Gaming mice - do they actually make a difference?

[Cakefish]

If I play singleplayer games (including FPS) on a 165Hz G-SYNC display is it worth investing in a 'gaming' branded mouse?

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Depends what you currently have, if some $10 mouse with 1000 dpi sensor then sure, the responsiveness of the mouse would be whole another world.
If you have something with 3000-6000 dpi then this is usually fine.

[igloosfolly]

Agree.

[Cakefish]

Rumpelcrutchskin님이 먼저 게시:

Depends what you currently have, if some $10 mouse with 1000 dpi sensor then sure, the responsiveness of the mouse would be whole another world.
If you have something with 3000-6000 dpi then this is usually fine.

I have the Logitech M205 budget wireless mouse.

Can't find specifications as it's discontinued now but the newer models in the price range have 1000 DPI sensors so the one I have now can't be any better.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Cakefish님이 먼저 게시:

I have the Logitech M205 budget wireless mouse.

Can't find specifications as it's discontinued now but the newer models in the price range have 1000 DPI sensors so the one I have now can't be any better.

Yeah that's pretty bad for gaming, 1000 dpi small laptop mouse.

Somthing like this would make a lot of difference with your monitor, it's adjustable from 200 to 12000 dpi so can set it exactly how it feels best to you:

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Gaming-Advanced-Sensor-Competitive/dp/B01JPOLLTK/

[vadim]

Sensor resolution in most cases doesn't matter at all. I often play CS:GO at 800 DPI and can not see any difference with 8000. What does matter that number of buttons and convenience to hold in your hand. Think yourself: 800 DPI means the sensor resolution is 31 micrometers. You can not position the mouse with such precision anyway.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

vadim님이 먼저 게시:

Sensor resolution in most cases doesn't matter at all. I often play CS:GO at 800 DPI and can not see any difference with 8000. What does matter that number of buttons and convenience to hold in your hand. Think yourself: 800 DPI means the sensor resolution is 31 micrometers. You can not position the mouse with such precision anyway.

Well I'm gaming at 4400 dpi, feels just right for me. I had cheap mouse with 1000 dpi once upon a time when I used 1280x1024 monitor, when I switched to 1080p from that it felt terrible, would not even move across the screen without rolling like crazy. Have not used cheap rodents ever since.

[Talby]

Rumpelcrutchskin님이 먼저 게시:

...Somthing like this would make a lot of difference with your monitor, it's adjustable from 200 to 12000 dpi so can set it exactly how it feels best to you:

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Gaming-Advanced-Sensor-Competitive/dp/B01JPOLLTK/

I have that one, the G-Pro, that's a great deal I also got it on sale for $40. Odd the G203 is not on sale that's also an excellent choice in the $25 range.

vadim님이 먼저 게시:

Sensor resolution in most cases doesn't matter at all. I often play CS:GO at 800 DPI and can not see any difference with 8000. What does matter that number of buttons and convenience to hold in your hand. Think yourself: 800 DPI means the sensor resolution is 31 micrometers. You can not position the mouse with such precision anyway.

I find myself switching resolutions quite often depending on the game, e.g. 800 DPI for FPS views and 1600+ DPI for vehicle views just to match the precision to my liking.

[Birdman Jr]

I never had a fancy mouse and then I got a logitech one that had the weights in it. G500S model. I feel it has made quite the difference with the weights in it now for me. But of course, to each their own.

[Talby]

^ quite true, your grip and weight preference does deserve a mention. Since I have a M size hand with a claw grip, the G-pro is a perfect fit.

If you have larger hands and palm grip, you most likely be happier with a bigger mouse.

[Cakefish]

Thanks everyone. I've gone and ordered the Logitech G703 online for delivery tomorrow (and 6% off because of employer discount scheme - neat!). Reading these comments I'm sure it'll be worth it :D

While I was out checking if the local PC store had it in stock (which they didn't, hence the online order) I spotted the Logitech G810 mechanical keyboard at 55% off (because the other PC hardware store in town is having a closing down sale). I have been using a Logitech G213 keyboard so it should be a decent upgrade! A nice bonus! Shame we're losing a PC hardware store but it's shutting all stores nationwide so can't be helped.

