Show my recent login locations & timestamp in steam to allow me to monitor account access like Gmail does

[Veejs7er]

if I can find IP address, timestamp by myself within the steam client or any log files, or using an API? I am sure as a user I should be able to see my exact account activity? Like what Gmail does, it shows me where I logged in from last, the ip, country, time ...etc. Allows me to kick them out. Does steam have a feature like that? I can see the last x active sessions? This will become every more necessary with family sharing

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

I think that allowing a user to see their own recent login IPs, locations, and timestamps is a good idea.

Also allow the user to see recent login attempts.

[Black Blade]

It dose sound somewhat nice
But did you think what will happen if someone hack into your account? i mean will you like the guy to know were you live?

I really prefer for that not to happen
And Steam Guard sends you an Email with the new locasin you login from... so you can use that to track it maybe? just set a filter to put that email in one folder

[Tito Shivan]

The feature is useless for the case that's asked for.
If a hijacker takes control of your account, you'd be unable to log in, which makes the list superfluous.
Then there would be the huge ammount of people panicking because they don't understand IP adresses and doing dumb things out of panic.

A list of Steamguard enabled devices (and a way of individually managing them) could get better use.

[Ambooooobs]

ME I HAVE LOG IN
OTHER PC IN THE COMPUTER SHOPS/ICAFE
THEN I LOG OUT THEN I GO HOME AND OPEN MY ACC
THEN I RECIEVED A MESSEGE THAT IM BAN TRADE FOR 7DAYS :(
ITS BEEN 7DAYS NOW BUT IM STILL BAN TRADE CAN ANYONE HELP ME?
THIS STEAM IS BECOMING SUCKS NOW :( WHY CANT U REMEMBER THAT ITS MY IP

[Black Blade]

Originally posted by can`t trade 1more days :):

ME I HAVE LOG IN
OTHER PC IN THE COMPUTER SHOPS/ICAFE
THEN I LOG OUT THEN I GO HOME AND OPEN MY ACC
THEN I RECIEVED A MESSEGE THAT IM BAN TRADE FOR 7DAYS :(
ITS BEEN 7DAYS NOW BUT IM STILL BAN TRADE CAN ANYONE HELP ME?
THIS STEAM IS BECOMING SUCKS NOW :( WHY CANT U REMEMBER THAT ITS MY IP

first caps locking is not going to help
Second you have your own tread don't just start posting on everyones treads like these as well as its not related to your IP

[Veejs7er]

You guys raise some valid points.
However, once you are able to recover your account you can then track down the hijackers. But how to protect your IP information from hijackers? Maybe only allow access after steamgaurd notification? I.e. behind 2nd factor.

Attempted logins are very important for identifying hijack attempts as well.

[Scutterman]

I think that Steam has this information, and they are better placed to deal with the hijackers. Giving it to the users wouldn't be that useful.

[Τhe Rolling Cheese Wheel]

Originally posted by Black Blade (Study again \(-.-)/:

It dose sound somewhat nice
But did you think what will happen if someone hack into your account? i mean will you like the guy to know were you live?

I really prefer for that not to happen
And Steam Guard sends you an Email with the new locasin you login from... so you can use that to track it maybe? just set a filter to put that email in one folder

What does it matter? Any hackers worth their salt that phishes account aren't looking for where you live, they want the content on the account. Furthermore an IP address doesn't reveal your exact location, only a proximity, in other words it's completely useless for hackers. Your IP address can't possibly allow hackers to steal your identity. Your anonymity is already protected by your ISP anyways.

Also your IP is completely public. If a hacker really wants to, they can pull your IP anytime they wish.

[Veejs7er]

Scutterman, the problem is steam is overwhelmed, and they cannot take actions that as an individual you or i can. All I'm asking is that we have access to our own login history (and attempted logins). That is information that we generate and should have access to.

[Black Blade]

Originally posted by Τhe Rolling Cheese Wheel:

What does it matter? Any hackers worth their salt that phishes account aren't looking for where you live, they want the content on the account. Furthermore an IP address doesn't reveal your exact location, only a proximity, in other words it's completely useless for hackers. Your IP address can't possibly allow hackers to steal your identity. Your anonymity is already protected by your ISP anyways.

Also your IP is completely public. If a hacker really wants to, they can pull your IP anytime they wish.

That is a good point and really i do not know... i am trying to think on any reason for Valve to remove it.. you are more then welcome to help me find a better reason for it to be removed

[Scutterman]

Originally posted by Veejs7er:

they cannot take actions that as an individual you or i can.

What actions are you planning to take? You can't determine their exact location, or any other personal information, from their ip address. Even if you could, ip addresses can be spoofed, proxied, or confused by using a compromised computer to send the request from. Valve, on the other hand, will be able to report this information to organisations who have the resources and authority to work with ISPs and track the login all the way back to the original source.

[Veejs7er]

Scutterman you seem to have a lot of faith in bureaucracy. I don't. My choice of action was to get in touch with the hacker, and talk to him/her. Figure out their motivations and try to guide them? Show them that at the other end, is a live person not just a program on the computer. Most users apologize for actions when caught in person, however the internet makes that difficult. This is the attempt to have the culprit interact with their victims.

The IP allows attempts at communication, identification ...etc. Sure the information could be obfuscated, but it depends on the time within which you attempt all this, if you do it immediately after a few minutes of an attempted login, you are sure to get an individual. At a later date, perhaps not.

[Τhe Rolling Cheese Wheel]

Originally posted by Veejs7er:

Scutterman you seem to have a lot of faith in bureaucracy. I don't. My choice of action was to get in touch with the hacker, and talk to him/her. Figure out their motivations and try to guide them? Show them that at the other end, is a live person not just a program on the computer. Most users apologize for actions when caught in person, however the internet makes that difficult. This is the attempt to have the culprit interact with their victims.

The IP allows attempts at communication, identification ...etc. Sure the information could be obfuscated, but it depends on the time within which you attempt all this, if you do it immediately after a few minutes of an attempted login, you are sure to get an individual. At a later date, perhaps not.

You're too optimistic. Any hackers that attempts to break in to accounts has only one goal and one goal only, to steal accounts. They are not interested in talking. They couldn't possibly care less of who you are.

[Veejs7er]

Maybe, I won't know until I try.

The last hacker into my account was a kid from serbia, a teenager, I found his facebook page and everything. From all I could understand he wasn't a hard core hacker, but a newbie to computers, somebody probably introduced him to a tool that allowed simple hacking attempts. A "script kiddie" so to speak. If he realized that these are not victimless crimes, maybe he would reconsider his approach. I am saying maybe.

It is quite easy and simple to make assumptions, that's why so many people make them. It rationalizes actions not taken. However reality is known only after acting, not before.

[Τhe Rolling Cheese Wheel]

Originally posted by Veejs7er:

If he realized that these are not victimless crimes, maybe he would reconsider his approach.

hahahaha good one .. let me try that the next time I confront a shop lifter, and see if that person doesn't shop lift again. Or better yet maybe I'll try to confront a group of thieving pirates and see if they will change their ways.

A person that downloads hack tools and then proceeds to use to steal something they don't own will most certainly know what they are doing. They aren't braindead or stupid, they are well aware they are stealing from other people. Accounts don't spawn out of thin air. Someone has to make the account and buy things for the account, surely even a script kiddie can see this.