Suggesting steam makes more of a effort to promote the platform

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Free games, cheaper hardwares, better quality of service are all needed going forward, Steam has to compete now since in a competitive market that is undercutting this platform by both offering free games and better prices.

Other wise will steam go broke? selling what you have for any profit is better then never selling it at all.
Shout out to steam deck and valve index, as well as the store platform,

Who's buying a valve index in 2024?

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Postat inițial de Ben Lubar:

Postat inițial de Start_Running:

COnsidering Steam is already at the level of awareness saturation.. not much to be gained from promoting anymore than it already has. Like literally every game on steam's platform is in essence a promotion of said platform.


Also Valve doesn't offer prices. dev/pubs do. Valve has no hand in that. Same for free giveaways . That's up to the devs. and yes some stores may be undercutting, But the thing is they're cutting themselves to do so.

But you know there's a store that keeps giving away free stuff all the time. They'd love to have you as a user. You should spend your time there.

Fun story about why it's very important that sales are up to the devs from a podcast in 2019:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjLrJCizRiE

Relevant section starts at 7:30-ish, but I highly recommend listening to the whole thing if you've got half an hour.

II remember when the EGS learned the HARD WAY why the store should never tamper with the prices.

Postat inițial de Majestically Awkward:

It's relative to time frames, example one platform will give the game away for free while steam still has the game for 39.99 dollars. Because steam is always changing it's prices and offering sales everything is based on time frame.

You will find the opposite being true where the game is marked down or being given away on steam but being full price elsewhere. This especially hapopens when one store is having a sales event but another isn't.

heck some dev/pubs of the sneaky sort use this as a way to get around the limitations pretty much any store places on how long and how frequently you can post an item on discount.

So yeah your example isn;t really an example of anything specific or unique. Itt's like you just noticed that different stores have sales at different times. WHat you will find if you pay attention is that the discounts are always the same.

[William Shakesman]

Nobody actually wants these threads or OP gone. They are always the most popular threads on this forum and it isn't even close.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Postat inițial de Majestically Awkward:

I dunno apparently if it's two words it's censored. If it's one word it's acceptable, funny I noticed that as well and fixed my message, no worries about the topic shift, it is sad that we can not engage in conversation beyond topic related issues, it's silly we are all here to discuss things and conversations evolve.

Its really board topic suggesting steam make more of a effort is also suggesting it fixes it's broken policy's intended to offend or cripple the discussion

You can't put free and that other word together like that because people used free and skins put together to spam scam sites years ago.

[Gwarsbane]

Postat inițial de Majestically Awkward:

Suggesting steam makes more of a effort to promote the platform

Free games, cheaper hardwares, better quality of service are all needed going forward, Steam has to compete now since in a competitive market that is undercutting this platform by both offering free games and better prices.

Other wise will steam go broke? selling what you have for any profit is better then never selling it at all.
Shout out to steam deck and valve index, as well as the store platform,

Who's buying a valve index in 2024?

Postat inițial de Majestically Awkward:

It's relative to time frames, example one platform will give the game away for free while steam still has the game for 39.99 dollars. Because steam is always changing it's prices and offering sales everything is based on time frame.

Try to understand the concept of algebra where we us variable strings in place of numbers or names

Example on steam. X=39.99
Example on other platform. X = free

If your using windows 11 it doesn't matter what you block, they still market you based on your past IP address search's, if you have a Microsoft account logged in they know everything

Gacha and mobile gaming can be fun specially when you freeroll them and get good pulls

This happens because that is a deal made with the platform to give it away. Epic, pays the game developer/publisher/IP owner of the game money to give the game away. Why do you think they are hundreds of millions of dollars away from even just breaking even with the store let a lone making any kind of profit. The only thing keeping the store open is fortnite money.

Don't take my word for it, just look at Epics own words. Because they are a publicly traded company they have to release all this kind of information publicly every year or every quarter or something like that for the investors. If they lie about anything then not only can they get fined millions, but someone could easily go to prison.

Valve doesn't need to do anything. Pretty much the only people who don't know about Steam either don't play video games at all, or don't have computers.


Valve doesn't have to pay developers to give away games. Developers do that all the time on their own on Steam.

Valve and other stores have some sales at different times... so yes of course at times, games will be cheaper else where then on Steam... just like they will be cheaper on Steam then on other platforms at times.

Valve doesn't have to advertise anywhere. Every time a game is release and its on Steam, its advertised that the game is on Steam.

Valve doesn't need to make their hardware cheaper, if they did, they would lose money. They don't want to be like epic. Valve doesn't have to give away the Steam Deck, they already did that a couple of times already during events.

Valve doesn't control the price of the games, thats 100% up to the developers. They also control the price on every other platform that they officially sell on. So if you want cheaper games, then complain to them. And no, Valve dropping the percentage they take won't actually lower the price of games. The companies will keep selling the games for the prices they do now and just pocket the difference.


Valve makes record profits every single year... they are not going broke anytime soon, unless they listen to people like you who seem to hate Valve and Steam.

