Restrict what forums free accounts can post in and Give developers options to limit posters to non free accounts on their forums

[Angry Old Man]

Similar to how game dev's have the ability to designate their forums to only be for game owners,

• If they implement this they MUST have a designated forum for free users, just like game owners have to be able to post in a forum
  
• Make this option not allowable on F2P games

This will help developers keep the forums clean and limit the damage done by spammers using free accounts.

Similar functionality can be adopted for steam where the New to Steam forums and the Help and Tips forum for instance can be open to free accounts, but for other accounts it requires the user to have a paid account in order to post.

If they own the game that would treat them as being a paid account even if its from a 3rd party site and their steam account is still limited

EDIT - Per Tito Shivian apparently my idea is already in effect on the forums to all the naysayers, so it should be adopted for the Steam forums as well

[Angry Old Man]

Originally posted by mldb88:

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Why is it I get the feeling this is one of those "too specific" suggestions where someone is mad Steam for not banning a couple of people he is specifically mad at for behavior that does not break the rules and thus wants new rules to target them specifically?

Remember, as senior regulars of this board often say, the policy is not up for debate.

If you had actually read the thread you’d see no one is debating policy. A suggestion has been posed, and discussion of the possible benefits of said suggestion are being put forth. No one is debating what steams policy is, unlike other threads in which the line “policy is not up for debate” has been used.

It's always interesting to see who is threatened by a suggestion where they can't even post any negatives to it and try to attack the poster instead.

[TheGraveDigger]

Devs can already limit game forums to game owners

[Angry Old Man]

Originally posted by TheGraveDigger:

Devs can already limit game forums to game owners

Yes, if you read the thread this to take the same type of functionality and expand it to be able to limit forum access for free accounts. So only paid accounts can post.

[eram]

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Why is it I get the feeling this is one of those "too specific" suggestions where someone is mad Steam for not banning a couple of people he is specifically mad at for behavior that does not break the rules and thus wants new rules to target them specifically?

Remember, as senior regulars of this board often say, the policy is not up for debate.

can you show me 1 post where someone has said the exact words the policy is not up for debate? because the only thread i can find where anyone has said that was you in this thread

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by eram:

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Why is it I get the feeling this is one of those "too specific" suggestions where someone is mad Steam for not banning a couple of people he is specifically mad at for behavior that does not break the rules and thus wants new rules to target them specifically?

Remember, as senior regulars of this board often say, the policy is not up for debate.

can you show me 1 post where someone has said the exact words the policy is not up for debate? because the only thread i can find where anyone has said that was you in this thread

Misinformation is the M.O.

[William Shakesman]

Originally posted by eram:

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Why is it I get the feeling this is one of those "too specific" suggestions where someone is mad Steam for not banning a couple of people he is specifically mad at for behavior that does not break the rules and thus wants new rules to target them specifically?

Remember, as senior regulars of this board often say, the policy is not up for debate.

can you show me 1 post where someone has said the exact words the policy is not up for debate? because the only thread i can find where anyone has said that was you in this thread

By all means. It appears Steam's high quality search tool has failed another customer. People need to stop trusting it so much or expectong people to use it before posting if it cannot turn up such a simple phrase.
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/6733519464636665316/?ctp=52#c4767711099757047846

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/4132682093267511708/?ctp=8#c7119694643860491767

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/595139573830393405/?ctp=2#c595139573830448664

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Originally posted by eram:

can you show me 1 post where someone has said the exact words the policy is not up for debate? because the only thread i can find where anyone has said that was you in this thread

Misinformation is the M.O.

Strange habit people have around here to call facts they do not like to hear "misinformation." Just another word misused to the point of meaninglessness now it seems.

