Re-examine ♥♥♥♥♥♥/mature anime game fairness

[Average New Yorker]

To be straight forward and right to the point, could you have the the rules about nudity and ♥♥♥♥♥♥ content re-examined in terms of allowing or denying a game appearing on steam.

Steam inconsistency approves mature anime games and im asking for the review process to be revised. While we don't know the specifics of it, the outcome is how we know the process is flawed in this case.

There have been many great premium games that have been rejected from steam like "Tokyo Clanpool" or "Evenicle 2" that have legitimate gameplay and are not low effort shovelware or shock bait ♥♥♥♥ games like "♥♥♥ with Hitler", "♥♥♥ with Stalin", or the "My [insert relationship here] is a futanari" games.

I feel it is unfair for these games to be on the steam store, and yet the prior two I listed get rejected. Especially when there are games like Neptunia, Gal Gun, Evenicle 1, Nekopara + DLC, Sabbath of the witch, Elf Girl Pinball, Karakara Vol 1+2, Mamau and the Labyrinth, Maitetsu, Koikatsu Party, Corona Blossom, Senran Kagura, and Under Party, God Eater3, all games that are available on steam, don't have sexualization or suggestive Imagery of lolis in them. And all of those were to just name a few.

There was a similar situation with the Chaos;Head game that it was initially rejected until backlash.

I enjoy buying games on the steam platform, and have to use other storefronts to buy games that get rejected here for seemingly no reason in compassion to others.

Please make a universal stance on ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and nudity game approvals or denials.

[Average New Yorker]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Golden Unicorn:

just completely remove all pornographic games from steam, really why is steam even selling that garbage, steam should be a upstanding moral and professional platform for social gaming, not weird and seedy and likely to expose peoples weird ♥♥♥♥♥♥ preferences's to those on the friends list.

It would be a lost business opportunity. If steam doesn't sell it when they could've, that's a sale they could've profit from.

Steam by default hides games with mature content. And they have settings and filters to hide away pornographic games.

They have features like family view for accounts that are operated by kids that will hide all graphic content.

If they allowed mature games on steam without these precautions, I'd say it's a bad platform. But steam covered all their bases.

Its fine for you to not like something, but the numbers show there's a large market for it.

[Volfogg]

Hmm... I never could understand the appeal of ♥♥♥♥♥♥ content games. I mean, it is just nudity and stuff. Nothing unusual.

Anyway, you think they are willing to part with easy money from exploiting more carnal desires dwelling in people by removing such games? Kinda doubtful...

[Start_Running]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Average New Yorker:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Golden Unicorn:

just completely remove all pornographic games from steam, really why is steam even selling that garbage, steam should be a upstanding moral and professional platform for social gaming, not weird and seedy and likely to expose peoples weird ♥♥♥♥♥♥ preferences's to those on the friends list.

It would be a lost business opportunity. If steam doesn't sell it when they could've, that's a sale they could've profit from.

Not all profit is worth it.
There's seldom any profit margin to make worth toeing the pedoline.
Which is a line that is not about personal tastes but government law.

Diposting pertama kali oleh Average New Yorker:

Its fine for you to not like something, but the numbers show there's a large market for it.

nd there's a market for human slaves. Does that mean companies should dabble in slaving?
Think m8! Think!
If it's illegal the costs of getting caught with it will generally outweigh the penalties.

[William Shakesman]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Start_Running:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Average New Yorker:

It would be a lost business opportunity. If steam doesn't sell it when they could've, that's a sale they could've profit from.

Not all profit is worth it.
There's seldom any profit margin to make worth toeing the pedoline.
Which is a line that is not about personal tastes but government law.

Diposting pertama kali oleh Average New Yorker:

Its fine for you to not like something, but the numbers show there's a large market for it.

nd there's a market for human slaves. Does that mean companies should dabble in slaving?
Think m8! Think!
If it's illegal the costs of getting caught with it will generally outweigh the penalties.

People confuse personal tastes with government law all the time, especially in this thread.

[Start_Running]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Average New Yorker:

If there was a universal standard that blocked all forms of anime related ♥♥♥♥♥♥ content from being on steam we wouldn't be having this conversation so many times.

It is dishonest to say that Neptunia, Gal Gun, Evenicle 1, Nekopara + DLC, Sabbath of the witch, Elf Girl Pinball, Karakara Vol 1+2, Mamau and the Labyrinth, Maitetsu, Koikatsu Party, Corona Blossom, Senran Kagura, and Under Party, all games that are available on steam, don't have sexualization or suggestive Imagery of minors in them. And all of those were to just name a few.

This is why I am asking for the policy to be re-examined relating to anime ♥♥♥♥♥♥ or suggestive games.

Now I'm not familiar with all of those but I do know neither Gal Gun, nor Neptunia have explicit ♥♥♥ involving the characters. So You comparing them to games like '♥♥♥ with hitler' is kinda off the mark.

Diposting pertama kali oleh Average New Yorker:

Diposting pertama kali oleh AmsterdamHeavy:

♥♥♥♥ is fine. ♥♥♥♥ :♥♥♥♥: is NOT fine. Crazy to even half agree with you, but there it is.

Reminder that this thread is about inconsistency among which games get approved by steam which has lead me to conclude that steam's internal review system for anime games with ♥♥♥♥♥♥ material needs to be revisited.

Except that it's quite consistent in that the closer any game gets towards being pedophilia, the less likely it is to pass oversight.

I mean it's not that hard to see the pattern.
And devs know this, but they try to play things as close to the line because quite frankly they know who their audience is and in a competition with scores of other developers targeting the same genre thre is a finnancial incentive to find a way to stand on if not straddle the line.

