Valve needs to innovate right now; "Own nothing and be happy" is not valid

[Moonlapsed]

block chain physical media redemption? IDK you are billionaires. Figure it out its your job you horrible, terrible people.

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Originally posted by Moonlapsed:

block chain physical media redemption? IDK you are billionaires. Figure it out its your job you horrible, terrible people.

If it is regarding licensing look at the other topics instead of creating duplicates. Best of luck, blocked, etc.

[Caduryn]

Let me guess....

Another one who never read any Eula or ToS the last 30 Years

[DarkCrystalMethod]

Still bummed that the Valve store is gone. No way to buy "Raising The Bar", 3 turret moon t-shirts or TF2 mousepads anymore.
I'd like to own a little bit of nothing if you don't mind. Please bring your swag store back, Valve.

[HulaGirl86]

>Valve needs to innovate
Yeah
>"Own nothing and be happy" is not valid
A law change is the only thing that will change this.
>block chain physical media redemption
Block chain technology was great until Quantum Computers started cracking encryption.
>IDK you are billionaires. Figure it out its your job
Steam is a fine line of DRM and ownership. Only time ownership has been revoked has been stolen 3rd party keys from a sketchy grey market seller. I agree they need something that protects users if for some reason their leadership changes. EA notoriously ended Origin, revoked peoples game access, then after forcing them to sign up for the new EA play app never gave them the games they purchased back.

Seems like there needs to be legal planning where even if you are forever banned for posting in discussion or uploading artwork, your game licenses will only be revoked in the case of provable theft along with some sort of post mortem plan for inheriting a user name.

[William Shakesman]

Originally posted by Caduryn:

Let me guess....

Another one who never read any Eula or ToS the last 30 Years

Given the recent judicial rulings regarding them, judges and lawyers also number in the folks who have not read EULA or TOS in the last 30 years. The more these show up in court, the more surprising rulings are probably going to come out.

[Tito Shivan]

Love how the California law has had exactly the very same result I said it'd have.

Confuse the hell out of people.

Originally posted by Moonlapsed:

block chain physical media redemption?

It's charming you thinking blockchain is the solution to your problem.

[R4VI4TOR]

Originally posted by Moonlapsed:

block chain physical media redemption? IDK you are billionaires. Figure it out its your job you horrible, terrible people.

Dude the moment you install Steam for the first time they tell you to thumbs up to LICENSE Agreements. Not Ownership. Has been like this since its first release 20 years ago. We never owned any games redemed on this platform. I knew this, understood this, and agreed to this.
The service has been non comparable to other inferior platforms with similar LICENSE agreements. U want to own PC games ? You have to buy Games from the 1980-early 2000 in CD Rom Form.

[rawWwRrr]

Originally posted by Moonlapsed:

block chain physical media redemption?

You feel scammed that you don't own the games on Steam, but your first suggestion is to introduce the biggest scam in tech industry today?

[Haruspex]

I look forward to the day that this manufactured outrage fades away from the collective goldfish memory of folks, like all the rest.

Absolutely nothing has changed besides a little image and explanation upon checkout that you're buying a license. It's the same as it's been in Steam's 20+ year history. It's the same as it's been in the 14 years OP has been using Steam. It's the same as it's been in the entire history of video games from the very beginning. Even when you bought a cartridge, you only own the plastic, not the software it contains. That part is licensed to you.

I'm not sure why Steam of all companies has received the brunt of this phony outrage. Is it because they were the first to clarify that part of the EULA that nobody has ever read on checkout in compliance with the California law that hasn't gone into effect yet? Every single other digital distribution service works the same way, yes, including GOG.

If you want to get bent out of shape as to whether we own our games or not, why not go after the consoles where it's really shifty? In the past 40 years, I've bought the original Legend of Zelda 5 different times for NES, GBA, 3DS, Wii, and NES Classic Edition. 5 different purchases, and Nintendo still requires me to subscribe to a recurring service just to rent access to that game on a Switch. Meanwhile 20 years on Steam and I can still play every single game I've ever bought no matter what machine I'm using.

Valve has not taken away anyone's licenses in the 20 years they've been in business, and they show no indication that they ever will.

[William Shakesman]

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:

Love how the California law has had exactly the very same result I said it'd have.

Confuse the hell out of people.

Companies enjoyed a lot of benefits by not having given the courts any reason to take a look at these agreements. As with most houses built on sand, the time to pay that bill was eventually going to come due. It is why you see such a push in software to go to explicit subscriptions.

[🍋 Lemonfed 🍋]

blockchain is still (or at least involve) someone else computers.

it doesn't change anything to the EULA or the fact that you only own a license to use the product.

[Start_Running]

Originally posted by Moonlapsed:

block chain physical media redemption? IDK you are billionaires. Figure it out its your job you horrible, terrible people.

You don't own nothing. And there's nothing blockchain does that a simple rdb does do way better.

[davidb11]

Originally posted by HulaGirl86:

>Valve needs to innovate
Yeah
>"Own nothing and be happy" is not valid
A law change is the only thing that will change this.
>block chain physical media redemption
Block chain technology was great until Quantum Computers started cracking encryption.
>IDK you are billionaires. Figure it out its your job
Steam is a fine line of DRM and ownership. Only time ownership has been revoked has been stolen 3rd party keys from a sketchy grey market seller. I agree they need something that protects users if for some reason their leadership changes. EA notoriously ended Origin, revoked peoples game access, then after forcing them to sign up for the new EA play app never gave them the games they purchased back.

Seems like there needs to be legal planning where even if you are forever banned for posting in discussion or uploading artwork, your game licenses will only be revoked in the case of provable theft along with some sort of post mortem plan for inheriting a user name.

The NSA was trying to make a Quantum Computer about 8 years ago for the sole purpose of getting through 1028 bit encryption.
I would be amazed if somehow random people can access a Quantum Computer that can do that.

Current Quantum Computers might as well be the Abacus in terms of power. :P Basically, they're glorified 286s.
They are not even as good as they need to be to do basically anything fancy.

Let alone Hack.

Blockchain has what to do with hacking exactly?

[Tito Shivan]

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Companies enjoyed a lot of benefits by not having given the courts any reason to take a look at these agreements.

Note courts have nothing to do with the California law. It's not a court ruling, it's purely state regulation.

Originally posted by 🍋 Lemonfed 🍋:

blockchain is still (or at least involve) someone else computers.

"Everything you can do I can do better" The relational database said to the blockchain.

Besides, thinking you 'own' a game because some place in a blockchain sais you do has the same ground as saying you own an ape pic because you own an NFT of it.

[Crashed]

Originally posted by Moonlapsed:

block chain physical media redemption? IDK you are billionaires. Figure it out its your job you horrible, terrible people.

Nothing changed, except maybe going by all these posts the rules against spam.