Is windows 11 any good with games?

[rudkin852]

I am thinking of getting a new games computer it comes with windows 11. Should I wait until it improves in relation to games ?or is it OK with games now.

[Obsessive Power]

Been using Windows 11 since November 21, no issues at all.

[Electric Cupcake]

Microsoft has gone down the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, past the point of no return. Don't give those shysters another cent, either through datamining or buying a license.

If you already have 10, you might as well stick with it until end of life, but otherwise, it's time to switch entirely to linux.

[plat]

If the machine has 12th generation Intel, it is optimized for Windows 11. Some AMD processors still have lingering performance issues which an upcoming firmware update should address (involves the firmware tpm).

Games should be fine, as should the other desktop experiences. There is no great difference betw. 10 and 11 kernel-wise. It does require Secure Boot and a trusted platform module to *edited*install Windows updates.

Windows 11 should theoretically run very well, esp. if you remove the bloatware and needless background settings (just about every app is permitted to run in the background unless you shut them off in Settings/Privacy/Background apps). It was extremely stable for me from day 1 (last July already) but I had installed minimal software beyond Windows itself.

[Chelle]

Well I have encountered zero issues but some say they have.

It is much more polished but for those that like tinkering and whatnot then probably not.

I have had Windows 11 for around 3 months and personally love it.

[Elucidator]

OP, what you should be asking instead is "Does windows perform better with games compared to other operating systems." because basically most OSs are currently good with games.
(most of that is also thanks to wine and proton)

tip: try gnu/linux. I mean its free. Try and test things, make sure you take notices on how easy and on how hard the differences are.
(and ignore your experience with windows on this, because that isn't exactly fair. You already know a thing or two about windows, and that 'easiness' may blind you.)

Edit:
In case you don't know what to pick
try zorinOS, endevour, mint, slack, chalet, manjaro, ubuntu, elementry, solus one of those.
There is a lot out there... you may want to pick something that is a bit more like windows (desktop wise defaults I mean)
and beginner friendly.

Look for images, videos if you're scared.
Also try FOSS/GNU alternatives of software as well while you're at it xd

[CZI]

I think Win11 is getting better and better.

But I rather stay in Win10 as long as I can.
Win10 has established way to optimize for gaming.

When I go to Win11, I'll need to learn many of the tips again.
For just playing game Win10 is still good.

[Azza ☠]

It's fine for gaming purposes, even better than Win 10 in some ways.

Windows 11 was designed firstly due to NEEDING A MAJOR SECURITY UPDATE with the previous versions of Windows boot stage. It's possible now for malware to rootkit itself in older Windows OS, between the boot stage, to hide itself from an anti-virus scanner. Win 11 addresses this with TPM 2.0 hardware isolation, both for the booting stage and optional for the memory too.

That removes approx 76% of old malware from functioning, then allows the anti-virus scanners to detect the rest while the boot remains unaffected.

Win 11 has the Xbox gaming feature, Direct Storage, allowing SSD > Graphics Card game textures transfer, rather than being via decoding with the CPU. Reducing the CPU usage and speeding up loading of game textures. Future games fully using this feature won't even need a loading screen.

Win 11 has a new thread director, which is most optimized for the Intel Alder Lake (12th Gen) CPU using big/LITTLE cores. It can use the big cores for gaming and heavy tasks, while running the OS and other smaller apps/tasks on the smaller cores. The result is much better multitasking. For example: A gamer, who is also streaming, chatting and a lot of other stuff on the side, will find it doesn't drop the game performance as much.

Win 11 also has auto-HDR, if your monitor supports the High Dynamic Range. It can auto-upscale older games with SDR to HDR. You can also instantly toggle HDR on and off, with the Windows Key + Alt + B keys.

So it will depend on your hardware, but can be well worth the upgrade.

Short Answer: Do you want boot security? Have a high-end SSD and graphics card? Have a monitor with HDR? If yes, then go Win 11. If on the other hand you don't and your motherboard doesn't support TPM 2.0, don't bother.

[SheIsMyPro]

Origineel geplaatst door rudkin852:

I am thinking of getting a new games computer it comes with windows 11. Should I wait until it improves in relation to games ?or is it OK with games now.

I do use windows 11 and have no issues at all.

[Witski]

Origineel geplaatst door Azza ☠:

It's fine for gaming purposes, even better than Win 10 in some ways.

