Help! Confused over Asus - ROG Strix GL702VS GTX 1070

[NinjaRed64]

So I'm planning on getting this: Asus - ROG Strix GL702VS 17.3" Laptop - Intel Core i7 - 12GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 - 1TB Hard Drive - Armor titanium

One thing that's puzzling me is the GPU. Is the GTX 1070 the same as the desktop GPU 1070 or is it less powerful? Keep in mind my old laptop that I plan on replacing has a 970M.

[Glitch]

I would assume it's the same GPU. If it was a 1070m than it would be a stripped down version.

[NinjaRed64]

Glitchman eredeti hozzászólása:

I would assume it's the same GPU. If it was a 1070m than it would be a stripped down version.

Yeah I assumed as much as it doesn't say 1070M, just 1070. I was hoping it'd be as powerful as a desktop GPU.

[WarmedxMints]

10xx series GPU's in laptops are pretty much the same as the desktop versions.

[NinjaRed64]

WarmedxMints eredeti hozzászólása:

10xx series GPU's in laptops are pretty much the same as the desktop versions.

Thanks! I'm definitely getting this now.

[Cathulhu]

Hardwarewise they are pretty much the same, the laptop variants use lower clockspeeds for better temperature management.

[a Hippobottomus]

They don't use M series on 10's, but they're still downclocked.

[NinjaRed64]

a Hippobottomus eredeti hozzászólása:

They don't use M series on 10's, but they're still downclocked.

That's understandable. Don't want it to explode. Though isn't that par for the course with most gaming laptops?

[a Hippobottomus]

NinjaRed64 eredeti hozzászólása:

a Hippobottomus eredeti hozzászólása:

They don't use M series on 10's, but they're still downclocked.

That's understandable. Don't want it to explode. Though isn't that par for the course with most gaming laptops?

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[NinjaRed64]

a Hippobottomus eredeti hozzászólása:

NinjaRed64 eredeti hozzászólása:

That's understandable. Don't want it to explode. Though isn't that par for the course with most gaming laptops?

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What I'm asking is don't most laptops have a lower clock speed compared to desktops?

[a Hippobottomus]

NinjaRed64 eredeti hozzászólása:

a Hippobottomus eredeti hozzászólása:

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What I'm asking is don't most laptops have a lower clock speed compared to desktops?

Yes

[NinjaRed64]

a Hippobottomus eredeti hozzászólása:

NinjaRed64 eredeti hozzászólása:

What I'm asking is don't most laptops have a lower clock speed compared to desktops?

Yes

Ok. Honestly that doesn't really bother me so I'm dead set on getting this

[tacoshy]

NinjaRed64 eredeti hozzászólása:

a Hippobottomus eredeti hozzászólása:

They don't use M series on 10's, but they're still downclocked.

That's understandable. Don't want it to explode. Though isn't that par for the course with most gaming laptops?

they are not downclocked because of the heat they are downclocked because of the power usage...
But downclocking is one thing the early M versions where also cut down (loss of CUDA-Cores) while the GTX 10 Series is not. So if you would clock them to desktop frequencies you wouldnt have a difference.

[a Hippobottomus]

tacoshy eredeti hozzászólása:

NinjaRed64 eredeti hozzászólása:

That's understandable. Don't want it to explode. Though isn't that par for the course with most gaming laptops?

they are not downclocked because of the heat they are downclocked because of the power usage...
But downclocking is one thing the early M versions where also cut down (loss of CUDA-Cores) while the GTX 10 Series is not. So if you would clock them to desktop frequencies you wouldnt have a difference.

Can you explain that last part better? It sounded very confusing.

[Big Boom Boom]

Generally mobile GPU is within 5%-10% of the desktop variant due to downclock AND undervolted.

Max-Q (ultra thin) version is severely undervolted and underclocked. A GTX 1080 Max-Q is only 5% better than mobile GTX 1070 and is still weaker than desktop GTX 1070. It's understandable because it's undervolted to the point of consuming only 90w vs desktop GTX 1070 150w.

[tacoshy]

Well on laptop befor GTX 10 (GTX 9 - GTX 950M e.g.) you not only had lower frequency but also less CUDA-Cores. Cuda-Cores are mini processors which actually doing the computing stuff to take it simple.

basically your graphic power is: CUDA-Cores * Clock speed

Since GTX 10 (like GTX 1050 mobile) the chip isnt cut down anymore. means it doesnt lose any computingpower. But to save power as laptops intend to run on a battery that should provide enough power for more then just 5 minutes the frequency is lowered.
If you wouldnt run on the batterie and change the clockrate to the normal desktop clock rates you would have only a marginal difference (less then 5%).