Achievements Need Rewarding Value

[Dovah Boy]

I am a big achievement hunter along with a lot of other gamers and i love the new badge system that you guys came up with because its rewarding however i think that achievements dont have a good system as of now. The achievements earned in game by completing a certain task should be more rewarding or count to something bigger. Right now the achievements are just their and with all the new awesome things you guys are doing to make steam better i think you guys could do something cool with achievements. Xbox has a gamerscore which gives a certain value to each achievement and they add collectively to make your gamerscore higher which is fun to compete to get the highest score with your friends. Playstation has trophies which are simlar to gamerscore concept except there are 3 different trophies depending on difficulty and when you get the the trophies for a game it gives you a platinum trophy, which all add to your level to compete with friends. I think if steam can integrate something like these or even something unknown it would make achievement much more rewarding. If you think valve should make a more rewarding system like this for achievements let them know what you think in the comments.

[Τhe Rolling Cheese Wheel]

inb4 achievements can be cheated.

[Phantasystar77]

I've been saying the same thing. Steam Achievements seem more like a tack on then anything. I'd personally love to see them contribute towards your Steam level.

[Black Blade]

Was ask so many times but in the end...
First of all like Hue Cheese say there is ways to cheat
The point of achievements is to give game dev a way to reward players for there work telling them well done you did something really hard and beat it
That is what you get you don't need anything else if you do and you get awesome but that is not needed really (on mobile sorry for typos)

[Phantasystar77]

There's ways to cheat getting steam cards too im sure.

[Gus the Crocodile]

I think they should actively not include a system like this. Gamerscore teaches people it's a remotely logical idea to compare completely different challenges, designed by completely different people and using completely different skill sets, by a single number. It teaches people to simplify down their experiences to almost entirely information-free numbers instead of learning to discuss what they've done. And it teaches people to only do things for external reward, rather than acknowledging the intrinsic value of challenging yourself to complete a task, and of completing that challenge. Comparing achievements by points is at best entirely meaningless - an game where the different players are playing by different rules, and where the rich have an inherent advantage over the poor - and at worst an actively harmful influence on the gaming community. Not to say that anyone "exposed" to gamerscore turns into a blithering idiot - that doesn't even happen with, say, Fox News - but I do believe in bad messages and bad influences, however subtle they may be on their own.

If you don't feel motivated to get certain achievements, then don't get them. You're okay with not finishing every game on the planet, right? Some of them you don't like, and that's just fine, right? Achievements are no different. Like games, they're things you can do if you want to, and not do if you don't.

If you want some way to compare yourself to others by score, some kind of contest that's actually fair and thus meaningful...maybe try one of the thousands of games available on Steam.

[Black Blade]

For your information:

Do I get Trading Cards for completing achievements in game?
Trading Card drops are currently just tied to playtime within a game, independent of which achievements you are getting. We will definitely look into adding more rules for how cards are dropped in the future, but there are a few problems with in-game achievements that prevented us from using them right now. Many games have achievements that are grindy or un-fun to get, and we want the act of getting game cards to be fun for all users in games. We also don't want to push users to cheat or use achievement-unlockers in games in order to get cards, since that devalues achievements and isn't that fun either. Achievements are still valuable, and having the Achievement Showcase on your community profile is a great way to show off those rare achievements.

Source: Steam Trading Cards FAQ

[dennyprout]

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[ReBoot]

Achievements are too easy to cheat. To be honest, the moment I get something for them, I'll cheat.

[Black Blade]

引用自 ReBoot：

Achievements are too easy to cheat. To be honest, the moment I get something for them, I'll cheat.

ReBoot so far i was thinking you are better then that...

[ReBoot]

引用自 Black Blade：

引用自 ReBoot：

Achievements are too easy to cheat. To be honest, the moment I get something for them, I'll cheat.

ReBoot so far i was thinking you are better then that... :whine:

OFC that depends on the bonus. A score is not worth it. But some people suggested monetary rewards in the past.

[Dovah Boy]

There shouldnt be any monetary rewards, that should be only trading cards and the system they have for that is fine. An achievement system without monetary rewards would be fine, and even if people have cheated for their achievements, thats their own problem and then they cant have a fair friendly competition with their friends. If they could add some type of score system for achievement separate from our steam levels just for the sake of competition, it would be a great addition to Steam.

[Dovah Boy]

Did you read the post? I said there shouldn't be a monetary reward for achievements, leave that for trading cards.

[Black Blade]

引用自 TheNaughtyOttsel：

Did you read the post? I said there shouldn't be a monetary reward for achievements, leave that for trading cards.

My bad then i was thinking you say that you need to get trading cards from it

[Fruh]

you complete the achievements because you like the challenge. it's the feeling of completionism. that's what you get. if that is not rewarding enough, then just play the games you like and don't bother looking at the achievements.

[ReBoot]

Trading cards are more or less monetary, guys.