Suggestions for Steam: To help "big" YouTubers

[victoriaisbored]

So here's the thing. I watch a bunch of streams from Minx and Cry, and other YouTubers and I notice that they almost constantly get friend invites on Steam. Ohm and Minx have talked about how sometimes Steam won't even load because there are over hundreds of friend invites. I think Steam needs to have an option for filtering friend invites. Like, obviously Minx and Cry have their friends set in stone by now, so they should have the option to stop receiving friend invites. For example; if someone goes to their page, they won't see an "Add Friend" button, and they won't see a "Send Message" button either. If they want to add someone knew, they can do it themselves, but this way, YouTubers like Pewdiepie, Gassy Mexican, Cryaotic, and Seananners can not have to worry about their Steam crashing from constant invites. It doesn't matter how many times they say not to add them on Steam, people just won't stop, and it's making it harder for those people to enjoy Steam the way the rest of us do.

[Spawn of Totoro]

I think they should have known this would happen and created a separate account for their Youtube shows and using another one to play.

I know I would have if I made a Youtube show.

If it isn't something that everyone can utilize or needs, then there is no reason for it to be made for a few people. Even Gabe Newell has an account. There is a reason why no one knows what it is.

[victoriaisbored]

Цитата допису Spawn of Totoro:

I think they should have known this would happen and created a separate account for their Youtube shows and using another one to play.

I know I would have if I made a Youtube show.

If it isn't something that everyone can utilize or needs, then there is no reason for it to be made for a few people. Even Gabe Newell has an account. There is a reason why no one knows what it is.

Nonono, I know what you are saying, but obviously it would be something that anyone can use. And I don't know if you have noticed, but when they play on multiplayer, you can see their names. It doesn't matter if they make another account, you will be able to find them regardless. You can even find them through names they have used before. I have a YouTube channel of my own and if I ever got to the level of "youtube fame" that the current big group of gaming YouTubers are at, I would want the option available.

[Τhe Rolling Cheese Wheel]

They can click on ignore all, pretty easy solution. They can also disable friends pop-up.

[Gus the Crocodile]

I think it's a great suggestion. Even Facebook lets you limit friend requests to only come from friends of friends, rather than everyone. As Steam is a gaming platform first and social network second, I think it makes perfect sense to be able to disable them entirely if people want to do that.

Suggesting people run two entirely separate accounts (ie. pay again for all the relevant games) just so they don't have their notifications constantly filling up with spam seems completely absurd.

[Spawn of Totoro]

Цитата допису Gus the Crocodile:

Suggesting people run two entirely separate accounts (ie. pay again for all the relevant games) just so they don't have their notifications constantly filling up with spam seems completely absurd.

Not really. One for their "business" and one for their personal use. One a public account that they make videos with and where people know who they are, and another that can't be associated with them.

If someone is going to become popular in such a way (what Youtuber isn't after all) then they should be aware of the downside to that fame in advance. Just like an actor who becomes famous then starts complaining about the paparazzi always taking their picture.

They tend to have two Facebook accounts. One for themselves and one for their "business" that us usually maintained by other people. This way they can have some sort of privacy and don't have to worry about people stalking them on-line.

Even a "friends of friends" filter would get flooded. The friends would get flooded by people just to get to the main person. Then that puts the pressure on the friends, not on the Youtuber. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to put my friends through that.

I have never heard of an issue with too many requests preventing a log-in/loading. At the most, it would just take time for the person to clear all the invites.

[Gus the Crocodile]

I wasn't proposing a friends of friends setting (not that I'm against it as an option: the fact that you wouldn't personally use a particular setting for whatever reason doesn't invalidate it), I was using it as an example to say hey, even Facebook, that thing that seems to raise ridiculous levels of hate around here, has better privacy options than Steam.

I maintain that this "they should know better" stuff is victim-blaming nonsense. All suggestions can be dismissed this way, if it's so reasonable. "No, Steam shouldn't have Big Picture, people should just realise in advance that PC gaming isn't about playing on TVs with controllers". "Steam shouldn't bother with voice chat, people should just make do with text, it works fine for me".

You don't actually have anything to say about why this suggestion shouldn't be implemented, as far as I can tell, just assurances that there are rather pricey workarounds. But the nature of workarounds is that people prefer actual solutions, hence the suggestion.

[Spawn of Totoro]

Цитата допису Gus the Crocodile:

You don't actually have anything to say about why this suggestion shouldn't be implemented, as far as I can tell, just assurances that there are rather pricey workarounds. But the nature of workarounds is that people prefer actual solutions, hence the suggestion.

I haven't heard any reason why it should be or in what way. The issue seems to be a "slowdown" of the client when logging in to Steam but I have yet to see or hear of any other instance of this.

The suggestion doesn't match the reason and is, it's self, a workaround.

As no actual suggestion or a way to lessen the issue perceived issue has even been suggested, it is more a complaint then a suggestion.

Big Picture mode is a feature that people have said they wanted and it makes sense as it is being used by many. A feature that is being suggest would only be used by a few (I've never seen anyone complain about too many friends, only about having not enough room for friends). At the cost and manpower needed to make it a feature for so few people, why would it be done, especially as it doesn't address what seems to be the main complaint of the OP.

Then again, why have those who it is supposed to be affecting not suggested it, but instead don't seem to act as it is a real issue.

Creating two account isn't a pricy workaround either. I have two accounts for myself. It was free to make and I don't make money off of the use of either account, there as they make money off their Youtube channels. They could still use on account for the game and personal use, while making a second account for the public face...at no cost. I don't see how it is pricy at all, especially if you include family sharing.

[Gus the Crocodile]

I hadn't factored in the possibility of using Family Sharing, yeah, that definitely makes "just make another account" a better option.

I wasn't defending the suggestion on the grounds of the "slow loading/crashing" angle. I mean I have no idea if that happens or not, but I think people should be able to cut down on notifications from randoms regardless, for the same reason email accounts have spam filters. Any additions to privacy options are good additions, as far as I'm concerned.

[victoriaisbored]

Цитата допису Spawn of Totoro:

Цитата допису Gus the Crocodile:

I haven't heard any reason why it should be or in what way. The issue seems to be a "slowdown" of the client when logging in to Steam but I have yet to see or hear of any other instance of this.

I did in fact mention that the YouTubers Minx and Ohm have mentioned during a Krinx stream that they have trouble logging in, that steam crashes, and if I remember correctly, Dlive agreed.

I'm not saying that this needs to be a thing for only a few people, it should be available for everyone.

I'm not one to need it right now, but if I ever become popular as a YouTuber to the point where random fans start adding me, I would like the option available.
And no one should have to deal with the problem in the first place. Just because you haven't heard of it, doesn't mean it's not happening. The fact that you haven't heard of any other instances is because of your place or group on the internet. You won't see every single thing. but I have seen what you haven't. There is an abundance of "big" YouTubers and they have over thousands of fans.

People like the GameGrumps, and Zack Scott. LDShadowlady and SmallishBeans. They are obviously dealing with people adding them almost everyday. And if you had the same issue that they did, you would want an option to block friend requests all together, especially if you already have a main group of friends.

Celebrities have to deal with Poparazzi, not people trying to be their friends. Celebrities are friends with people they know and trust, this is the same for famous YouTubers. YouTubers' form of poparazzi are probably the fans during their streams in the chat section that spam messsages trying to get their attention.
But adding a fan as a friend, you don't know if you can trust them, they could be a stalker.
People don't get that YouTubers that are "famous" will not add them, no matter how much they are told to stop.