djallad Feb 13, 2014 @ 2:03am
Show game "Terms & Conditions" before purchase
Sometime back I purchased the indie-game Ballpoint Universe - Infinite. The reviews were great, and the idea seemed interesting. However when I installed the game, I was presented with "Terms & Conditions" which were not acceptable to me. If I had seen it before, I would have rethought my decision to purchase. But what could I do, I had already paid for it; so I agreed to them.

My suggestion would be, have a way to see the "Terms & Conditions", if any, specific to a game before a purchase. I realise not many read them, but having this option could be a new "good practise" that Valve can introduce.

Thanks for any thoughts.
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TeKraken Feb 13, 2014 @ 2:06am 
Just out of curiosity... what was in this EULA that you disagree with over all the other EULAs?
djallad Feb 13, 2014 @ 4:17am 
It said I did not purchase a copy of the game, it was licensed to me, and so on and so forth. If the publishers (Arachnid games) only intend to license their product to me, I would like to know that before I pay for it.
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ONe_mOMENT Feb 13, 2014 @ 4:36am 
Your aware that anything you buy on steam falls under the same basic concept right?
You aren't buying the game as such, your just buying the rights to use said game.

"The Software is licensed, not sold. Your license confers no title or ownership in the Software. "
Which is applicable to anything you buy on steam.

That's taken from SSA. Something you already agreed to. http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement
Black Blade Feb 13, 2014 @ 5:04am 
Originally posted by djallad:
It said I did not purchase a copy of the game, it was licensed to me, and so on and so forth. If the publishers (Arachnid games) only intend to license their product to me, I would like to know that before I pay for it.
You know almost any software or music you buy to day is like that ya? and was so also in the past
(I have a music disk telling me to give it back to the owners after 50 years if it works :D: just want to point that out.. as i do not own it they do)
TeKraken Feb 13, 2014 @ 5:10am 
As a steam subscriber you are buying a subscription to use the game. All of the games you have on steam are only "subscriptions to use".

Read the SSA.
Satoru Feb 13, 2014 @ 11:32am 
Originally posted by djallad:
It said I did not purchase a copy of the game, it was licensed to me, and so on and so forth. If the publishers (Arachnid games) only intend to license their product to me, I would like to know that before I pay for it.

Uh.. the SSA says the exact same thing when you register a game or purchase a game on Staem. There's nothing 'different' in the EULA for that game that you already haven't agreed to already via steam

Also all games are 'licensed' to you. This has been standard protocol for decades.
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djallad Feb 13, 2014 @ 2:33pm 
I somehow seem to have missed that part in the Steam SSA. Thanks for pointing it out. I guess I noticed it now because I mostly purchased games outside Steam and redeemed them later in Steam. I haven't used proprietary software regularly in many years, I guess that is why I wasn't aware that this was standard practise these days; lesson learned. Thanks again.
Satoru Feb 13, 2014 @ 2:49pm 
Originally posted by djallad:
I somehow seem to have missed that part in the Steam SSA. Thanks for pointing it out. I guess I noticed it now because I mostly purchased games outside Steam and redeemed them later in Steam. I haven't used proprietary software regularly in many years, I guess that is why I wasn't aware that this was standard practise these days; lesson learned. Thanks again.

Then taht makes even less sense because when you register a game on steam teh SSA pops up like a giatn wart before you register the game....
djallad Feb 13, 2014 @ 2:54pm 
Originally posted by Satoru:
Then taht makes even less sense because when you register a game on steam teh SSA pops up like a giatn wart before you register the game....

Well I got Steam codes en masse mostly from Humble Indie Bundles, I don't recall the SSA showing up when using those codes. Anyway, now I know. I'll be even more careful to what I agree/use. I don't have much time to play games anyway.
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