Postat inițial de William Shakesman:

Nobody actually wants these threads or OP gone. They are always the most popular threads on this forum and it isn't even close.

How about you speak for yourself and not the rest of the people on the forums. I would be MORE then happy if they were both gone.

OP keeps making threads like these, even though they have been around along time. They are just trolling. But if we don't post the correct information, people that don't know any better will think they are correct. So yes, this is why I would like to see threads like this gone along with the OP who keeps making them.

[Ben Lubar]

Postat inițial de Gwarsbane:

Don't take my word for it, just look at Epics own words.

Here are some of Epic's own words:
https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/news/epic-games-store-2020-year-in-review

Note that in 2020, they gave away more games than people spent dollars on their store.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Postat inițial de William Shakesman:

Nobody actually wants these threads or OP gone. They are always the most popular threads on this forum and it isn't even close.

False.

[Brian9824]

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Postat inițial de Majestically Awkward:

Free games, cheaper hardwares, better quality of service are all needed going forward, Steam has to compete now since in a competitive market that is undercutting this platform by both offering free games and better prices.

Other wise will steam go broke? selling what you have for any profit is better then never selling it at all.
Shout out to steam deck and valve index, as well as the store platform,

Who's buying a valve index in 2024?

Valve's kind of a monopoly at this point. They don't need to attract users or devs. They hold the whip hand and devs just keep crawling back even when they disagree with Valve's policies or implementation.

Your confused between being the most popular store, and being a monopoly. There are no barriers to entry, and nothing Steam does interferes with new stores opening up as Epic proved so there is no illegal monopolies.

Your just seeing the result when a store provides a superior service compared to its competitors. It makes a ton of money and its competitors do poorly. It's an easy subject to get confused on when you haven't done the proper research on it so don't feel bad

[Nx Machina]

Postat inițial de Majestically Awkward:

It's relative to time frames, example one platform will give the game away for free while steam still has the game for 39.99 dollars. Because steam is always changing it's prices and offering sales everything is based on time frame.

Epic pays for those games, hence why the store has yet to generate a profit and the store has being for open 5+ years.

Prices are set by the developer, publisher of those 3rd party games, they also decide the size of the discount.

Example: Metro Exodus Gold Edition (full price) - £34.99 on Steam, Epic and GOG.

[Nx Machina]

Postat inițial de William Shakesman:

Valve's kind of a monopoly at this point. They don't need to attract users or devs. They hold the whip hand and devs just keep crawling back even when they disagree with Valve's policies or implementation.

GabeN disagrees.

https://www.pcgamer.com/gabe-newell-says-everybody-benefits-from-competition-with-epic/

"Competition in game stores is awesome for everybody. It keeps us honest, it keeps everybody else honest," Newell said.

[Unicorn Slayer]

Why would steam go broke? They are making record breaking sales year after year so clearly what they are doing is working. I'd be more worried about GoG which operates at a loss or a very tiny profit most years, or EPIC which i've heard has lost over a billion dolars.

Out of all the gaming stores out there Steam is the most profitable and stable one by far

[Crazy Tiger]

Postat inițial de The Unicorn Slayer:

Why would steam go broke? They are making record breaking sales year after year so clearly what they are doing is working. I'd be more worried about GoG which operates at a loss or a very tiny profit most years, or EPIC which i've heard has lost over a billion dolars.

Out of all the gaming stores out there Steam is the most profitable and stable one by far

Because that's the narrative across all their alts. And anybody who doesn't jump the bandwagon is fake, of course.

It's quite funny that OP pretends to be worried about Steam going broke, while at the same time always wanting Valve to give free stuff and sell their hardware at losses.

[Unicorn Slayer]

Postat inițial de Golden Unicorn:

it really does look one of the more popular threads on the discussion right now.

I browsed the forums and assuming you mean this thread as one of the more popular ones on the discussion forum right now - https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/5824898961045291652/

It is indeed nice to see people give away free games. I never see free games being given away by users on the EPIC forum, in part because I suspect EPIC must lie about their user numbers since you never see any of their members posting on their forums.

Definitely can't be this thread as its not popular at all, anymore then any thread on a conspiracy theory with no proof is

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Postat inițial de William Shakesman:

Valve's kind of a monopoly at this point. They don't need to attract users or devs. They hold the whip hand and devs just keep crawling back even when they disagree with Valve's policies or implementation.

GabeN disagrees.

https://www.pcgamer.com/gabe-newell-says-everybody-benefits-from-competition-with-epic/

"Competition in game stores is awesome for everybody. It keeps us honest, it keeps everybody else honest," Newell said.

I suapect gabe's use of the word 'Honest' was a nice little jab at Sweeney. especially given the shennanigans they tried to rope Valve into.

Postat inițial de The Unicorn Slayer:

Postat inițial de Golden Unicorn:

it really does look one of the more popular threads on the discussion right now.

