J Charcole 2018년 12월 30일 오후 5시 18분
GTX 1060 6gb vs RX 580?
Both are the same price in my country literally the same price so which one is the besT?

I know it will depend on the games both are good and can deliver good fps but i just want to know xD
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Wichtelman 2018년 12월 30일 오후 5시 51분 
search for comparison videos on youtube...
r.linder 2018년 12월 30일 오후 6시 04분 
They are equal in some titles, 1060 pulls ahead in Nvidia optimized titles, 580 pulls ahead in AMD optimized titles. Overall, they're within 2% of each other.

It comes down to cost since they are virtually equals, and the RX 580 is cheaper in most cases but it is much less power efficient than even GTX 1080s so when you have a RX 580, the minimum requirement is a 500W PSU when you could settle for a 450W with a 1060 (though still not really recommended, limited upgrade headroom with that)\

As a result of them being pretty much equally priced in your country as you said, the 1060 would probably be the better choice because there are more titles optimized for Nvidia than AMD and it's more power efficient. The RX 580 is only a better deal in cases when it's much cheaper.
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J Charcole 2018년 12월 30일 오후 6시 22분 
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They are equal in some titles, 1060 pulls ahead in Nvidia optimized titles, 580 pulls ahead in AMD optimized titles. Overall, they're within 2% of each other.

It comes down to cost since they are virtually equals, and the RX 580 is cheaper in most cases but it is much less power efficient than even GTX 1080s so when you have a RX 580, the minimum requirement is a 500W PSU when you could settle for a 450W with a 1060 (though still not really recommended, limited upgrade headroom with that)\

As a result of them being pretty much equally priced in your country as you said, the 1060 would probably be the better choice because there are more titles optimized for Nvidia than AMD and it's more power efficient. The RX 580 is only a better deal in cases when it's much cheaper.
Thanks imma gonna research again

also tell me if one of these games are nvidia optimized or amd cuz if half of these are nvidia optimized i might just get the 1060 6gb

Cities Skylines
Counter Strike Global offensive
Euro Truck Simulator
F1 2019
GTA 5
Witcher 3
Steep
Far Cry 5
AC : Origins
ARMA 3
Kerbal Space Program
Watch Dogs 2
Hitman 2
*Also if Red dead redemption 2 releases on pc xD*
Also other triple A games
and simulators XD
And some future games

I feel like half of these are nvidia optimized games xD

and if i will get the 1060 6gb what cpu should i get 2600 or 8400?
Also not to mention but i want this build to be future proof i mean i will upgrade this build 3-5 years

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r.linder 2018년 12월 30일 오후 6시 26분 
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They are equal in some titles, 1060 pulls ahead in Nvidia optimized titles, 580 pulls ahead in AMD optimized titles. Overall, they're within 2% of each other.

It comes down to cost since they are virtually equals, and the RX 580 is cheaper in most cases but it is much less power efficient than even GTX 1080s so when you have a RX 580, the minimum requirement is a 500W PSU when you could settle for a 450W with a 1060 (though still not really recommended, limited upgrade headroom with that)\

As a result of them being pretty much equally priced in your country as you said, the 1060 would probably be the better choice because there are more titles optimized for Nvidia than AMD and it's more power efficient. The RX 580 is only a better deal in cases when it's much cheaper.
Thanks imma gonna research again

also tell me if one of these games are nvidia optimized or amd cuz if half of these are nvidia optimized i might just get the 1060 6gb

Cities Skylines
Counter Strike Global offensive
Euro Truck Simulator
F1 2019
GTA 5
Witcher 3
Steep
Far Cry 5
AC : Origins
ARMA 3
Kerbal Space Program
Watch Dogs 2
Hitman 2
*Also if Red dead redemption 2 releases on pc xD*
Also other triple A games
and simulators XD

I feel like half of these are nvidia optimized games xD

and if i will get the 1060 6gb what cpu should i get 2600 or 8400?

Pretty much all of those games.

