Is intel UHD graphics good or trash??

[Strain Jer]

I am wondering if intel UHD graphics can play regular, casual games that don't need a boat load of graphics. I have a 8GB RAM and a 4.1GHz processor to.

[Strain Jer]

Publicado originalmente por The Giving One:

Publicado originalmente por Let's game:

Ok as I have said before I like games that do not need a boat load of graphics for example: HYDRONEER, ASTRONEER, FACTORIO, CASTLES AND KINDOMS. Those are just a few but can most of those games in that category work on the intel UHD graphics??

1. Go to the Steam store for the game you are interested in.
2. Scroll down to find the system specs. for that game. Minimum and recommended.
3. Go to this site and compare those specs with what you have :

https://www.userbenchmark.com/

The compare tabs are all on top. If you look at the comparisons and they are very close to what you have, as compared to what is on the Steam Store, you can probably run that game, even if you have to turn down a few settings for graphics.

EDIT...........

Some games specifically state in the system requirements that they will NOT run on integrated graphics, which is what you have in that laptop. They may state that the game requires a dedicated GPU, or graphics card you can call it. So you need to make sure you carefully read the system specs in the Steam store for that game.

thanks I did know about the integrated stuff. Tanks anyway!😁

[Strain Jer]

Publicado originalmente por Felix:

Good enough for csgo or older games in general.
But dont even try assassins creed valhalla

Hey thanks and to tell you truth I hate assassin's creed!🤯 I don't find much fun in games like that.😵

[Strain Jer]

Ok now I have another problem everyone says dedicated is good integrated is junk which I guess I have😩. Now before this new computer I ordered I had another computer that was ok and it had intergraded GPU now I asked the developer of HYDRONEER and he said I needed a dedicated GPU but as stated before I didn't have one. I got the game anyway and it actually worked!!!🤯 Not sure why but is the intergraded and dedicated GPU that important?? Or maybe I'm wrong?🤔

[🍋 Lemonfed 🍋]

Publicado originalmente por Let's game:

Ok now I have another problem everyone says dedicated is good integrated is junk which I guess I have😩. Now before this new computer I ordered I had another computer that was ok and it had intergraded GPU now I asked the developer of HYDRONEER and he said I needed a dedicated GPU but as stated before I didn't have one. I got the game anyway and it actually worked!!!🤯 Not sure why but is the intergraded and dedicated GPU that important?? Or maybe I'm wrong?🤔

I guess that in this case he just din't tested the game on Igpu or only tested it with much older Igpu so that's probably why he prefered saying the game required a Dedicated graphic card.

[Supafly]

Publicado originalmente por Let's game:

Ok now I have another problem everyone says dedicated is good integrated is junk which I guess I have😩. Now before this new computer I ordered I had another computer that was ok and it had intergraded GPU now I asked the developer of HYDRONEER and he said I needed a dedicated GPU but as stated before I didn't have one. I got the game anyway and it actually worked!!!🤯 Not sure why but is the intergraded and dedicated GPU that important?? Or maybe I'm wrong?🤔

Sometimes things have not been tested and as they may not have tested all intergrated GPUs it's possible some produced after the game released would work. If it below or different to what is listed though you won't get tech support because its not officially supported

[Nothgott]

Publicado originalmente por Satoru:

depends on the game. people frequently misunderstand "not photo realistic" means "not graphically intensive"

Intel UHD graphics are not taht great. You 'might' be ok for various esports games where they're optimized to run on even the jankiest hardware imaginable. But I wouldn't rely on that

also having 8GB of RAM is going to limit things as well, because your Intel card uses your RAM as its VRAM, meaning you actually only have 7.5GB of RAM because the Intel UHD will use around 512MB RAM

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no graphics card means 2D games.
Graphics card means 3D games.
so if you wanna play fallout 2 etc... its ok, for bioshock 3 its a NO!

[🍋 Lemonfed 🍋]

Publicado originalmente por Nothgott:

Publicado originalmente por Satoru:

depends on the game. people frequently misunderstand "not photo realistic" means "not graphically intensive"

Intel UHD graphics are not taht great. You 'might' be ok for various esports games where they're optimized to run on even the jankiest hardware imaginable. But I wouldn't rely on that

also having 8GB of RAM is going to limit things as well, because your Intel card uses your RAM as its VRAM, meaning you actually only have 7.5GB of RAM because the Intel UHD will use around 512MB RAM

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no graphics card means 2D games.
Graphics card means 3D games.
so if you wanna play fallout 2 etc... its ok, for bioshock 3 its a NO!

