Questions about Linux...
First off I know very little about Linux.
1) With Steam how limited is Linux, compared to Windows?
2) Is gaming performance decreased increased or unchanged vs Windows?
3) What distro do you recommend for 90% gaming 10% word processing?

For gaming I use Steam 95% of the time 5% Gog and I play mostly Age of Empires 2 DE, Factorio, Fallout New Vegas, Witcher 3 and in future the Mass Effect trilogy.

Gaming Laptop (2019) Specs
Intel I5 9400H
16gb ram
Nvidia 1650 gtx (mobile)
Dual ssds total 1tb

With windows 10 ending in a few years it got me thinking I would like a change!
Thanks in advance for your advice.
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If most of the games you play are Single Player types then you generally wouldn't have any real issues doing what all you do now under Linux. The performance is basically the same as Windows when it comes to Gaming. The problem would be, which Linux distro to choose. Kubuntu, Manjaro and Pop_OS are some very good ones to look into. Once you install Steam Client on Linux you will need to go into the client settings and enable things like Proton.

You can always do a wipe and go back to Win10 or 11 at any time also.

If you switch over to Linux though you will have to wipe and re-download your Games, as the files will be different for the Linux version of said games.
Ultima modifica da Bad 💀 Motha; 7 ott 2021, ore 19:44
1) It's generally not very limited at all compared to Windows these days, especially with Proton.
2) That will vary from game to game. Some games will perform a little worse, some a little better.
3) Can't personally answer too well since I haven't kept up with distros lately.

Anyway, I haven't played the other games, but I have played Fallout: New Vegas and The Witcher 3 flawlessly in Linux with Proton(haven't tried with mods though).
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Gaming Laptop (2019) Specs
Intel I5 9400H
16gb ram
Nvidia 1650 gtx (mobile)
Dual ssds total 1tb
Be aware going in that Optimus is not as well-supported as you might hope for, for reasons that you're unlikely to care about at this stage. It's getting better, but it will be an additional wrinkle for you to deal with.
To enforce an FPS limit, just use MSI AB + RTSS
1) The Steam client has full functionality + extra Linux specific features.

2) Can highly differ per game and if you are comparing Proton and native titles. Some run significantly worse, others significantly better and again others run about the same.

3) Pretty much any install-and-go distro such as Ubuntu, Manjaro, Solus, Linux Mint or Pop!_OS. Pop!_OS will be the easiest to get running on your laptop with Nvidia GPU.
^ This

That's one major thing to look at when using such Laptops is which will get along well with the Intel + NVIDIA GPUs so they work as intended.
Messaggio originale di Mallerak:
1) With Steam how limited is Linux, compared to Windows?
It's not. A better question might be "How limited is Windows compared to Linux?"

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2) Is gaming performance decreased increased or unchanged vs Windows?
Usually about the same. In some cases slightly decreased. In other cases it actually improves. Depends on the game.

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3) What distro do you recommend for 90% gaming 10% word processing?
Take your pick, really. Lots out there. I eventually settled on Kubuntu after some distro hopping.

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For gaming I use Steam 95% of the time 5% Gog and I play mostly Age of Empires 2 DE, Factorio, Fallout New Vegas, Witcher 3 and in future the Mass Effect trilogy.
Each of those games run excellently on Linux via Proton, and Factorio can run native to Linux.
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3) Pretty much any install-and-go distro such as Ubuntu, Manjaro, Solus, Linux Mint or Pop!_OS. Pop!_OS will be the easiest to get running on your laptop with Nvidia GPU.
Regarding this, I have a desktop with Elementary OS installed that would initially crash quite often. Like sometimes I could barely boot and start doing something before it crashed. It turned out to be the NVIDIA drivers for the GPU that was the problem. Guess the default drivers for my card were bad. After getting the proper drivers the crashing stopped. So picking something like Pop!_OS when you have NVIDIA might spare you a lot of headache.
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3) Pretty much any install-and-go distro such as Ubuntu, Manjaro, Solus, Linux Mint or Pop!_OS. Pop!_OS will be the easiest to get running on your laptop with Nvidia GPU.
Regarding this, I have a desktop with Elementary OS installed that would initially crash quite often. Like sometimes I could barely boot and start doing something before it crashed. It turned out to be the NVIDIA drivers for the GPU that was the problem. Had to update them or get new ones, don't remember which but I guess the default drivers weren't that good. So picking something like Pop!_OS when you have NVIDIA might spare you a lot of headache.
The only FOSS Nvidia drivers are the community maintained Nouveau drivers inside of the Linux kernel. Nouveau works decently with older Nvidia hardware but with anything recent it is barely good enough to get an image the screen.