Windows 11 was designed firstly due to NEEDING A MAJOR SECURITY UPDATE with the previous versions of Windows boot stage. It's possible now for malware to rootkit itself in older Windows OS, between the boot stage, to hide itself from an anti-virus scanner. Win 11 addresses this with TPM 2.0 hardware isolation, both for the booting stage and optional for the memory too.

That removes approx 76% of old malware from functioning, then allows the anti-virus scanners to detect the rest while the boot remains unaffected.

Win 11 has the Xbox gaming feature, Direct Storage, allowing SSD > Graphics Card game textures transfer, rather than being via decoding with the CPU. Reducing the CPU usage and speeding up loading of game textures. Future games fully using this feature won't even need a loading screen.

Win 11 has a new thread director, which is most optimized for the Intel Alder Lake (12th Gen) CPU using big/LITTLE cores. It can use the big cores for gaming and heavy tasks, while running the OS and other smaller apps/tasks on the smaller cores. The result is much better multitasking. For example: A gamer, who is also streaming, chatting and a lot of other stuff on the side, will find it doesn't drop the game performance as much.

Win 11 also has auto-HDR, if your monitor supports the High Dynamic Range. It can auto-upscale older games with SDR to HDR. You can also instantly toggle HDR on and off, with the Windows Key + Alt + B keys.

So it will depend on your hardware, but can be well worth the upgrade.

Short Answer: Do you want boot security? Have a high-end SSD and graphics card? Have a monitor with HDR? If yes, then go Win 11. If on the other hand you don't and your motherboard doesn't support TPM 2.0, don't bother.

So win 11 already have direct storage?
I was waiting for it to update to 11.

[Azza ☠]

Origineel geplaatst door Witski:

Origineel geplaatst door Azza ☠:

It's fine for gaming purposes, even better than Win 10 in some ways.

Windows 11 was designed firstly due to NEEDING A MAJOR SECURITY UPDATE with the previous versions of Windows boot stage. It's possible now for malware to rootkit itself in older Windows OS, between the boot stage, to hide itself from an anti-virus scanner. Win 11 addresses this with TPM 2.0 hardware isolation, both for the booting stage and optional for the memory too.

That removes approx 76% of old malware from functioning, then allows the anti-virus scanners to detect the rest while the boot remains unaffected.

Win 11 has the Xbox gaming feature, Direct Storage, allowing SSD > Graphics Card game textures transfer, rather than being via decoding with the CPU. Reducing the CPU usage and speeding up loading of game textures. Future games fully using this feature won't even need a loading screen.

Win 11 has a new thread director, which is most optimized for the Intel Alder Lake (12th Gen) CPU using big/LITTLE cores. It can use the big cores for gaming and heavy tasks, while running the OS and other smaller apps/tasks on the smaller cores. The result is much better multitasking. For example: A gamer, who is also streaming, chatting and a lot of other stuff on the side, will find it doesn't drop the game performance as much.

Win 11 also has auto-HDR, if your monitor supports the High Dynamic Range. It can auto-upscale older games with SDR to HDR. You can also instantly toggle HDR on and off, with the Windows Key + Alt + B keys.

So it will depend on your hardware, but can be well worth the upgrade.

Short Answer: Do you want boot security? Have a high-end SSD and graphics card? Have a monitor with HDR? If yes, then go Win 11. If on the other hand you don't and your motherboard doesn't support TPM 2.0, don't bother.

So win 11 already have direct storage?
I was waiting for it to update to 11.

It's available for Win 11 as an API for game developers to use already. They have even extended it to be allowed on Win 10, but not to it's full potential.

Ideally: A M.2 NVMe SSD and a High-End Graphics Card is required for it.

Microsoft Forspoken was the first game to use it. It takes loading time down to 1 second.

Also, the latest Nvidia graphics card (RTX series) have their own NVIDIA RTX IO, which taps into using that Direct Storage API as well.

[Witski]

Origineel geplaatst door Azza ☠:

Origineel geplaatst door Witski:

So win 11 already have direct storage?
I was waiting for it to update to 11.

It's available for Win 11 as an API for game developers to use already. They have even extended it to be allowed on Win 10, but not to it's full potential.

Ideally: A M.2 NVMe SSD and a High-End Graphics Card is required for it.

Microsoft Forspoken was the first game to use it. It takes loading time down to 1 second.

Also, the latest Nvidia graphics card (RTX series) have their own NVIDIA RTX IO, which taps into using that Direct Storage API as well.

i have a crucial p1 nvme and a rx 6900 xt

[Electric Cupcake]

DirectStorage is even more overhyped than Cyberpunk.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/03/directstorage-speeds-up-load-times-in-pc-game-demo-but-hardware-matters-most/

[Witski]

Origineel geplaatst door Electric Cupcake:

DirectStorage is even more overhyped than Cyberpunk.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/03/directstorage-speeds-up-load-times-in-pc-game-demo-but-hardware-matters-most/

it's just the start,there are endless utilization with it in games not just load times between menu and the game.

