Be Careful of "Gaming Laptops"

[VG_Elder]

I see many threads of people buying gaming laptops and wonder why they don't work as well as the specs say they should. First and foremost, you can't compare laptop specs with desktop specs. Most laptops will give up at least 25-50% performance reduction (from the given specs) due to their construction and power saving features. Desktops are built for power while laptops are built to conserve power. There are laptops that do provide a 1 to 1 ratio with their desktop counterparts but those laptops are extremely pricey (your not buying those in Walmart).

That is not to say a gaming laptop is useless. It will play plenty of games that are less graphics intensive but some of your higher level games will struggle.

[☆ƧQυiяяєL♫]

I can agree with you on a few points, ... but..

But, its suggested that many people should do the work of investigating hardware perquisites, I've bought a "gaming" laptop with a comparable graphics card, only to find that the graphics card was limited to an unshared 1 gb memory. The laptops mobo, cpu, and gpu specs did measure up to their PC desktop counterparts, bit the gpu's built-in mem was limited to 1 gb.

I've found that the PC games I was interested in, had a minimum of 2-4gb GPU dedicated mem, so if I had done more research back then (2014), I should've waited to this date (2018) when laptop/desktop "gaming PC's" were now offering 4 to 8gb NVidia 1050 or their AMD equivalent.

So, I think, its the consumer, the "buyer" who should be cognizant of what games he/she would like to play and what specs fit that bill. Its not the fault at the claim of the manufacturers as there are many useful reviews available online.

I found this out, after I bought my said laptop and most of the reviews stated, "general use laptop but not for hardcore PC Direct X+ gaming, its more for light lite-phone flash games LOL"

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

When comes to GPUs currently ATM only the Nvidia GPU 10xx series are 1 to 1 with desktops, or slightly downclock, all others are vary different from their desktop counterparts, and will be weaker in comparison from laptop to desktop.

The laptop goal is to be portable, and each product vary where one will aim to be light thin format, while trying to conserve battery life, or to give the best cooling while being portable, and give best performance, all of this vary for each product, as well what does the end user wants from a laptop, does battery life matters more, or does performance matters more, it boils down what people wants when seeking out laptops.

One of the drawback of a laptop, not being able to upgrade some of the parts, having to manage cleaning more often, if used very often to help keep the cooling in check, as well.

[☆ƧQυiяяєL♫]

@Dr. Shadows,

That's possibly true, but I assumed that most games could run at there minimum specs, I had to educate myself at the limitations of most laptops
as, I wanted a "green" PC gaming comp and I don't know any of this, until I visited my local Walmart and Sam's Club, Costco or whatever, but many "gaming" laptops I found were at Nvidia 1060/1050 settings or at there AMD equivalent.

I agree, I like the portability of laptops, I am not much for a full-on dual SLI GPU 2500Watts powered laptop that can play anything (as I do own a "gaming" desktop PC but its not really eco-friendly as my so-called gaming laptop)

For me, again, I'm more eco-friendly, I'm looking for a desktop and a laptop that can do gaming and other tasks (I guess, at least) 350 watts and below.
So (as of 2018) I'm at NVidia 1050-1060 @ 4/6/8 GB.

That's my desktop (laptop) gaming limit: below 350watts Power, 1060 Nvidia 8 GB min, and as most lappies are heading into that route. I don't mind lower graphics limitations, I want to be eco-friendly, if possible :-)

[UNCLE STINKFISH]

I travel with my work and live in Hotels - and sometimes find I have clocked up +50 hours a week gaming :)

I love my GTX1060 i7 7700 16GB - with software controled FPS cap/internal fans and cooling pad.

I think capping FPS to 60 is the deal breaker, sometimes reducing temperatures of 90 degrees to 50...

[Start_Running]

Beware of any poroduct branded as 'Gaming' it's basically just a word they tack on to justify overcharging for a subpar piece of hardware.

[tacoshy]

引用自 Start_Running：

Beware of any poroduct branded as 'Gaming' it's basically just a word they tack on to justify overcharging for a subpar piece of hardware.

Most not any... Aorus X299 Gaming 9 or Aorus Z270X Gaming 9 - one of the best boards while the last was the best overclocking board for Z270 because of 22 phases.

Beyerdynamic Gaming Pro ot Game one... One of the best headset for lower budget. With mire then a decent price.

Could go on with the list.

[VG_Elder]

Here is a good article that profiles the latest and greatest in Gaming Laptops. You can get a high performance Gaming Laptop but you will be melting down your piggy bank to get it. As they state in the article, if you want power then go with a desktop. If you want power and portibilty then you can go with a pricey laptop.

https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2020688,00.asp

Low end gaming systems (both desktop and laptop) will run about $1000 while the higher end ones can easily go up to $3000 and more depending on what you are looking for.