I browsed the forums and assuming you mean this thread as one of the more popular ones on the discussion forum right now - https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/5824898961045291652/

It is indeed nice to see people give away free games. I never see free games being given away by users on the EPIC forum, in part because I suspect EPIC must lie about their user numbers since you never see any of their members posting on their forums.

Definitely can't be this thread as its not popular at all, anymore then any thread on a conspiracy theory with no proof is

I suspect this sorta advertises that their goal is and always has been just craving attention.
Which , is honestly kinda sad. Makes me genuinely worry about them. In the. 'A family member or friend should check in on them occasionally' kinda way.

It was sorta funny the first month or so. tedious thereafter, but now, now its just reached the point of sadness.

[Thermal Lance]

Ah. The return of the tin cup.

[William Shakesman]

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Postat inițial de Majestically Awkward:

Suggesting steam makes more of a effort to promote the platform

Free games, cheaper hardwares, better quality of service are all needed going forward, Steam has to compete now since in a competitive market that is undercutting this platform by both offering free games and better prices.

Other wise will steam go broke? selling what you have for any profit is better then never selling it at all.
Shout out to steam deck and valve index, as well as the store platform,

Who's buying a valve index in 2024?

Postat inițial de Majestically Awkward:

It's relative to time frames, example one platform will give the game away for free while steam still has the game for 39.99 dollars. Because steam is always changing it's prices and offering sales everything is based on time frame.

Try to understand the concept of algebra where we us variable strings in place of numbers or names

Example on steam. X=39.99
Example on other platform. X = free

If your using windows 11 it doesn't matter what you block, they still market you based on your past IP address search's, if you have a Microsoft account logged in they know everything

Gacha and mobile gaming can be fun specially when you freeroll them and get good pulls

This happens because that is a deal made with the platform to give it away. Epic, pays the game developer/publisher/IP owner of the game money to give the game away. Why do you think they are hundreds of millions of dollars away from even just breaking even with the store let a lone making any kind of profit. The only thing keeping the store open is fortnite money.

Don't take my word for it, just look at Epics own words. Because they are a publicly traded company they have to release all this kind of information publicly every year or every quarter or something like that for the investors. If they lie about anything then not only can they get fined millions, but someone could easily go to prison.

Valve doesn't need to do anything. Pretty much the only people who don't know about Steam either don't play video games at all, or don't have computers.


Valve doesn't have to pay developers to give away games. Developers do that all the time on their own on Steam.

Valve and other stores have some sales at different times... so yes of course at times, games will be cheaper else where then on Steam... just like they will be cheaper on Steam then on other platforms at times.

Valve doesn't have to advertise anywhere. Every time a game is release and its on Steam, its advertised that the game is on Steam.

Valve doesn't need to make their hardware cheaper, if they did, they would lose money. They don't want to be like epic. Valve doesn't have to give away the Steam Deck, they already did that a couple of times already during events.

Valve doesn't control the price of the games, thats 100% up to the developers. They also control the price on every other platform that they officially sell on. So if you want cheaper games, then complain to them. And no, Valve dropping the percentage they take won't actually lower the price of games. The companies will keep selling the games for the prices they do now and just pocket the difference.


Valve makes record profits every single year... they are not going broke anytime soon, unless they listen to people like you who seem to hate Valve and Steam.

Postat inițial de William Shakesman:

Nobody actually wants these threads or OP gone. They are always the most popular threads on this forum and it isn't even close.

How about you speak for yourself and not the rest of the people on the forums. I would be MORE then happy if they were both gone.

OP keeps making threads like these, even though they have been around along time. They are just trolling. But if we don't post the correct information, people that don't know any better will think they are correct. So yes, this is why I would like to see threads like this gone along with the OP who keeps making them.

I AM speaking for everyone on this forum. He is giving you the opportunity to argue online and make you feel like you're saving Steam by doing so. There is no greater gift he could give you. I need only point to the last thread where he does some silly Orson Welles tier comedy bit on census numbers and the person who chomps on the bait admits it is entertaining to sit there and throw googled census numbers back at him. Whatever your protestations are, you guys cannot stop showing up here.

I hope for your sake you are doing a bit like OP but if you are not, you are vastly overestimating the amount of people who read this forum. Only like 20 regulars tops ever come here. You are also overestimating how many people are actually reading these threads. Nobody reads these arguments. Anyone who reads more than five words of OP and doesn't IMMEDIATELY pick up that he's doing a bit isn't going to be operating at a level where he can be convinced by your carefully worded serious rebuttals to comedy posting.

You don't understand the game being played here at ALL. YOU are the audience. The posts are for YOU. The arguments are for YOU. If you all could control yourselves and just laugh off an obvious bit you would have never had a problem with this guy. He posts random stream of consciousness stuff and you all cannot possibly scramble to Wikipedia fast enough to debunk it line by line to nobodys benefit but your own.

All he is doing is dropping rakes and you all rush to be the first to stomp on them. I have never seen such sillyness from people trying to take themselves seriously.