[Monk]

vadim님이 먼저 게시:

Sensor resolution in most cases doesn't matter at all. I often play CS:GO at 800 DPI and can not see any difference with 8000. What does matter that number of buttons and convenience to hold in your hand. Think yourself: 800 DPI means the sensor resolution is 31 micrometers. You can not position the mouse with such precision anyway.

How can you not tell the difference? Without hugely altering the sensitivity in game they react and perform massively different.

In general a lower DPI requires far greater movement Vs a higher DPI, which you prefer is a personal preference.

The main difference between a good quality mouse and a cheap one is the accuracy and speed of the sensor, a good mouse will behave better than a cheap one even at the same DPI.

For me, I like a high 6400 dpi with sensitivity in-game turned right down, this way I play mainly with my wrist and minor arm movements.

Others prefer the lower DPI and moving their entire arm alot as it allows you to be more accurate far easier (moving your mouse 10cm with low DPI Vs moving it 1cm has a far greater degree of control and margin of error after all), the secret is to find what works for you.

A better mouse will generally have a higher polling rate so is again more accurate.

When it comes to wireless mice, there are very few that are actually good for gaming, with as far as I know the Logitech 903 (I think that's the model) and the Asus ROG spatha (the mouse I use) being amongst the only ones that you cannot tell if they are wired or wireless (but this comes at a hell of a cost).

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

Rumpelcrutchskin님이 먼저 게시:

vadim님이 먼저 게시:

Sensor resolution in most cases doesn't matter at all. I often play CS:GO at 800 DPI and can not see any difference with 8000. What does matter that number of buttons and convenience to hold in your hand. Think yourself: 800 DPI means the sensor resolution is 31 micrometers. You can not position the mouse with such precision anyway.

Well I'm gaming at 4400 dpi, feels just right for me. I had cheap mouse with 1000 dpi once upon a time when I used 1280x1024 monitor, when I switched to 1080p from that it felt terrible, would not even move across the screen without rolling like crazy. Have not used cheap rodents ever since.

But there's sensitivity sliders in games tio. But maybe you mean in Windows on setting 6.

Logitech G203/102 have a pretty good sensor but medium quality switches and isn't expensive.

For a wireless good gaming mouse prices increase a lot.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Monk님이 먼저 게시:

For me, I like a high 6400 dpi with sensitivity in-game turned right down, this way I play mainly with my wrist and minor arm movements.

Others prefer the lower DPI and moving their entire arm alot as it allows you to be more accurate far easier (moving your mouse 10cm with low DPI Vs moving it 1cm has a far greater degree of control and margin of error after all), the secret is to find what works for you.

Same thing for me, I barely move my hand with the mouse at all on the pad, just small wrist flick with claw grip and mouse moves 1-2 cm on the pad, with high dpi it's enough to move the cursor from one side of the screen to another instantly.
Lot less stress on the wrist and hand that way then big rolling motions.
Probably why I never had problems with carpal tunnel syndrome despite heavy use for half my life.
Guess it's individual for every person how they like to hold and move the mouse, when you used something same way for years or even decades then it's very hard to unlearn the muscle memory.

[Monk]

Yeah, my mate unlearned high DPI for low and big movements as that's how top players do it in CS apparantly, but honestly I see no point in trying g to change how I've used a mouse for decades, I'm to old tompkay competitive now anyway, been there done that when I was younger lol, now it's just for fun.

You may have a point about carpal tunnel syndrome, I know people with the issue who only use a mouse for work and I have WAY more hours logged gaming using a mouse than they could even have using it for work. Strange.

[vadim]

Monk님이 먼저 게시:

How can you not tell the difference? Without hugely altering the sensitivity in game they react and perform massively different.

I guess, I set higher sensitivity in the OS rather than in the mouse itself. To be honest, that is nearly transparent to me.