Who plays at what Hz?

[pauldiazberrio]

I've mentioned that my preferred frame rate is as close to 125 as I can get it. I understand that the higher the frame rate, the smoother the image. I also understand that response times and mouse movements are far superior, allowing players to react better to dynamic situations.

Now, for a long time, 60 Hz was the norm. Nowadays, the highest possible are the better. Competitive players aim for 120-144hz. I am one of them, having realized my gaming experiences are better at 125 FPS, or as close as I get get to it. If I can play at 144 with classic games, I aim for it, too.

With that in mind, please enlighten me a little. What kind of gamers play at the following fps...

60
75
85
90
100

[pauldiazberrio]

Recently, I've found that 90-100hz is the lowest I can go and not feel uncomfortable with. Something about those two number balances my fan temperatures and framerate the best when I play games up to 2015. My GPU temperature either stays at around the high sixties or hits 70 degrees celsius on occasion. In the current games I have to lower resolution and settings to get up to 90 fps, but more and more, I feel that is necessary to have a good experience.

By the way, is it true what they say that stuttering and lags stop at 90hz?

[HALO_run]

all games at 60fps don't need higher

[Out Of Bubblegum]

Anything above 20 is just a blur.

[ZeekAncient]

I hate this thread. And threads like it, lol. Currently stuck at 60Hz, and it makes me want to go out and spend money on a high refresh rate display right now. But I am good.

It is at 4K, and 60fps is my goal. So 60Hz will have to do. Eventually I will have a higher refresh rate again. But it will probably be with a 4K OLED. So my goal will still be 60fps. Just it will be at 120Hz.

Right now, 60Hz is fine. Everything is locked at 60fps, and still looks smooth to me. I don't know. I find I don't really notice much above 60fps. It all looks smooth. But I do notice anything below 60.

Who knows, maybe when I am back to 120Hz I will say everything at 60Hz looked like a slideshow, but right now I don't have a choice. I enjoy playing on my large screen. Everything looks super crisp and clear, and I enjoy my experience. That is all that matters.

[ZanyScum]

Postat inițial de The:

I don't get this competitive talk. Back in the day I won in most deathmatches and killed all in Counterstrike on very basic hardware. I guess this was before billionaire marketing where RGB lights are now meant to improve your game performance.

You don't believe in RGB lights? You will be burnt to death! Nobody will discuss serious things with you!
How about holes in jeans? At least you have some holes in your jeans, right? To be cool and "in"!

You need it! Everyone needs it!

[crunchyfrog]

Postat inițial de The:

I don't get this competitive talk. Back in the day I won in most deathmatches and killed all in Counterstrike on very basic hardware. I guess this was before billionaire marketing where RGB lights are now meant to improve your game performance.

Ah now the issue here is that this is one of those issue of "tech envy".

Where you get hung up on the stats beyond any reason. Focusing on the numbers instead of the results. In the audio industry it's VERY common. People will swear an expensive thing is better because they believe the marketing claims. They never seem to listen to their ears though.

The reality here is that there will never be anything like an objective answer for this question as it entirely depends on the person, the game, the setup, hell even things like their local power supply and the lights in their room.

I've seen people run all sorts of framerates and compain about flickering and it turned out the LED lamps there were using in their room created enough of a interference with the framerate they were using in game. Changed the bulbs and all was good.

The trick is to ignore numbers, and simply look at what you think is acceptable and simply take that. After all, all that matters is gameplay.

[Bing Chilling]

30 is "playable" but honestly i don't like playing like that
60 is alright, my personal absolute minimum that i'll play on
75 is actually alot smoother compared to 60
100 is great and ideally what i aim for with graphics vs framerate
120 isn't a ton better then 100 but it's noticeable and if i can reach it ill go there
144 basically feels the same as 120 not much difference but again ill play at it if i can
165 feels no different then 144
same goes with anything higher
i'v used a 240hz monitor before and i literally couldn't tell the difference from my 165hz monitor

never tried 360hz but i would assume it's the same story

[ZeekAncient]

Postat inițial de crunchyfrog:

Ah now the issue here is that this is one of those issue of "tech envy".

Where you get hung up on the stats beyond any reason. Focusing on the numbers instead of the results. In the audio industry it's VERY common. People will swear an expensive thing is better because they believe the marketing claims. They never seem to listen to their ears though.

The reality here is that there will never be anything like an objective answer for this question as it entirely depends on the person, the game, the setup, hell even things like their local power supply and the lights in their room.

I've seen people run all sorts of framerates and compain about flickering and it turned out the LED lamps there were using in their room created enough of a interference with the framerate they were using in game. Changed the bulbs and all was good.

The trick is to ignore numbers, and simply look at what you think is acceptable and simply take that. After all, all that matters is gameplay.

Amen.

[Out Of Bubblegum]

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Postat inițial de crunchyfrog:

Ah now the issue here is that this is one of those issue of "tech envy".

Where you get hung up on the stats beyond any reason. Focusing on the numbers instead of the results. In the audio industry it's VERY common. People will swear an expensive thing is better because they believe the marketing claims. They never seem to listen to their ears though.