Yeah the shor flat chested "I'm really a 200years old" elf girl isn't fooling anyone. The dev/pubs know why, they know what they did, They're just complaining as a means to druim up some extra publicity.

THe fix is a simple adjustment to either the art style or the the game narrative.
Draw the character(s) looking older and more mature, or remove anything sexually overtt involving said characters from the game. THey can pick which ever is easier.

Diposting pertama kali oleh Average New Yorker:

And as I said previously:

If they review it and all games with related material gets removed, great. Glad we made this thread to make it happen.

Except your idea of 'related' doesn't really map to the situation it seems. You seem to think anything with cute girls in non-overtly ♥♥♥♥♥♥ scenarios to be the samething as thisngs with clearly discernable adults in ♥♥♥♥♥♥ scenarios as the same.. They aren't.

Hence why both are allowed but never the twain.

Diposting pertama kali oleh Average New Yorker:

If they review it and they revise the language for developers, so they may be more aware of what steam accepts and doesn't on the platform, even better.

The developers know exactly what's in the game that got it flagged m8.

[Average New Yorker]

Diposting pertama kali oleh William Shakesman:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Start_Running:

Not all profit is worth it.
There's seldom any profit margin to make worth toeing the pedoline.
Which is a line that is not about personal tastes but government law.


nd there's a market for human slaves. Does that mean companies should dabble in slaving?
Think m8! Think!
If it's illegal the costs of getting caught with it will generally outweigh the penalties.

People confuse personal tastes with government law all the time, especially in this thread.

Agreed.

[Seraphita]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Average New Yorker:

Diposting pertama kali oleh William Shakesman:

People confuse personal tastes with government law all the time, especially in this thread.

Agreed.

I also like when people forget that Mirai in Senran Kagura exist. That and people always talking with their feelings rather than with facts. (Speaking of those who water down a term they should not.) It's fine to not like a game. It's even fine if Steam decides not to host a game. To say that steam is consistent in their decisions however is a lie.

[Worldzworstgamer]

Get rid of the smut Steam. It is a bad look. Gosh forbid we return to more wholesome ways in this world.

[Seraphita]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Worldzworstgamer:

Get rid of the smut Steam. It is a bad look. Gosh forbid we return to more wholesome ways in this world.

If you can't find wholesome games, I feel a little worried for you. They are all over the place and one or two games that are not for you existing doesn't change that.

[Eidolon]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Worldzworstgamer:

Get rid of the smut Steam. It is a bad look. Gosh forbid we return to more wholesome ways in this world.

I don't like that stuff either but you know that it doesn't appear at all unless you turn it on in your store settings/filters, right?

[Maria]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Worldzworstgamer:

Get rid of the smut Steam. It is a bad look. Gosh forbid we return to more wholesome ways in this world.

One man's trash is another man's treasure.

[76561198407601200]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Start_Running:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Average New Yorker:

It would be a lost business opportunity. If steam doesn't sell it when they could've, that's a sale they could've profit from.

Not all profit is worth it.
There's seldom any profit margin to make worth toeing the pedoline.
Which is a line that is not about personal tastes but government law.

Diposting pertama kali oleh Average New Yorker:

Its fine for you to not like something, but the numbers show there's a large market for it.

nd there's a market for human slaves. Does that mean companies should dabble in slaving?
Think m8! Think!
If it's illegal the costs of getting caught with it will generally outweigh the penalties.

Seems like a big fuss over wanting questionable "adult" games.

[Ben Lubar]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Seraphita:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Worldzworstgamer:

Get rid of the smut Steam. It is a bad look. Gosh forbid we return to more wholesome ways in this world.

If you can't find wholesome games, I feel a little worried for you. They are all over the place and one or two games that are not for you existing doesn't change that. :mute:

I haven't been able to find any games on Steam but it turns out I was facing away from my monitor instead of towards it. Now that I've fixed that, it turns out there are LOTS of games on Steam!

[Average New Yorker]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Average New Yorker:

Nope. But thats off topic. We are strictly talking about game related topics. Such animated stuff are protected by US law. If you have a problem with it and want it banned, then you should agree with me that there should be a universal standard, and for you it would be to not allow any of it.

Im trying to argue there are standards that aren't being universally applied on the steam platform when it comes to anime related ♥♥♥♥♥♥ content.

We are getting slightly off topic again so just gonna quote myself in saying the focus is on the outcome of the current review process leads to similar games being approved or rejected.

If you dont agree with seeing these games on steam, just create another thread asking for their removal.

[rawWwRrr]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Average New Yorker:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Average New Yorker:

Nope. But thats off topic. We are strictly talking about game related topics. Such animated stuff are protected by US law. If you have a problem with it and want it banned, then you should agree with me that there should be a universal standard, and for you it would be to not allow any of it.

Im trying to argue there are standards that aren't being universally applied on the steam platform when it comes to anime related ♥♥♥♥♥♥ content.

We are getting slightly off topic again so just gonna quote myself in saying the focus is on the outcome of the current review process leads to similar games being approved or rejected.

Which isn't going to change. The same can happen with non-sexually explicit games. It is Valve's platform. They can, at will, decide if a game can be listed on Steam for whatever reason they desire. Or, not have a reason at all.

I'm sure there are any number of games on Steam right now that someone wants removed. Either it's too DEI or not enough DEI, doesn't support Mac or Linux and therefore isn't fair, or the publisher had a controversial moment so all of their games should be delisted. Whatever.

Imagine how chaotic Steam would be if Valve left those decisions up to the userbase. And I know that's not what you're asking for, but it's why we're here now: that someone disagrees with Valve's decision about a game was not allowed on the platform while similar ones are listed..

It's not our decision to make. At the end of the day, those who want to play a particular game not on the platform will have to find other means.