[eram]

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Originally posted by eram:

can you show me 1 post where someone has said the exact words the policy is not up for debate? because the only thread i can find where anyone has said that was you in this thread

By all means. It appears Steam's high quality search tool has failed another customer. People need to stop trusting it so much or expectong people to use it before posting if it cannot turn up such a simple phrase.
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/6733519464636665316/?ctp=52#c4767711099757047846

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/4132682093267511708/?ctp=8#c7119694643860491767

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/595139573830393405/?ctp=2#c595139573830448664

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Misinformation is the M.O.

Strange habit people have around here to call facts they do not like to hear "misinformation." Just another word misused to the point of meaninglessness now it seems.

Yes the forum search didn't find that but how did you? Because its the same user 3 times. Are you sure it's a thing or just him?

[Angry Old Man]

Originally posted by eram:

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

By all means. It appears Steam's high quality search tool has failed another customer. People need to stop trusting it so much or expectong people to use it before posting if it cannot turn up such a simple phrase.
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/6733519464636665316/?ctp=52#c4767711099757047846

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/4132682093267511708/?ctp=8#c7119694643860491767

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/595139573830393405/?ctp=2#c595139573830448664




Strange habit people have around here to call facts they do not like to hear "misinformation." Just another word misused to the point of meaninglessness now it seems.

Yes the forum search didn't find that but how did you? Because its the same user 3 times. Are you sure it's a thing or just him?

I've seen others use similar wording to say things aren't up for debate , nothing inherently wrong with it as its just their opinion which holds no more weight then anyone else's opinion.

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

That the major modding monopolies ban these mods as a matter of policy is not a matter of debate but of fact.

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

There's really no room for debate on this.

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Attempting to debate like this is fruitless as assuming the rules are objective and can be mutually agreed to across different cultures is a category error

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Any further debate over the review averages or their appropriateness is pure dishonest navel gazing trying to draw the topic away from the point.

Which again, if someone feels a debate or discussion on a topic is pointless then they are free to not participate. The rest of us can still continue to do so even if in the end it never amounts to anything.

[William Shakesman]

Originally posted by eram:

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

By all means. It appears Steam's high quality search tool has failed another customer. People need to stop trusting it so much or expectong people to use it before posting if it cannot turn up such a simple phrase.
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/6733519464636665316/?ctp=52#c4767711099757047846

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/4132682093267511708/?ctp=8#c7119694643860491767

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/595139573830393405/?ctp=2#c595139573830448664




Strange habit people have around here to call facts they do not like to hear "misinformation." Just another word misused to the point of meaninglessness now it seems.

Yes the forum search didn't find that but how did you? Because its the same user 3 times. Are you sure it's a thing or just him?

It may be just him as I am not exactly collecting links like these. He is a highly respected member of this board after all though. I had to go back to threads where I could recall personally seeing the phrase to dig this up. So I have no evidence or specific recollection beyond just him, so it could just be he says it a lot.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Originally posted by eram:

can you show me 1 post where someone has said the exact words the policy is not up for debate? because the only thread i can find where anyone has said that was you in this thread

By all means. It appears Steam's high quality search tool has failed another customer. People need to stop trusting it so much or expectong people to use it before posting if it cannot turn up such a simple phrase.
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/6733519464636665316/?ctp=52#c4767711099757047846

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/4132682093267511708/?ctp=8#c7119694643860491767

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/595139573830393405/?ctp=2#c595139573830448664

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Misinformation is the M.O.

Strange habit people have around here to call facts they do not like to hear "misinformation." Just another word misused to the point of meaninglessness now it seems.

So one person is "senior regulars"?

Yeah, I would say that classifies as misinformation. Also borderline obsession as well.

[The Commendatore]

Originally posted by The Squire of Gothos:

As a limited user, I say remove the ability for limited account to post completely.

You wanna post? Pay up.

So selfless, a true hero.

[Angry Old Man]

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

so it could just be he says it a lot.

I mean you say similar, and again, what is wrong with one user having an opinion? Everyone is allowed to have their opinion.

Just like when you said on anoither thread

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

There's really no room for debate on this.

