All games should have achievements

[Hvesyr]

Pretty straightforward.. I think that all games should have achievements, even those that no one plays.. In my opinion achievements are an incentive to play/replay the game.. I'm suggesting this because I don't know if the devs try to introduce achievements in every game or if they have a selected list of games to make achievements.

[Spawn of Totoro]

Developers decide to include achievements or not, as well as what they are.

If you want to see achievements in a specific game, I would suggest asking that developer directly.

[Hvesyr]

How can I do that? Here on the suggestions? Or on the game forum? Or is there other way to contact the devs? I'm kinda new to steam so I may be a little behind..

[Spawn of Totoro]

You would need to search google for the developer's website and as them in their forums or e-mail.

They don't look at the Steam Suggestion forums.

[Laptop]

Would be nice. The developer / publisher has the say in it though (note that they only have access to the game code and only they can add achivements to it.

[Hvesyr]

Ohh.. Ok.. Thanks.. :)
Still, I keep my suggestion. :)

[Spawn of Totoro]

Messaggio originale di J.Winters:

Ohh.. Ok.. Thanks.. :)
Still, I keep my suggestion. :)

Feel free to and good luck.

[Ineffable Anathema]

I totally disagree that all games should have achievements. In some cases, notably the few very atmospheric horror games, it would serve only to break immersion and pull you back out of your game every time one of those freakin' things popped up. They're approproate in SOME games, but not all of them.

[Hvesyr]

Messaggio originale di I AM SHODAN!:

I totally disagree that all games should have achievements. In some cases, notably the few very atmospheric horror games, it would serve only to break immersion and pull you back out of your game every time one of those freakin' things popped up. They're approproate in SOME games, but not all of them.

You can disable the steam overlay.. That way nothing from steam will pop up in your gaming..
Or this could be also another suggestion: Add an option to disable steam achievements notification..
:)

P.S: I played Alan Wake, very immersive, and the pop-ups didn't bother me at all..

[Ineffable Anathema]

Messaggio originale di J.Winters:

Messaggio originale di I AM SHODAN!:

I totally disagree that all games should have achievements. In some cases, notably the few very atmospheric horror games, it would serve only to break immersion and pull you back out of your game every time one of those freakin' things popped up. They're approproate in SOME games, but not all of them.

You can disable the steam overlay.. That way nothing from steam will pop up in your gaming..
Or this could be also another suggestion: Add an option to disable steam achievements notification..
:)

P.S: I played Alan Wake, very immersive, and the pop-ups didn't bother me at all..

It's more than just the popups. It's the whole thinking "oh hey I should do this while I'm here to get the achievement" which just re-references reality while you're trying to escape it for a while. It's the nagging in the back of your head asking whether you collected all of the amusoballs in the last section or not, the little voice wondering whether you missed a thermos of coffee on that last cliff somewhere, it's essentially real life intruding constantly on your fantasy world. This is never good for an immersive game. I don't even like to take screenshots in a game like that until I've played it through once.

[Hvesyr]

Messaggio originale di I AM SHODAN!:

Messaggio originale di J.Winters:

You can disable the steam overlay.. That way nothing from steam will pop up in your gaming..
Or this could be also another suggestion: Add an option to disable steam achievements notification..
:)

P.S: I played Alan Wake, very immersive, and the pop-ups didn't bother me at all..

It's more than just the popups. It's the whole thinking "oh hey I should do this while I'm here to get the achievement" which just re-references reality while you're trying to escape it for a while. It's the nagging in the back of your head asking whether you collected all of the amusoballs in the last section or not, the little voice wondering whether you missed a thermos of coffee on that last cliff somewhere, it's essentially real life intruding constantly on your fantasy world. This is never good for an immersive game. I don't even like to take screenshots in a game like that until I've played it through once.

What can I say.. If you hate steam interruptions (achievements, chat, so on) in your gaming so much then I think you should buy your games from another store or play them retail.. No psychological nagging this way.. = /

[Fox]

Messaggio originale di J.Winters:

What can I say.. If you hate steam interruptions (achievements, chat, so on) in your gaming so much then I think you should buy your games from another store or play them retail.. No psychological nagging this way.. = /

Shodan was just expressing his dislike of achievements, nothing else. After all, he may like taking screenshots, and other Steam-related game stuff, just not the first time.
For my part, I have to disagree too. Developers should decide whether or not they want to code in achievements, and Steam or the players should not push them. Steam can't even do it, otherwise, games will go elsewhere.
Invalid, and I disagree.

[Ineffable Anathema]

Actually I have nothing against achievements, I just don't think they belong in certain types of games. The reason I am such a fiend for a good immersive horror game is that it allows me a near-complete escape for a few hours from everything else. If I have to worry about my achievements while I'm playing, then it's not going to happen. That does happen to me while playing Alan Wake, which is a shame because it could be more immersive without them.

They're perfectly fine in other sorts of games where you're not so disconnected from reality, such as FPS games with online chat or such. I get them in Borderlands 2 and Killing Floor quite a lot. Just please, not in my really scary games. ^_^

For the record, I'm also not a 'he'. :)

[Fox]

Messaggio originale di I AM SHODAN!:

For the record, I'm also not a 'he'. :)

Oops. I deeply apologize.
I sadly doesn't know an english gender-neutral pronoun (except for "it", which... wouldn't do it), so I used "he" as a guess.

[Ineffable Anathema]

Messaggio originale di Fox:

Messaggio originale di I AM SHODAN!:

For the record, I'm also not a 'he'. :)

Oops. I deeply apologize.
I sadly doesn't know an english gender-neutral pronoun (except for "it", which... wouldn't do it), so I used "he" as a guess.

It's not like you could have had any idea, lol. Just clarifying for the record. ;)

[Gus the Crocodile]

The English gender-neutral pronoun is "they".

I agree with Shodan about the merits of certain games not presenting popups and I think developers like Frictional have been wise to leave out achievements for that reason. But ideally, yes, I think a more robust solution would be for Valve to add more customisation options so you can disable certain types of popups (in this case, achievements) without having to turn the overlay off entirely. Perhaps developers would even be able to suggest defaults for their game, and similar to graphics driver options, the user might select from "off", "on" or "application controlled". Because different people feel differently about these things, and ideally I wouldn't really want developers leaving things out of their games because of the preferences of a few.