The unspoken reason for the decline in video game quality.

[fumzuck1]

I am not saying that "early access" is to blame ...
I am saying that steam and other places that host these need to stop allowing them to monetize them. If its "early access" EVERYTHING ABOUT IT till release of the "live"game should be free.
It would cut back on the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ games that rip off companies have been throwing out just to make fast money then shut down or ... in cases like Just survive take a game you paid for and not compensate or refund because it was "early access" years old but somehow early access ...
Take away the cost of the game and money made from dlc till its not "early access" and you will see a big improvement in gaming .

[Animus]

Early Access is also a means for Devs to obtain funds as an investment to further their games, without it many Devs might not have been able to finish their games in the first place.

Given your gripe is about DLC, how about make it so EA games cannot drop DLC until the game's hit full release and is out of EA first?

[xBCxRangers]

Well, when i think of "game quality diminishing", it's really the Triple A's, that have no real incentive to make their games better.

They just see them as an mtx cash cow. And so whatever they may lose in sales due to diminished quality, they make up on folks who do buy it given those practices.

I think Early Access and Steam get a bad rap, being it's not those smaller games that i can tell, that are to blame for diminished quality, or otherwise small independent developers, but those who were once know for quality, now a shadow of their former selves.

[Crazy Tiger]

Or, OP, you simply ignore and don't purchase them. Such games should be available to people who enjoy them and understand what they're buying.

[Supafly]

Disagree.

If you are not prepared to play them as is and accept they may or may never change the solution is simple. Do NOT buy them.

[Al'Vi]

Why? Given that you identified it as one of the problems, then you must understand that the real problem is the fact the market found the sucker (your average gamer). Frankly, they've been bullying gamers for more than a decade now.

First they figured out they don't need to complete the product, second - they can just release a mediocre product, third - they are the ones who should dictate what gamers need, not the other way around, fourth - they can actively and openly berate gamers on social media... and gamers STILL buy their slop.

Take away EA monetization, and 1) EA will disappear, because that's the entire point of EA and 2) nothing will change, because there's a 1000 other ways to have a fool part with his money that he was lucky to get together with from the beginning.

[William Shakesman]

If we cannot have an inventory delete button because users cannot be trusted to use it correctly without complaining to Valve support, then we cannot have Early Access either for the same reason.

Personal responsibility is a two way street. It does not simply stop at taking the customers money, as some users here would prefer.

That said I don't think early access causes a decline in game quality, but it definitely provides a lot of incentives and expectations that, as we have seen, many developers are ill-prepared for.

[Start_Running]

OP.. Consider this. Early Access is at least honest and upfront as opposed to all those AAA games that release unfinished

[Al'Vi]

Start_Running の投稿を引用：

Ah todays 'Gimme free stuff" thread. Nice.
OP.. Consider this. Early Access is at least honest and upfront as opposed to all those AAA games that release unfinished

If you really think EA devs are any more honest than AAA devs then I have an unfinished future bridge to sell you If anything, you are statistically more likely to find a good AAA game vs a good EA game. At least 70% of EA games I added "blindly" to my wishlist by looking at their Steam advert and nothing else never released, and 20% more were, frankly, subpar finished products after 2-3 years of development that were quickly abandoned. EA is a cesspool from which you can (sometimes) fish out a pearl.

William Shakesman の投稿を引用：

If we cannot have an inventory delete button because users cannot be trusted to use it correctly without complaining to Valve support, then we cannot have Early Access either for the same reason.

Comparing an action that only requires a Steam account button press vs one that requires involving a financial institution, a steam account and almost guaranteed owner's knowledge with all the safeguards in-between makes absolutely zero logical sense and is a false equivalence.

[然然2222]

good

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Early Access is not to blame. Take Battlefield 2042's release or any CoD title for examples.

[rawWwRrr]

cSg|mc-Hotsauce の投稿を引用：

Early Access is not to blame. Take Battlefield 2042's release or any CoD title for examples.

:cool_seagull:

Too many to list these days.

Over promised. Under delivered. Rushed to release. Too much emphasis on the bottom line than reputation. Get the money now, fix it later.

[Doctor Zalgo]

William Shakesman の投稿を引用：

If we cannot have an inventory delete button because users cannot be trusted to use it correctly without complaining to Valve support, then we cannot have Early Access either for the same reason.

Personal responsibility is a two way street. It does not simply stop at taking the customers money, as some users here would prefer.

That said I don't think early access causes a decline in game quality, but it definitely provides a lot of incentives and expectations that, as we have seen, many developers are ill-prepared for.

We don't have a delete button because it would create work for valve. We do have early access because that creates revenue for valve.

I hope this helps.

[William Shakesman]

Doctor Zalgo の投稿を引用：

William Shakesman の投稿を引用：

If we cannot have an inventory delete button because users cannot be trusted to use it correctly without complaining to Valve support, then we cannot have Early Access either for the same reason.

Personal responsibility is a two way street. It does not simply stop at taking the customers money, as some users here would prefer.

That said I don't think early access causes a decline in game quality, but it definitely provides a lot of incentives and expectations that, as we have seen, many developers are ill-prepared for.

We don't have a delete button because it would create work for valve. We do have early access because that creates revenue for valve.

I hope this helps.

This sort of answer would be quite helpful in the vast majority of threads on this board. It would certainly cut down on the amount of imaginative fanfic employed to avoid simply saying this.

[Start_Running]

Al'Vi の投稿を引用：

Start_Running の投稿を引用：

Ah todays 'Gimme free stuff" thread. Nice.
OP.. Consider this. Early Access is at least honest and upfront as opposed to all those AAA games that release unfinished

If you really think EA devs are any more honest than AAA devs then I have an unfinished future bridge to sell you :awyea:

I'll buy it when its done. :p

Al'Vi の投稿を引用：

If anything, you are statistically more likely to find a good AAA game vs a good EA game.

False-Dichotomy. You can have a AAA EA game you know.

And as for whether or not a game is good. thats subjective.

What's objective is the state of the game in regards to bugs, glitches, content, etc. And as said. at least Early Access games are honest that there games are likely to be horribly glitchy and content lacking.

AAA games.. not so much.

Al'Vi の投稿を引用：

At least 70% of EA games I added "blindly" to my wishlist by looking at their Steam advert and nothing else never released, and 20% more were, frankly, subpar finished products after 2-3 years of development that were quickly abandoned. EA is a cesspool from which you can (sometimes) fish out a pearl.

That more sounds like you're just bad at ppicking games for yourself m8.

TThough if you have an issue with EA you're free to ignore them. I mean they only account for like 15% of the steam catalog.

[Nx Machina]

YOU are warned what an Early Access game is due to that blue banner on the store page.

It does not get any CLEARER than:

"Get instant access and start playing; get involved with this game as it DEVELOPS".

"This Early Access game is NOT COMPLETE and MAY OR MAY NOT CHANGE FURTHER. If YOU are not excited to play this game in its CURRENT STATE, then YOU should WAIT to see IF the game progresses further in DEVELOPMENT".

Is waiting a problem?

Do AAA games have the same disclaimer as EAG's? No and why we have games which were abandoned after release, still buggy etc. Mass Effect Andrimeda and Anthem to name two.

YOU adding an EAG to YOUR cart and clicking confirm is a VOLUNTARY action not a mandatory one.

YOU can exclude Early Access games in your preferences so they are not shown to YOU.