Thats your opinion and its fine you have it, it doesn't make you right or wrong, or negate anyone else from discussing it even if you feel that its not up for debate.

EVERYONE should debate the idea, thats why its posted to public forums, i'll disagree if I feel your wrong, but everyone is free to have an opinion on this topic.

This idea for instance is pretty basic and its not really unusual as many businesses have separate sections for paying customers vs free users.

[William Shakesman]

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

By all means. It appears Steam's high quality search tool has failed another customer. People need to stop trusting it so much or expectong people to use it before posting if it cannot turn up such a simple phrase.
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/6733519464636665316/?ctp=52#c4767711099757047846

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/4132682093267511708/?ctp=8#c7119694643860491767

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/595139573830393405/?ctp=2#c595139573830448664




Strange habit people have around here to call facts they do not like to hear "misinformation." Just another word misused to the point of meaninglessness now it seems.

So one person is "senior regulars"?

Yeah, I would say that classifies as misinformation. Also borderline obsession as well.

"Could you provide me evidence?" "The fact that you have evidence is proof you are obsessed!"

Another rerun. That said I have been told that phrasr several times. If it was that guy every time then fine. I will accept that over months I forget one guy is the only guy saying something and I did not count that it was one guy. I do not pay attention to names on a forum.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

So one person is "senior regulars"?

Yeah, I would say that classifies as misinformation. Also borderline obsession as well.

"Could you provide me evidence?" "The fact that you have evidence is proof you are obsessed!"

Another rerun. That said I have been told that phrasr several times. If it was that guy every time then fine. I will accept that over months I forget one guy is the only guy saying something and I did not count that it was one guy. I do not pay attention to names on a forum.

You claimed it was multiple people. Is that not was regulars means?

You are also completely ignoring this conveniently;

Originally posted by Angry Old Man:

Originally posted by eram:

Yes the forum search didn't find that but how did you? Because its the same user 3 times. Are you sure it's a thing or just him?

I've seen others use similar wording to say things aren't up for debate , nothing inherently wrong with it as its just their opinion which holds no more weight then anyone else's opinion.

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

That the major modding monopolies ban these mods as a matter of policy is not a matter of debate but of fact.

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

There's really no room for debate on this.

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Attempting to debate like this is fruitless as assuming the rules are objective and can be mutually agreed to across different cultures is a category error

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Any further debate over the review averages or their appropriateness is pure dishonest navel gazing trying to draw the topic away from the point.

Which again, if someone feels a debate or discussion on a topic is pointless then they are free to not participate. The rest of us can still continue to do so even if in the end it never amounts to anything.

[William Shakesman]

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

"Could you provide me evidence?" "The fact that you have evidence is proof you are obsessed!"

Another rerun. That said I have been told that phrasr several times. If it was that guy every time then fine. I will accept that over months I forget one guy is the only guy saying something and I did not count that it was one guy. I do not pay attention to names on a forum.

You claimed it was multiple people. Is that not was regulars means?

You are also completely ignoring this conveniently;

Originally posted by Angry Old Man:

I've seen others use similar wording to say things aren't up for debate , nothing inherently wrong with it as its just their opinion which holds no more weight then anyone else's opinion.









Which again, if someone feels a debate or discussion on a topic is pointless then they are free to not participate. The rest of us can still continue to do so even if in the end it never amounts to anything.

I am not conveniently ignoring it. I am correctly ignoring it. A series of unrelated out of context quotes of every time I have ever said debate completely irrelevant to any context of this conversation and saying that any statement one might have about a debate is mere opinion is not something that I need to respond to at all. Not every post needs a fruitless argument. This thread has had quite enough of a derail. I intend to do quite the opposite of ignoring that post next time someone tells me that something is not up for debate now that I know the official board position on whether things may be up for debate. And I hope to see you do the same now that the behavior has been brought to your attention and you have deemed it inappropriate.