引用自 Start_Running：

Beware of any poroduct branded as 'Gaming' it's basically just a word they tack on to justify overcharging for a subpar piece of hardware.

I would say yes and no. For me, MSI Gaming motherboards (custom builds) have always been rock solid with realitbilty and performance. I have 3 active MSI gaming desktops and one MSI gaming laptop. The gaming laptop can run the lower end graphics games fine (many EA games here on Steam) but had problems with higher end games like Skyrim.

Although I would be very cautious of a "Gaming Laptop" from someone like HP or Dell. Not to say they can't make a good gaming laptop but that is not their primary business. A gaming laptop selling for $800 would be considered a low end system.

引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉：

When comes to GPUs currently ATM only the Nvidia GPU 10xx series are 1 to 1 with desktops, or slightly downclock, all others are vary different from their desktop counterparts, and will be weaker in comparison from laptop to desktop.

The laptop goal is to be portable, and each product vary where one will aim to be light thin format, while trying to conserve battery life, or to give the best cooling while being portable, and give best performance, all of this vary for each product, as well what does the end user wants from a laptop, does battery life matters more, or does performance matters more, it boils down what people wants when seeking out laptops.

One of the drawback of a laptop, not being able to upgrade some of the parts, having to manage cleaning more often, if used very often to help keep the cooling in check, as well.

I thought I heard the newer Nvidia cards were boasting 1 to 1 ratios between their desktop and moblie counterparts. The problem then becomes having a great video card on a downgraded motherboard. You have to take all the specs as a whole.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

引用自 VG_Elder：

引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉：

When comes to GPUs currently ATM only the Nvidia GPU 10xx series are 1 to 1 with desktops, or slightly downclock, all others are vary different from their desktop counterparts, and will be weaker in comparison from laptop to desktop.

The laptop goal is to be portable, and each product vary where one will aim to be light thin format, while trying to conserve battery life, or to give the best cooling while being portable, and give best performance, all of this vary for each product, as well what does the end user wants from a laptop, does battery life matters more, or does performance matters more, it boils down what people wants when seeking out laptops.

One of the drawback of a laptop, not being able to upgrade some of the parts, having to manage cleaning more often, if used very often to help keep the cooling in check, as well.

I thought I heard the newer Nvidia cards were boasting 1 to 1 ratios between their desktop and moblie counterparts. The problem then becomes having a great video card on a downgraded motherboard. You have to take all the specs as a whole.

The newer was the 10xx series, there no 20xx for the laptop series yet, or I haven't seen them yet.

Also I don't think what the board for the laptop matters as much, or not at all as they're never going to be the same level as the desktop counterpart, what would matter most is what CPU you get to be with the GPU, and at the very least you want to ensure it's a quad core, or better.

[T-sterr69]

I bought the MSI GP73 Leopard 8RF with GTX 1070 and i7-8750H. Flawless for what I use it for and have no problems, yes a PC is the way more price effective option, but for what i need/do there's nothing wrong with it. Also compared to the desktop 1070, the difference in performance is 10-15% max.

[UNCLE STINKFISH]

引用自 T-ster96💯：

I bought the MSI GP73 Leopard 8RF with GTX 1070 and i7-8750H. Flawless for what I use it for and have no problems, yes a PC is the way more price effective option, but for what i need/do there's nothing wrong with it. :csgocross: Also compared to the desktop 1070, the difference in performance is 10-15% max.

MSI too heavy, I replaced my MSI with another that does tha same job (maybe a bit less capability), but with 1/2 the weight...

About the same price too - so yeah, maybe +40% extra cash for what a desktop could do...

[T-sterr69]

引用自 STINKFISH：

引用自 T-ster96💯：

I bought the MSI GP73 Leopard 8RF with GTX 1070 and i7-8750H. Flawless for what I use it for and have no problems, yes a PC is the way more price effective option, but for what i need/do there's nothing wrong with it. Also compared to the desktop 1070, the difference in performance is 10-15% max.

MSI too heavy, I replaced my MSI with another that does tha same job (maybe a bit less) with 1/2 the weight...

About the same price too - so yeah, maybe +40% extra cash for what a desktop could do...

I got it at a really good reduced price, i only buy gaming laptops on black friday or severely discounted sales lol

[UNCLE STINKFISH]

引用自 T-ster96💯：

引用自 STINKFISH：

MSI too heavy, I replaced my MSI with another that does tha same job (maybe a bit less) with 1/2 the weight...

About the same price too - so yeah, maybe +40% extra cash for what a desktop could do...

I got it at a really good reduced price, i only buy gaming laptops on black friday or severely discounted sales lol

LOL - that sound like win, I miss all the discounts...