Nvidia refuses to open source their GPU driver or in any meaningful way assist the development of the FOSS Nouveau driver. For this reason Nvidia is generally disliked by the Linux community. Quoting Linus Torvalds head maintainer of Linux "Nvidia is the single worst company we have ever worked with".
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/linus-torvalds-says-f-k-you-to-nvidia/

Intel and AMD by comparison actively develop and assist the community with the development of in-kernel drivers for their hardware. Their hardware just works on Linux.
Ultima modifica da Omega; 8 ott 2021, ore 11:37
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Regarding this, I have a desktop with Elementary OS installed that would initially crash quite often. Like sometimes I could barely boot and start doing something before it crashed. It turned out to be the NVIDIA drivers for the GPU that was the problem. Had to update them or get new ones, don't remember which but I guess the default drivers weren't that good. So picking something like Pop!_OS when you have NVIDIA might spare you a lot of headache.
The only FOSS Nvidia drivers are the community maintained Nouveau drivers inside of the Linux kernel. Nouveau works decently with older Nvidia hardware but with anything recent it is barely good enough to get an image the screen.

Nvidia refuses to open source their GPU driver or in any meaningful way assist the development of the FOSS Nouveau driver. For this reason Nvidia is generally disliked by the Linux community. Quoting Linus Torvalds head maintainer of Linux "Nvidia is the single worst company we have ever worked with".
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/linus-torvalds-says-f-k-you-to-nvidia/

Intel and AMD by comparison actively develop and assist the community with the development of in-kernel drivers for their hardware. Their hardware just works on Linux.
Interestingly enough it was an older GPU. Think NVIDIA recently dropped support completely, so the driver I now have is going to have to do. In the future I might go with Intel or AMD instead, NVIDIA just doesn't seem to be that Linux and FOSS friendly.

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Either that or something like Pop!_OS, but I kind of like open source so I would still prefer not using NVIDIA in the future.
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The only FOSS Nvidia drivers are the community maintained Nouveau drivers inside of the Linux kernel. Nouveau works decently with older Nvidia hardware but with anything recent it is barely good enough to get an image the screen.

Nvidia refuses to open source their GPU driver or in any meaningful way assist the development of the FOSS Nouveau driver. For this reason Nvidia is generally disliked by the Linux community. Quoting Linus Torvalds head maintainer of Linux "Nvidia is the single worst company we have ever worked with".
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/linus-torvalds-says-f-k-you-to-nvidia/

Intel and AMD by comparison actively develop and assist the community with the development of in-kernel drivers for their hardware. Their hardware just works on Linux.
Interestingly enough it was an older GPU. Think NVIDIA recently dropped support completely, so the driver I now have is going to have to do. In the future I might go with Intel or AMD instead, NVIDIA just doesn't seem to be that Linux and FOSS friendly.
Nvidia is very hostile towards anything open. From open standards to open drivers, they rather developer their own proprietary alternatives since it makes vendor lock-in easier. DLSS and Gsync being recent examples, AMD's counterparts FSR and Freesync are fully open source.

If you run Windows games through Proton-GE on Linux you can use FSR on almost any game with almost any hardware. Sidenote; this method is inferiour to games implementing itself since you want the upscaling to be done before the interface is drawn.
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Interestingly enough it was an older GPU. Think NVIDIA recently dropped support completely, so the driver I now have is going to have to do. In the future I might go with Intel or AMD instead, NVIDIA just doesn't seem to be that Linux and FOSS friendly.
Nvidia is very hostile towards anything open. From open standards to open drivers, they rather developer their own proprietary alternatives since it makes vendor lock-in easier. DLSS and Gsync being recent examples, AMD's counterparts FSR and Freesync are fully open source.