I played plenty of 3D games on a old Intel HD 4400 before I upgraded my desktop with a dedicated graphic card , bioshock Infinite minimum requirments specifify Intel HD 3000 so you can probably expect a playable game at something like 720P.

sometime a 2D game can actually require a better computer then a 3D game if the 2D game is newer or using a more complex game engine.

[Strain Jer]

Well I haven't got my laptop in yet but when I do get it I'm going to test it by playing farming simulator 19 on it. Will it work or not?

[🍋 Lemonfed 🍋]

Publicado originalmente por Let's game:

Well I haven't got my laptop in yet but when I do get it I'm going to test it by playing farming simulator 19 on it. Will it work or not?

from what I see on youtube even the Intel UHD 620 drop below 30 fps fairly often with the game ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lIGpQtm-vw ... so it's might run but it's not gonna be a great experience.

instead of going for 2019 , I'd reccomend sticking with an older version of the game like this one https://store.steampowered.com/app/313160/Farming_Simulator_15/

the system requirments mention a NVIDIA GEFORCE 8600 which is a very old graphic card meaning an Intel UHD has plenty of chances at running the game fine,

[crunchyfrog]

Publicado originalmente por ReBoot:

Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:

Lemonfed meant that this can only make things WORSE on the whole. The point being that Intel graphics chipsets share RAM, and impact your CPU.

Come to think of it, investing in RAM performance will henceforth improve the overall APU performance, won't it?

That kind of depends.

If you get more RAM, and bung more resources of the Intel graphics into sharing that, then it CAN make a small improvement. But it could equally make things worse because it may be detracting from other processes. There are only a finite number of clock cycles after all, and any CPU has to switch and spread resources between them.

Adding more memory in any case CAN make things slower in some cases. While this defo ain't noticeable on modern system to any noticeable degree in normal circumstances, you can see how this works on really old computers.

Go see if you can find video of an old Sinclair ZX-81, for example. They had 1K as standard. Hit the return ket and the cursor blips and it takes a fraction of a second to return.

Plug in a 16K RAM pack, and that wait is several seconds. No program, no extra resources, just added memory to cycle through. Granted this is an extreme example, but it shows you a very real example of how it CAN happen.

[_I_]

for the igpus, ram speed is proportional to its performance
dedicated gpu ram is so much faster than desktop ram


pc ddr4 = 1066 (dd2133) - 2400 (ddr4800) mhz 128bit bus width for dual ch
using ddr4 4800 duah ch = 38GB/s
ddr4 2133 single ch = 8.5GB/s

gt 1030 gddr5 6000mhz 64bit bus width = 48GB/s


if you are using a single dimm, adding a matching dimm for dual ch will double its igpu performance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdStl2S4Oao

[LonerD]

Publicado originalmente por Let's game:

I am wondering if intel UHD graphics can play regular, casual games that don't need a boat load of graphics.

More than good for 95% Steam icons.
I even completed ARK Survival on Intell 4600

[crunchyfrog]

Publicado originalmente por Howl at the Moon:

Publicado originalmente por Let's game:

I am wondering if intel UHD graphics can play regular, casual games that don't need a boat load of graphics.

More than good for 95% Steam icons.
I even completed ARK Survival on Intell 4600 :tgrin:

95%? Absolute rubbish.

Not even close to that amount. Depends what you mean by steam iconsm, as that sounds like a bit weaselly worded.

The fact remains that they aren't that many though there are quite a few that can be played, but the other problem still exists. That you can go to play one day and suffer crippling performance or it not run at all due to updates.

We';ve seen it many times on these forums.

[Strain Jer]

Publicado originalmente por Howl at the Moon:

Publicado originalmente por Let's game:

I am wondering if intel UHD graphics can play regular, casual games that don't need a boat load of graphics.

More than good for 95% Steam icons.
I even completed ARK Survival on Intell 4600 :tgrin:

Thanks!!!

[Strain Jer]

Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:

Publicado originalmente por Howl at the Moon:

More than good for 95% Steam icons.
I even completed ARK Survival on Intell 4600 :tgrin:

95%? Absolute rubbish.

Not even close to that amount. Depends what you mean by steam iconsm, as that sounds like a bit weaselly worded.

The fact remains that they aren't that many though there are quite a few that can be played, but the other problem still exists. That you can go to play one day and suffer crippling performance or it not run at all due to updates.

We';ve seen it many times on these forums.

The guy said he could play ARK survival! I don't know about you but that game isn't exactly small. Anyway I'm getting the computer today so we will find out soon enough!👍