stanisko Jan 13, 2024 @ 6:16am
I find it sad - still too often lacking a clear unique confirmation info on whether game playable also in Single Off-line mode
Urging note to Game publishers and to Steam about the playable game modes "Is this game relevant to you?" I just don't understand why they ever don't add a simple useful line whether that whatever game is playable in the Offline Single mode as well. That attitude really sucks.

To ignore that information is just ignorant & unfair to gamers who got money to spend,
but they don't ever get a chance to receive full clear product information --> whether the game's playable in Single Offline Mode as well. That freedom matters to many of gamers indeed.

So it might better look like for instance:

Online single-player
Offline single-player
Online PvP
Online Remote Play Together
Shared/Split Screen Co-op
etc.
:steamsad::steamfacepalm:
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Zefar Jan 13, 2024 @ 6:32am 
I don't think there is such a demand for Offline Single player as you think it is. Majority or all of them are offline mode too by default.

I can't recall a SP game that needed online to work.
Eagle_of_Fire Jan 13, 2024 @ 9:44am 
I have found first hand in the past few years at least two dozain of single player games which absolutely require you to be online to work. If you are not then the game just freeze up and downright refuse to work. Then you physically disconnect your computer from the internet and the Steam client ask you if you want to launch in offline mode... Which promptly and immediately turn your game which refuse to work unless you're online into a working product.

I have found yet another game with this behaviour just yesterday, of all things.

The amount of people who talk about this topic without having the slightest clue about the truth is staggering.
William Shakesman Jan 13, 2024 @ 9:57am 
Originally posted by Zefar:
I don't think there is such a demand for Offline Single player as you think it is. Majority or all of them are offline mode too by default.

I can't recall a SP game that needed online to work.
There was a big thing recently called a Steam Deck. You might want to look into it.

And just off the top of my head, MMXLC2
Tito Shivan Jan 13, 2024 @ 10:13am 
I wouldn't mind a 'remote play together compatibility' tag just like Steam does for Steam Deck compatibility.
Zefar Jan 13, 2024 @ 10:18am 
Originally posted by William Shakesman:
Originally posted by Zefar:
I don't think there is such a demand for Offline Single player as you think it is. Majority or all of them are offline mode too by default.

I can't recall a SP game that needed online to work.
There was a big thing recently called a Steam Deck. You might want to look into it.

And just off the top of my head, MMXLC2

That was a demand on a handheld minicomputer that could play triple A games. A market which had almost no competitors in.

Also can you name any SP games that are not able to play Offline?
William Shakesman Jan 13, 2024 @ 10:44am 
Originally posted by Zefar:
Originally posted by William Shakesman:
There was a big thing recently called a Steam Deck. You might want to look into it.

And just off the top of my head, MMXLC2

That was a demand on a handheld minicomputer that could play triple A games. A market which had almost no competitors in.

Also can you name any SP games that are not able to play Offline?
As I said earlier, just off the top of my head, MMXLC2.

EDIT: Wait, no just MMLC2. MMXLC2 just doesn't run under modern PCs on normal circumstances but MMLC2 needs internet or it dies.
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Zefar Jan 13, 2024 @ 11:17pm 
Originally posted by William Shakesman:
Originally posted by Zefar:

That was a demand on a handheld minicomputer that could play triple A games. A market which had almost no competitors in.

Also can you name any SP games that are not able to play Offline?
As I said earlier, just off the top of my head, MMXLC2.

EDIT: Wait, no just MMLC2. MMXLC2 just doesn't run under modern PCs on normal circumstances but MMLC2 needs internet or it dies.

I have MMXL1 and 2 on my Win11 PC and those works just fine.

I tried the first MMLC1 as it has the same Enigma DRM that people complain about in MMLC2 but I can run it offline without any problem.
Put Steam into offline mode, pulled out the ethernet cable and started the game.
Eagle_of_Fire Jan 14, 2024 @ 2:43am 
Originally posted by Zefar:
Originally posted by William Shakesman:
As I said earlier, just off the top of my head, MMXLC2.

EDIT: Wait, no just MMLC2. MMXLC2 just doesn't run under modern PCs on normal circumstances but MMLC2 needs internet or it dies.

I have MMXL1 and 2 on my Win11 PC and those works just fine.

I tried the first MMLC1 as it has the same Enigma DRM that people complain about in MMLC2 but I can run it offline without any problem.
Put Steam into offline mode, pulled out the ethernet cable and started the game.
The fact that you can pull the cord and play any of those game is not a defence. If anything it is the proof you need to know how ♥♥♥♥♥♥ this situation is. You have a perfectly good software which is simply gated by a completely pointless technology which can only be seen as a negative whichever way you look at it.
stanisko Jan 14, 2024 @ 6:53am 
Thanks for all answers.
I myself am not against any gamers who love to play "always online". As I myself like to play certain types of games rather in multiplayer, or weekend LAN parties in our garage, or PvP as well. However I just care for the freedom of choice.

Well then perhaps I'd explained in other words. Over years I've spent, mislead, altogether over 220 Euros already for such ignorant way offered games with kind of "ALWAYS online"-mode push only.

And I don't whine abut the wasted bucks here. It's more about disturbing trends to "keep all sheeps" there online for whatever it takes. I know what am I talking about, myself I was over fourteen years senior for marketing & sales applications and know how to fool
consumers or abuse hyped trends of so called "consumers journeys" etc etc.

But back to the point: -I just felt each time like I bought a car where they didn't tell me upfront I have to stay in car for the whole day just because the door stays closed on default till you
go online and use some of mandatory apps there inside of the car. Well no wonder I wouldn't buy such car indeed, ever. :steamsad:

There are planty of games who block offline single mode.
a) or make it intensionally difficult to play their game offline on Steam
b) or there are plenty of games that are not possible to play offline at all
c) or they would just enable single-offline "technically only", and you find yourself without all main feautures vital for reasons why you purchased the game at all. (* dont remember name but recently a US civil war game where all was great , autheentic unifirms, terain, skirmishes AI was solid, and atmosphere and sounds just great, but you could play just on cloud servers,
and once you got into single mode it never happened anything, just useless fake cheat mode like if simngle offline but a nonsense. I ll find the name Iforgot the precise name of it .
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Well, anyways, thanks to you all who contributed with their opinions over here. Appreciated
At least there was nobody who would dare to wonder why we would need a freedom of choice at all. So that's a progress already at least.

However to make my case stronger maybe I'll invest my time in some of next threads
to list up all of those games that don't give a *-peep-* for gamers who still value the freedom of choice betwen online and offline easily, without complications and BEFORE i make decision to buy or NOT.

Cheer thanks for your time.
Have yourselves a quality gaming time, and dont put in danger your social life either once playing some addictive one. :steamthumbsup:
William Shakesman Jan 14, 2024 @ 9:25am 
Originally posted by Zefar:
Originally posted by William Shakesman:
As I said earlier, just off the top of my head, MMXLC2.

EDIT: Wait, no just MMLC2. MMXLC2 just doesn't run under modern PCs on normal circumstances but MMLC2 needs internet or it dies.

I have MMXL1 and 2 on my Win11 PC and those works just fine.

I tried the first MMLC1 as it has the same Enigma DRM that people complain about in MMLC2 but I can run it offline without any problem.
Put Steam into offline mode, pulled out the ethernet cable and started the game.
I did test that in MMLC2. It doesn't work. Go look at all the reviews on MMLC2 and they confirm it too. You cannot launch MMLC2 without an internet connection period.
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