If you run Windows games through Proton-GE on Linux you can use FSR on almost any game with almost any hardware. Sidenote; this method is inferiour to games implementing itself since you want the upscaling to be done before the interface is drawn.
Yeah, I very much prefer the AMD approach to this. Interesting that with Proton-GE you can get FSR, maybe I will give Proton-GE a try after all (haven't so far out of laziness mostly). On the other hand, my display is only 1080p and I heard FSR works best with higher resolutions then that, so I will have to look into it.
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Always depends.
For gaming, i recommend POP!_OS because it comes with the fancy special proprietary Nvidia drivers or Manjaro, which is more cutting edge and auto detects and downloads drivers without having to think about it.
Steam runs just like on windows.
Compatability depends on the game.
you can see how good your game runs here: https://www.protondb.com/
and if the performance is decreased. Also depends.
Some in some games, you see no difference like in dota 2.
But especially in games which don't natively support linux, you are giving up some performance. Nothing Major, but you gotta set 1 or 2 slider a bit lower.
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Anyone had any experience with the word processors on Linux?

I'm no super-advanced office ninja or anything, but the Linux default open source office suite Libreoffice has been perfectly capable for my purposes. I have absolutely nothing bad to say about it. In fact, I think it's even better than Microsoft Office, ever since Microsoft tried to make Office more "user friendly".
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As I learn more Pop!_os looks like the winner for my situation.
(Having a Gaming Laptop with an integrated intel and dedicated nividia gpu)

I attempted to make a pop!_ os usb (just to try pop and not install it yet)
After disabling secure boot I got an error when booting off the usb error: invalid magic number
Which from what I gather the usb is bad (It is an old usb!)

I'm going to get a couple new usb's anyway 1 to make a recovery drive for windows 10 and 1 to boot pop!_os off.

I am fresh to all of this but it's neat to learn about it!
Anyone had any experience with the word processors on Linux?

Open source software sounds too good to be true so I am wondering what the snag is!
Is it just the extra leg work?
Eventually when I go back to a desktop I will be going the AMD route as well.
Thanks for all the input :)
You mean Microsoft Word? Don't bother with the Microsoft Office suite, you will have to install it under WINE which will quickly turn in to a huge mess of bugs, crashes and slowness. Use Office 365 via the web browser or just use LibreOffice.


The free software movement was started back in 1984 by Richard Stallman who was a computer scientist at MIT. Back then source code of programs was just shared with no second throught given. But then one day the lab he worked at was gifted a new Xerox printer, a laser printer, it was high-end and cutting edge stuff. They were the first outside of Xerox to own such a machine.

The printers back then were just as horrible as they are now, the stupid thing kept jamming. He wanted to add functionality to it's firmware so it would warn all computer users that the printer was stuck so they could fix it whenever this happened just like he had done with their previous printer.

After asking around he eventually found someone who had access to the source code, upon asking for it he was told; no, the software is closed source, you are not allowed to use our source code for anything. This pissed him off so badly that he started a war on non-free (as-in freedom) software by launching the GNU (Gnu's not Unix) project which aimed to develop a fully free operating system.

After years of work the GNU project had developed all core utilities of their GNU operating system. However they still missed one major component, the kernel. They were working on their own kernel called Hurd, it was hugely complex and progress was slow.

Then Linus Torvalds freed his kernel called Linux which was quickly incorporated in to the GNU system.

Now there is a controversy if it's called Linux of GNU/Linux.

Hurd is still under development, it might be done in ~20 years.


There is no snag, it was and still is just a bunch of nerds developing cool software in their free time.

The closest thing to a snag would be that these projects need their users to survive. So if you like a piece of software support it, there are many ways to do so; report bugs, donate, help coding it, write documentation, create artwork, provide feedback etc..
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