Steam Rent a private Server/ buy a private server

[Ryo Tetsuda]

hello I had an epiphony the other day... Steam always sets up all these dedicated servers for their Steamos based games and stuff... well why not do rent a servers for some of your games so that clans may rent a private server and password protect them so that only clan members and or friends of those members may enter... this would work great against griefers on survival games and stuff as well as allow for games with huge traffic to allow players to play on their own private servers with friends while waiting for the dedicated servers to come available...

I could think of several ways to do payments for them... monthly, tri monthly ( every 3 months), every 6 months, yearly, and lifetime... also make them modding supported so that mods supported by steam could be easily attached to various servers or removed so that admins can customize their own private servers... also if you made it so that your private server could be transferable between games say if your clan lost an interest in one game make the server able to add another game ( ie the initial server was for Rust, transfer that server into a private ARK: survival evolved server or make it able to have both games running for an extra fee), servers could also be upgraded or downgraded depending on the clans needs.... ie 10 user servers, 20 user servers, 40 user servers...

I could easily see this idea being verry popular for steam... and it would save alot of grief of people getting scammed or hacked on non legit server rental companies...

imo this would be more proffitable than the Steam machines and stuff.. and quite possibly easier to implement.

[Black Blade]

Well there are all ready hosts out there for these, so why dose Valve need to do it as well?

[Ryo Tetsuda]

A) safer, B) less laggy to steam hoasted games and C) steams going into making computers and consoles... thats been an established market sinse the 60's also steam could make it more easily modded with safer to use mods...

[Gwarsbane]

Safer from what? Never picked up a virus or anything from a 3rd party host ever and I've been playing for a long time.


Just because they would be from Steam doesn't mean they will be less laggy. It all depends on where the servers are to your location.

The Steam "console" is pretty much just a computer with a specialized linux OS on it. You could wipe them and put on windows and it would work just fine. Its not even steam making them, they are all 3rd party venders with steam putting their stamp on them.



Also think about this, if you rent from a 3rd party host, you usually have your choice of where servers are so if its laggy, tell them to move it to another server or go rent somewhere else. If you have any issues you always respond very very quickly. Steam has 300 people and not very many of them do steam support. Think how long it would take for them to reply with issues you are having. Usually with a hosting issue you need a response in minutes or hours and not weeks.

[Ryo Tetsuda]

Originally posted by Gwarsbane:

Safer from what? Never picked up a virus or anything from a 3rd party host ever and I've been playing for a long time.


Just because they would be from Steam doesn't mean they will be less laggy. It all depends on where the servers are to your location.

The Steam "console" is pretty much just a computer with a specialized linux OS on it. You could wipe them and put on windows and it would work just fine. Its not even steam making them, they are all 3rd party venders with steam putting their stamp on them.



Also think about this, if you rent from a 3rd party host, you usually have your choice of where servers are so if its laggy, tell them to move it to another server or go rent somewhere else. If you have any issues you always respond very very quickly. Steam has 300 people and not very many of them do steam support. Think how long it would take for them to reply with issues you are having. Usually with a hosting issue you need a response in minutes or hours and not weeks.

you missed my point with the reply to the steams making consoles... the guy said theres no point in going into an established market... steams doing just that with consoles and stuff and would be more likely to fail with the consoles than renting servers... he had an invalid point by saying steams going into an established market also because steam entered an established market quite a while ago when they first opened and they did just fine...

I see the rent a server as a step further into that market...

steam could provide cheap servers for established games easily modded with safe steam supported mods... and just because you have never picked up a virus from a mod makes all mods virus free? no... reason i say they would be safe is because steam will not allow a mod if its got a virus...

I feel this would be a smarter investment than steam starting its own line of computers/consoles whatever that in todays market are pretty much guaranteed to fail...

the specs on these new console/computers arent even that good and they want alot for them... if they turned these steam machines into servers rentable for your own clan and stuff itt'd be more economical for them as well as us

[andsim]

i agreed with you Choppagignut

[baymax2201]

it a good idea that could mzke them money and stop piracy

[ KARR™]

Originally posted by Choppagignut:

A) safer, B) less laggy to steam hoasted games and C) steams going into making computers and consoles... thats been an established market sinse the 60's also steam could make it more easily modded with safer to use mods...

a> its not safer
b> it wouldn't be less laggy it would just a server in a datacentre like any other provider
c> Steam (valve) aren't making computers or consoles, the people who make the machines are the ones that make them, valve are just advertising and offering them a 'bonus' if they supply them with their IS installed.
d> people would complain when it takes a week for someone to reset the rcon password via steam support!

[Gwarsbane]

Originally posted by K.A.R.R.:

Originally posted by Choppagignut:

A) safer, B) less laggy to steam hoasted games and C) steams going into making computers and consoles... thats been an established market sinse the 60's also steam could make it more easily modded with safer to use mods...

a> its not safer
b> it wouldn't be less laggy it would just a server in a datacentre like any other provider
c> Steam (valve) aren't making computers or consoles, the people who make the machines are the ones that make them, valve are just advertising and offering them a 'bonus' if they supply them with their IS installed.
d> people would complain when it takes a week for someone to reset the rcon password via steam support!

ya I pointed all that out to them, they didn't seem to like my answer. Maybe if they don't like it coming from K.A.R.R. we can try from someone named K.I.T.T. next :)

[USMCsky]

It would beat the heck out of the current service I am getting from Nitrado. I need a solid place to host a gameserver. Based on several threads and my own recent experience, Nitrado is not it. I would love for Steam to be a one stop shop.

[Start_Running]

Originally posted by Choppagignut:

A) safer

False. Any private server is probably running it's own little teak and widget a so you're no more safe from a private server being run by Valve, or in someone's basement.

, B) less laggy to steam hoasted games

Again not neccessarily true. The person renting the server would have to choose the hosting bandwidth package and if they couldn't afford it elsewhere they'd likely not be able to afford it from steam. Secondly. You'd be limited to where steam has it server farms. The advantage of a private server is that it's usually catering to a bunch of people within a relatively small geographic area. A Campus, a town a city and county.... and since distance is the biggest constant determinant of ping... yeah basement hosting wins out over valve.

C) steams going into making computers and consoles... thats been an established market sinse the 60's also steam could make it more easily modded with safer to use mods...

This just makes no sense so I'll skip it.

Point is, there's no real benefit from having Valve hosted private servers as opposed to you know any other specialized hosting servers.