2600 would be a better purchase, just make sure you get 3000 MHz for maximum peformance from memory.
J Charcole 2018년 12월 30일 오후 6시 29분 
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Thanks imma gonna research again

also tell me if one of these games are nvidia optimized or amd cuz if half of these are nvidia optimized i might just get the 1060 6gb

Cities Skylines
Counter Strike Global offensive
Euro Truck Simulator
F1 2019
GTA 5
Witcher 3
Steep
Far Cry 5
AC : Origins
ARMA 3
Kerbal Space Program
Watch Dogs 2
Hitman 2
*Also if Red dead redemption 2 releases on pc xD*
Also other triple A games
and simulators XD

I feel like half of these are nvidia optimized games xD

and if i will get the 1060 6gb what cpu should i get 2600 or 8400?

Pretty much all of those games.

2600 would be a better purchase, just make sure you get 3000 MHz for maximum peformance from memory.
Ohh thanks but is this even true? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLZIZSzezno
I mean what is the reason why amd wins about 1-5 fps? is it because of the cpu or gpu?
r.linder 2018년 12월 30일 오후 6시 30분 
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Also not to mention but i want this build to be future proof i mean i will upgrade this build 3-5 years

Get future proofing out of your head or you'll always worry about it.

These are mid-range specs we're talking about, and the 1060 is going to be replaced by the 1160 and/or 2060 sometime in 2019, and they're around 1070 performance. These specs will be completely obsolete within 5 years, if I had to guess, as we're on the verge of 7nm processors while the current technology is 12nm, and that's a significant gap. Of course, the first 7nm products will have issues like Threadripper 1 did, but the following generation/refresh will likely fix those issues like Threadripper 2.
J Charcole 2018년 12월 30일 오후 6시 32분 
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Also not to mention but i want this build to be future proof i mean i will upgrade this build 3-5 years

Get future proofing out of your head or you'll always worry about it.

These are mid-range specs we're talking about, and the 1060 is going to be replaced by the 1160 and/or 2060 sometime in 2019, and they're around 1070 performance. These specs will be completely obsolete within 5 years, if I had to guess, as we're on the verge of 7nm processors while the current technology is 12nm, and that's a significant gap. Of course, the first 7nm products will have issues like Threadripper 1 did, but the following generation/refresh will likely fix those issues like Threadripper 2.
so should i wait?
r.linder 2018년 12월 30일 오후 6시 33분 
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Pretty much all of those games.

2600 would be a better purchase, just make sure you get 3000 MHz for maximum peformance from memory.
Ohh thanks but is this even true? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLZIZSzezno
I mean what is the reason why amd wins about 1-5 fps? is it because of the cpu or gpu?

Some of those games like SotTR are AMD optimized. They used a mish-mash of differently optimized titles to have a fair playing field.

1-5 FPS is also next to nothing as they both acheive 60 FPS easily at 1080p, medium to high settings on most games but sometimes ultra.
J Charcole 2018년 12월 30일 오후 6시 34분 
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Ohh thanks but is this even true? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLZIZSzezno
I mean what is the reason why amd wins about 1-5 fps? is it because of the cpu or gpu?

Some of those games like SotTR are AMD optimized. They used a mish-mash of differently optimized titles to have a fair playing field.

1-5 FPS is also next to nothing as they both acheive 60 FPS easily at 1080p, medium to high settings on most games but sometimes ultra.
So the 2600 and gtx 1060 6gb is okay? i mean yes it's okay lul what i mean is which is better 1060 6gb and rx 580 paired with 2600?
r.linder 2018년 12월 30일 오후 6시 37분 
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Get future proofing out of your head or you'll always worry about it.

These are mid-range specs we're talking about, and the 1060 is going to be replaced by the 1160 and/or 2060 sometime in 2019, and they're around 1070 performance. These specs will be completely obsolete within 5 years, if I had to guess, as we're on the verge of 7nm processors while the current technology is 12nm, and that's a significant gap. Of course, the first 7nm products will have issues like Threadripper 1 did, but the following generation/refresh will likely fix those issues like Threadripper 2.
so should i wait?

That's up to you, but many would recommend waiting for the 2060/1160.

Personally, I would honestly wait for RX 3000 series AMD GPUs to release in 2019 as SUPPOSEDLY the 3080 is supposed to match the 2070 for half the price. If they can pull that off, it would be smart to instead settle for an RX 3070 or 3080 depending on pricing.

