still called what i run at rubbish, but i still keep killing him so there's that

i have meany game so i can never say just one, but if it comes to heavy games 7 days to die comes to mind super builds tank the fps down to 50 to 35 max settings 64 horde night :D

[crunchyfrog]

psn_susnjara lähetti viestin:

littlecat20160 lähetti viestin:

@psn_susnjara , a monitor 144Hz monitor might not be expensive but the GPU ?!

Depends on what games are going to be played? You can get away with an APU for some ESPORT games.

GPU's can be found used cheap, if you keep a lookout. Forget about getting new LOL.

I bought a used GTX 1070 for $250 and works fine.

I use a laptop with a 1050 - not the same buit not THAT far off.

You aren't going to get anywhere near 144Hz with that. Not on any remotely recent game.

Sorry but you can say it's fine for gaming and quite acceptable, but you can't claim to get those sort of performances.

[Guydodge]

psn_susnjara lähetti viestin:

littlecat20160 lähetti viestin:

@psn_susnjara , a monitor 144Hz monitor might not be expensive but the GPU ?!

Depends on what games are going to be played? You can get away with an APU for some ESPORT games.

GPU's can be found used cheap, if you keep a lookout. Forget about getting new LOL.

I bought a used GTX 1070 for $250 and works fine.

this has definitely changed GPU are now at msrp my buddy just picked up a evga 3080ti
off amazon at below MSRP and im constantly seeing them pop up in my email for MSRP
the last few weeks.

[crunchyfrog]

Guydodge lähetti viestin:

psn_susnjara lähetti viestin:

Depends on what games are going to be played? You can get away with an APU for some ESPORT games.

GPU's can be found used cheap, if you keep a lookout. Forget about getting new LOL.

I bought a used GTX 1070 for $250 and works fine.

this has definitely changed GPU are now at msrp my buddy just picked up a evga 3080ti
off amazon at below MSRP and im constantly seeing them pop up in my email for MSRP
the last few weeks.

Depends where you are though.

Though things are moving a bit at the moment that doesn't mean everywhere is gettnig the same service. And furthermore this may be a brief blip as the Ukraine conflict, if it carries on much more, will also have a WORSE effect, so it might be in the next few months things get evern worse.

You know why? Guess where 90% of the world's neon comes from? And guess what neon is used in manufacturing? Chips.

[Guydodge]

crunchyfrog lähetti viestin:

Guydodge lähetti viestin:

this has definitely changed GPU are now at msrp my buddy just picked up a evga 3080ti
off amazon at below MSRP and im constantly seeing them pop up in my email for MSRP
the last few weeks.

Depends where you are though.

Though things are moving a bit at the moment that doesn't mean everywhere is gettnig the same service. And furthermore this may be a brief blip as the Ukraine conflict, if it carries on much more, will also have a WORSE effect, so it might be in the next few months things get evern worse.

You know why? Guess where 90% of the world's neon comes from? And guess what neon is used in manufacturing? Chips.

i understand why,and on that same note dont believe everything the media spews.a large portion of all media and government reports are fabricated.

[Illusion of Progress]

crunchyfrog lähetti viestin:

psn_susnjara lähetti viestin:

Depends on what games are going to be played? You can get away with an APU for some ESPORT games.

GPU's can be found used cheap, if you keep a lookout. Forget about getting new LOL.

I bought a used GTX 1070 for $250 and works fine.

I use a laptop with a 1050 - not the same buit not THAT far off.

A GTX 1050 is roughly half as fast as a GTX 1060, let alone a GTX 1070, so I wouldn't say they aren't that far apart just because all of them may pale in comparison to much newer, faster options. There's still a rather substantial difference between a GTX 1050 and a GTX 1070.

This is to say nothing of the fact that laptop models are typically slower than desktop models (and might have slower CPU/RAM behind them). You can't really use your laptop as a good reference for the performance of a desktop GTX 1070.

[Randy Marsh]

Illusion of Progress lähetti viestin:

crunchyfrog lähetti viestin:

I use a laptop with a 1050 - not the same buit not THAT far off.

A GTX 1050 is roughly half as fast as a GTX 1060, let alone a GTX 1070, so I wouldn't say they aren't that far apart just because all of them may pale in comparison to much newer, faster options. There's still a rather substantial difference between a GTX 1050 and a GTX 1070.

This is to say nothing of the fact that laptop models are typically slower than desktop models (and might have slower CPU/RAM behind them). You can't really use your laptop as a good reference for the performance of a desktop GTX 1070.

Exactly GTX 1050 Mobile (Which Laptops use) is way low performance than the desktop GTX 1050. Huge differences.

A good comparison of the GTX 1070 would be the GTX 980 Ti. Almost equal performance wise.

[pauldiazberrio]

When do you stop noticing stutters and lagging in frame refresh rate? Many say they can't at 144hz. Asus makes that claim too and one source even days we can't see images any smoother than the most they can be at 500 Hz. What's the truth of the matter?