Psymon² 2013년 3월 30일 오후 4시 34분
Retail / Digital CD Keys
I don't really know who to contact about this (steam support? gabe newell? forum mod? etc.).

The support page for supported retail / digital cd keys appears to be out of date.
Some games that I believe require steam, such as the new tomb raider, and bioshock infinite, have no appeared on the list.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7480-WUSF-3601

I find this list very useful, and humbly request it be updated.
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ariba 2013년 3월 30일 오후 4시 41분 
Where did you buy the CD key from?

Either way, I suggest you to contact Steam Support.

https://support.steampowered.com/
Spawn of Totoro 2013년 3월 30일 오후 6시 12분 
That list is for regular games where the key can also be used on Steam. Not games that require Steam to play.

The two you mentioned are Steamworks games and require a Steam account anyways. There is no need to add them to that list.
ReBoot 2013년 3월 31일 오전 2시 40분 
Surely there is a need. Whoever buys retail games wants to know what game can be activated on Steam and having one list will be a help.
Pheace 2013년 3월 31일 오전 3시 11분 
ReBoot님이 먼저 게시:
Surely there is a need. Whoever buys retail games wants to know what game can be activated on Steam and having one list will be a help.

To be fair, if it's a Steamworks game, its mentioned on the box that it requires Steam.

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ReBoot 2013년 3월 31일 오전 4시 05분 
Pheace | TQ Gold - 2 Keys님이 먼저 게시:
ReBoot님이 먼저 게시:
Surely there is a need. Whoever buys retail games wants to know what game can be activated on Steam and having one list will be a help.

To be fair, if it's a Steamworks game, its mentioned on the box that it requires Steam.
Sure. But having ONE LIST for all your "CAN YOU REGISTER THAT GAME ON STEAM"-business is still a matter of convenience. Convenience, buddy. It's not like we can't do it otherwise, but convenience.
Spawn of Totoro 2013년 3월 31일 오전 6시 21분 
ReBoot님이 먼저 게시:
Sure. But having ONE LIST for all your "CAN YOU REGISTER THAT GAME ON STEAM"-business is still a matter of convenience. Convenience, buddy. It's not like we can't do it otherwise, but convenience.

It is more convinent to look at the box when in the store, or read the systemre quirements, then go on the net and find a list, then go back and buy it.

That list is for games that don't say you can add it to Steam on the box. That is all. If Steam is a requirement, it states so on the box or under the system requirements.
ReBoot 2013년 3월 31일 오전 7시 29분 
Cause when you buy on Amazon or you just buy a CD key on some authorized store, you totally look at boxes...
Dude, why do you fight that suggestion? Is there something evil about having one single list?
Spawn of Totoro 2013년 3월 31일 오전 7시 42분 
ReBoot님이 먼저 게시:
Cause when you buy on Amazon or you just buy a CD key on some authorized store, you totally look at boxes...
Dude, why do you fight that suggestion? Is there something evil about having one single list?

"or read the system quirements" It states on the game page that the game requires Steam.

The information is already out there and accessible is a more convenient manner then is what being suggested. The intent of tha page is diffrent from what you seem to want it to be.

Why do you insist on it's redundancy when it is unnecessary since the information is availabe where you are buying the game? There is no convinence is what is being asked. It serves no purpose to do it like that.

Want a list of Steam games, look in the Steam store. That list is for retail games that can be played as is OR added to Steam. If you make it a "Steam Games List" it will just confuse people who are not sure if the game they have can also be added to Steam.
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ReBoot 2013년 3월 31일 오전 7시 43분 
There's another workflow you miss. It's not like some of us browse games, open game pages and then think "Hm, can I activate that on Steam?" Some people want to have games on Steam so we open the complete list and afterwards look up those titles on Amazon, in store or whatsoever. "Read the requirements" doesn't cover that.
Spawn of Totoro 2013년 3월 31일 오전 7시 47분 
ReBoot님이 먼저 게시:
There's another workflow you miss. It's not like some of us browse games, open game pages and then think "Hm, can I activate that on Steam?" Some people want to have games on Steam so we open the complete list and afterwards look up those titles on Amazon, in store or whatsoever. "Read the requirements" doesn't cover that.

Yes it does. They system requiremets or another part on the games description will tell you if Steam is required.

If you are too lazy to read the requirements then that is on you. If you are only going by that list to buy a game, then that is your problem, not Steams.

All "workfows" are covered. You should always read the system requirements.
ReBoot 2013년 3월 31일 오전 8시 15분 
Reread my post. What if you FIRST look for list of games to buy based on their Steam support and THEN open a details page for that game on some store. You FIRST look up a list of titles with Steam support.
Spawn of Totoro 2013년 3월 31일 오전 8시 20분 
ReBoot님이 먼저 게시:
Reread my post. What if you FIRST look for list of games to buy based on their Steam support and THEN open a details page for that game on some store. You FIRST look up a list of titles with Steam support.

No one does that. No one looks at a list of "Retail Keys" then looks up titles, let alone a support article. If they wanted a list of Steam games, they would look at the Steam store.
ReBoot 2013년 3월 31일 오전 8시 23분 
Well, I do. And Psymon maybe too. Dude, if you don't do it, and maybe your family and friends don't do that, don't assume everyone else is like you.
PS: Steam games can be way cheaper outside of the Steam store.
Psymon² 2013년 3월 31일 오전 9시 11분 
Totoro.
Please see this list.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_using_Steam_authentication
You will see that all the games there require steam.
You will also notice that some of the games on that list are also found on the list I linked to in my first post.

As such, your entire argument is redundant.

The retail / CD key list on the steam support page is meant to have ALL games where the key can or must be registered through steam.
As I said previously, some games are missing from that list because it has been some time since it was updated.
That is all I request. Quite why you are so hostile toward this bemuses me.
Spawn of Totoro 2013년 3월 31일 오전 10시 31분 
Psymon²님이 먼저 게시:
Totoro.
Please see this list.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_using_Steam_authentication
You will see that all the games there require steam.
You will also notice that some of the games on that list are also found on the list I linked to in my first post.

As such, your entire argument is redundant.

The retail / CD key list on the steam support page is meant to have ALL games where the key can or must be registered through steam.
As I said previously, some games are missing from that list because it has been some time since it was updated.
That is all I request. Quite why you are so hostile toward this bemuses me.

As is your suggestion when games that require Steam already say so on a box and under system requirements.

There are 2000+ games on Steam. Creating that list is pointless since all anyone has to so is look through the games that are already there (through the store) and check the system requirements that are listed where they are buying the game from.

Not being hostile, just debating the subject with ReBoot. Why are you being so defensive over something so trivial yourself?

I'm simply pointing out why it is not needed. If jsut want the games listed, it is pointless. No one ever looks at that list unless they want to know if a game they already own and play can be activate. No one looks to find out if a game that already states it requires Steam, cen be added to Steam.

If a way to improve the current system was bing offerd, that would be diffrent from just "update your lust that hardly anyone uses".
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