[EliteGamer]

I’m using Windows 11 Pro with a 12th gen CPU (12700K) and it’s a lot faster and snappier than Windows 10. I prefer the start menu of 10, but 11 still gets the job done, just without the lovely pictures and big icons of 10. I loved the photos app in 10 where you could set your pictures to it, I hope they bring that back, yeah the start menu in 11 is boring to look at it’s fair to say. I don’t like the default folder icons they chose for 11, too big and in your face. Windows 10 default icons are much better imo, but as a operating system, 11 is super fast. I don’t know what it’s like on 11th gen CPU’s or less that are not optimised for Windows 11, but with 12 gen CPU, it’s lightning fast, very responsive. Windows 11 feels more like apple now, the multitasking is great! The photos app brings some nice new feautures with the photos app, when opening a photo, you can open multiple photos and have them all side by side in the same photo instead of opening new photos and dragging them next to each other….. it’s really neat. To me, Windows 11 feels like a “chromium” version and 10 feels like a “regular” version. 11 feels like everytime you open something, it’s sped up because it’s so fast compared to 10 and I thought 10 was fast until I used 11. As for gaming so far I haven’t noticed much difference, either the same or better on 11, it’s not like when people updated to Windows 8 from 7 where 7 was a lot better than 8 for gaming until 8.1 came around and fixed that, no Windows 11 is awesome, better in almost everyway so far for me, just a few cosmetic stuff I preferred in 10 to 11 that’s all, but time will cure that no doubt.

[Azza ☠]

Origineel geplaatst door Witski:

Origineel geplaatst door Electric Cupcake:

DirectStorage is even more overhyped than Cyberpunk.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/03/directstorage-speeds-up-load-times-in-pc-game-demo-but-hardware-matters-most/

it's just the start,there are endless utilization with it in games not just load times between menu and the game.

I wouldn't say it's overhyped. It's already been proven to work well on the Xbox console with their games. It's more the next-gen games should be designed to make usage of it's API or the graphics card drivers need to make support of it for all games, such as what Nvidia is starting to do. It will get there.

Direct Storage comparison in loading times cuts 17.5 secs down to 1.2 secs. Then the CPU isn't even hogged to do that, freeing it up for other things. It's transferring the game textures compressed to the GPU to decode, rather than the CPU decoding and decompressing them, making it a larger transfer to the GPU. So actually cuts down a lot in the background processing.

Origineel geplaatst door EliteGamer:

I’m using Windows 11 Pro with a 12th gen CPU (12700K) and it’s a lot faster and snappier than Windows 10. I prefer the start menu of 10, but 11 still gets the job done, just without the lovely pictures and big icons of 10. I loved the photos app in 10 where you could set your pictures to it, I hope they bring that back, yeah the start menu in 11 is boring to look at it’s fair to say. I don’t like the default folder icons they chose for 11, too big and in your face. Windows 10 default icons are much better imo, but as a operating system, 11 is super fast. I don’t know what it’s like on 11th gen CPU’s or less that are not optimised for Windows 11, but with 12 gen CPU, it’s lightning fast, very responsive. Windows 11 feels more like apple now, the multitasking is great! The photos app brings some nice new feautures with the photos app, when opening a photo, you can open multiple photos and have them all side by side in the same photo instead of opening new photos and dragging them next to each other….. it’s really neat. To me, Windows 11 feels like a “chromium” version and 10 feels like a “regular” version. 11 feels like everytime you open something, it’s sped up because it’s so fast compared to 10 and I thought 10 was fast until I used 11. As for gaming so far I haven’t noticed much difference, either the same or better on 11, it’s not like when people updated to Windows 8 from 7 where 7 was a lot better than 8 for gaming until 8.1 came around and fixed that, no Windows 11 is awesome, better in almost everyway so far for me, just a few cosmetic stuff I preferred in 10 to 11 that’s all, but time will cure that no doubt.

Win 11 centres the start menu. I thought I would hate that, but came to like it. However, you can set it back to the left and even use an app to tweak it to look and act just like Win 10 instead.

Another thing Win 11 does that can be annoying is it shortens the right-click menu and hides options you might use regularly. Again this is something you can tweak with an app or manually with a simple registry edit.