Ryzen 3rd gen is also going to be 7nm, so it remains to be seen if it's going to be smart to get one right off the bat as we have no idea what could happen as 7nm is something that Intel struggled with for a long time. There could be very huge issues with it.
I'm not upgrading from my 2700X any time soon. Maybe a few years down the line, it depends where they go with the soon to be released Ryzen 9 lineup which is supposed to feature 16 core 32 thread chips. The flagship 3850X is claimed to have 5 GHz turbo, which would put it in same ballpark of the i9-9900K right off the bat, potentially even destroying it in benchmarks.

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Some of those games like SotTR are AMD optimized. They used a mish-mash of differently optimized titles to have a fair playing field.

1-5 FPS is also next to nothing as they both acheive 60 FPS easily at 1080p, medium to high settings on most games but sometimes ultra.
So the 2600 and gtx 1060 6gb is okay? i mean yes it's okay lul what i mean is which is better 1060 6gb and rx 580 paired with 2600?

The performance is ultimately going to be the same, so it only depends on what you can find for cheaper from these brands: ASUS, EVGA, and Sapphire.
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J Charcole 2018년 12월 30일 오후 6시 38분 
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so should i wait?

That's up to you, but many would recommend waiting for the 2060/1160.

Personally, I would honestly wait for RX 3000 series AMD GPUs to release in 2019 as SUPPOSEDLY the 3080 is supposed to match the 2070 for half the price. If they can pull that off, it would be smart to instead settle for an RX 3070 or 3080 depending on pricing.

Ryzen 3rd gen is also going to be 7nm, so it remains to be seen if it's going to be smart to get one right off the bat as we have no idea what could happen as 7nm is something that Intel struggled with for a long time. There could be very huge issues with it.
I think i will just wait and 1 last question let's say that the gpu were already release the 2060/1160 and amd's gpu so do you think the 1060 6gb's price will be lower or will still be the same?
J Charcole 2018년 12월 30일 오후 6시 40분 
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So the 2600 and gtx 1060 6gb is okay? i mean yes it's okay lul what i mean is which is better 1060 6gb and rx 580 paired with 2600?

The performance is ultimately going to be the same, so it only depends on what you can find for cheaper from these brands: ASUS, EVGA, and Sapphire.
oic i think i will just go for 1060 6gb cuz it's literally cheaper than rx 580 xD also there are many brands in 1060 6gb than rx 580 in my country. I mean our shopping mall
r.linder 2018년 12월 30일 오후 6시 41분 
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That's up to you, but many would recommend waiting for the 2060/1160.

Personally, I would honestly wait for RX 3000 series AMD GPUs to release in 2019 as SUPPOSEDLY the 3080 is supposed to match the 2070 for half the price. If they can pull that off, it would be smart to instead settle for an RX 3070 or 3080 depending on pricing.

Ryzen 3rd gen is also going to be 7nm, so it remains to be seen if it's going to be smart to get one right off the bat as we have no idea what could happen as 7nm is something that Intel struggled with for a long time. There could be very huge issues with it.
I think i will just wait and 1 last question let's say that the gpu were already release the 2060/1160 and amd's gpu so do you think the 1060 6gb's price will be lower or will still be the same?

1060 6GB prices would drop, but it'll become as low end as 1050 Ti within 2 years and obsolete after another 2.
J Charcole 2018년 12월 30일 오후 6시 44분 
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I think i will just wait and 1 last question let's say that the gpu were already release the 2060/1160 and amd's gpu so do you think the 1060 6gb's price will be lower or will still be the same?

1060 6GB prices would drop, but it'll become as low end as 1050 Ti within 2 years and obsolete after another 2.
so you saying that 1060 performance's will be slower from time to time?

Also 2060 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuwaFPym9Jg&t=13s it cost $350 same as 1070 xD i can't afford that **** *rumor*
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r.linder 2018년 12월 30일 오후 6시 56분 
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1060 6GB prices would drop, but it'll become as low end as 1050 Ti within 2 years and obsolete after another 2.
so you saying that 1060 performance's will be slower from time to time?

There is supposedly going to be an 1160, a version without raytracing that will be cheaper.

All PC components become less useful over time as software demands higher performance. You won't be able to play the latest games on a 1060 6GB at all within 2~4 years depending on the GPU requirements.
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