The reality here is that there will never be anything like an objective answer for this question as it entirely depends on the person, the game, the setup, hell even things like their local power supply and the lights in their room.

I've seen people run all sorts of framerates and compain about flickering and it turned out the LED lamps there were using in their room created enough of a interference with the framerate they were using in game. Changed the bulbs and all was good.

The trick is to ignore numbers, and simply look at what you think is acceptable and simply take that. After all, all that matters is gameplay.

Amen.

Thirded.

[Illusion of Progress]

The higher, the better... as someone else said, to a point. It's diminishing returns. I feel like 120 Hz/144 Hz would be a sweet spot right now.

I currently have a 60 Hz display, so that is the maximum I play at. While I am fine with that in games, I definitely wouldn't mind more. Where I would want a higher refresh rate more wouldn't be for games but simply for the smoother overall (like at the desktop) experience. When I moved to this LCD (from a CRT), that was probably the most jarring part; I noticed it immediately how not smooth it was at the desktop (I was getting called a drama queen for pointing this out).

My current display ticks most of my boxes, considering it's very old (2010) and what was available at the time, but I'm definitely aware there's improvements that are available. I'm not sure if I'll be replacing it soon though because I tend to upgrade very far apart, and my living room (both a TV failure and new furniture) and some other things are presently above my PC in priority, and then when I get around to my PC, my graphics card will probably need attention first.

There's actually one game I play that I go into the nVidia control panel and lock the refresh rate to 50 Hz (the horror, haha!). There's something about it where the developer did something to where something is locked to 50 updates and and at anything above 50 you get this strange pacing when the camera moves.

[crunchyfrog]

Postat inițial de Illusion of Progress:

The higher, the better... as someone else said, to a point. It's diminishing returns. I feel like 120 Hz/144 Hz would be a sweet spot right now.

I currently have a 60 Hz display, so that is the maximum I play at. While I am fine with that in games, I definitely wouldn't mind more. Where I would want a higher refresh rate more wouldn't be for games but simply for the smoother overall (like at the desktop) experience. When I moved to this LCD (from a CRT), that was probably the most jarring part; I noticed it immediately how not smooth it was at the desktop (I was getting called a drama queen for pointing this out).

My current display ticks most of my boxes, considering it's very old (2010) and what was available at the time, but I'm definitely aware there's improvements that are available. I'm not sure if I'll be replacing it soon though because I tend to upgrade very far apart, and my living room (both a TV failure and new furniture) and some other things are presently above my PC in priority, and then when I get around to my PC, my graphics card will probably need attention first.

There's actually one game I play that I go into the nVidia control panel and lock the refresh rate to 50 Hz (the horror, haha!). There's something about it where the developer did something to where something is locked to 50 updates and and at anything above 50 you get this strange pacing when the camera moves.

You also need to bear in mind that what it more important scraping a few extra Hz out, is getting a rate that syncs with your monitor too. If it ain't you're going to get MORE problems, not less.

[Schrute_Farms_B&B]

Seems like an easy question but its a tricky one. 60hz doesnt equal 60hz on every monitor.

One have to keep in mind that even the same framerate can feel significantly smoother on a higher refresh display than on a lower one.
I cant tell the difference between 60 FPS and 75 FPS on my 144hz IPS panel. Meanwhile 60hz on a 60hz monitor feels much more sluggish although were talking same hz/FPS cap.

Even the sync-technology has a big impact on how you perceive specific hz/FPS. 60hz with VSYNC feels different than 60hz with G-Sync or FreeSync.

Monitor specs also have an impact. -> ms, GTG, etc.

edit : I prefer max. quality over FPS in almost every single player game and I heard the very same thing from other people. That means 4K/1440p Ultra settings @50-60FPS.
Maybe a few FPS more when its a fast paced game like Cyberpunk.

Id love to play AAA games on 4K with 140FPS and Ultra settings but we not there yet, tech-wise.

[Carlsberg]

Higher refresh rates not only give smoother gameplay but also can increase controller response times, they are after all updated along with the screen and can make a difference in game.

Out pacing the monitor? I mean getting say 120 fps on a 60hz display means dropping 50% of the frames and losing anything you may gain by the higher fps. I believe its much better to match the gpu, screen and resolution to monitor output, so on a 144hz display for example I would try to be as consistent as possible to that refresh rate and would seek a gpu + cpu that would give me that. If that meant that i play at 1080p then so be it, I want to enjoy the game wether i win or lose.

[UserNotFound]

I have two monitors, main rig has an RX 6900 XT hooked up a 3840x1080 32:9 144Hz monitor and I usually get very good framerate except game with nVidia optimized RT. For a game like RE Village with RT, I can still get about 100fps or higher.

My 2nd rig has a VEGA64 hooked up to a 3440x1440 75Hz monitor and I don't have any visual tears when gaming. Even my HTPC - GTX 1080 + 4K 60Hz TV - has no issue with tearing or any visually related issues related to high framerate on 60Hz TV.

[Meatball]

Instead of counting your rigs and telling your specs (which btw has nothing to do with the topic or OP's question lol) could you at least tell us if you see andy difference between 100hz, 75hz and 60hz and which games you prefer on higher framerates ?