Update all

[ac19189]

I STRUGGLE with making sure my steam deck is up to date before i go out where I won't' have wifi or at the very least fast wifi. Can we PLEASE get a update all button that can push ALL scheduled updates to download while I am at home with fast internet.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by ac19189:

Update all

I STRUGGLE with making sure my steam deck is up to date before i go out where I won't' have wifi or at the very least fast wifi. Can we PLEASE get a update all button that can push ALL scheduled updates to download while I am at home with fast internet.

It used to be a feature. Valve took the Download/Update All button away when covid happened to save bandwidth and I don't think it is ever returning.

[ac19189]

Why would this save bandwidth no matter how you look at it the update will still take place plus now they save bandwidth by pulling the updated file directly from my pc rather than a steam server so it only updates once for my network then it shares among the other devices.

Edit: Also I can some what understand this from a pc client side but the steam deck it will cripple you. For example I attempted to play my steam deck while I waited in the parking lot at walmart while the girlfriend shopped and because walmarts wifi was connected to the system it said OH YOU CANT PLAY THIS GAME TILL IT UPDATES!

Now that would be fine at home where I have 2gig internet but walmarts wifi is like 35mbps not gonna install a 1 or 2 gig update very fast and unable to play the game without an update because it got a breath of internet when I turned it on

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by ac19189:

Why would this save bandwidth no matter how you look at it the update will still take place plus now they save bandwidth by pulling the updated file directly from my pc rather than a steam server so it only updates once for my network then it shares among the other devices.

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/46BD-6BA8-B012-CE43

[ac19189]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Originally posted by ac19189:

Why would this save bandwidth no matter how you look at it the update will still take place plus now they save bandwidth by pulling the updated file directly from my pc rather than a steam server so it only updates once for my network then it shares among the other devices.

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/46BD-6BA8-B012-CE43

:nkCool:

... I am not even sure why you posted a link to that with regards to the idea. First off I know this feature is a thing I use it ALL the time on my deck the issue is that keeping the deck up to date before I leave can be a pain when so many things drop for updates over night and a one click and done would be much faster than clicking download on everything one at a time.

I won't leave the house without my deck updated because I have had issues with me turning my deck on and it randomly connecting to a public wifi I used at one point and it seeing a game is out of date which is enough for you to be unable to play the game before you update it.

However my internet at home and LAN is much faster than public wifi I cant really download 1gig worth of updates on walmarts wifi unless I plan on playing three hours after I turn it on.

[rawWwRrr]

Change the Updates setting on each installed game to High Priority and they'll skip the scheduling. Updates will install as soon as the Deck sees them available.

[ac19189]

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

Change the Updates setting on each installed game to High Priority and they'll skip the scheduling. Updates will install as soon as the Deck sees them available.

.. I mean its a work around to the problem for sure but that is an incredible amount of extra work on my part as a user for something that could be resolved with an update all button.

[rawWwRrr]

Originally posted by ac19189:

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

Change the Updates setting on each installed game to High Priority and they'll skip the scheduling. Updates will install as soon as the Deck sees them available.

.. I mean its a work around to the problem for sure but that is an incredible amount of extra work on my part as a user for something that could be resolved with an update all button.

Haven't seen an update all button in years with countless requests for one since, leads me to believe it's not coming back soon. We roll with changes and adapt.

Sure, it's a manual and tedious process, but it works when you set the installed games to High Priority. This was the default behavior that existed before the scheduling was implemented. I've got over 3000 games installed on my PC, another dozen or so on my Deck, all set to High Priority updates. I never miss an update.

[ac19189]

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

Originally posted by ac19189:

.. I mean its a work around to the problem for sure but that is an incredible amount of extra work on my part as a user for something that could be resolved with an update all button.

Haven't seen an update all button in years with countless requests for one since, leads me to believe it's not coming back soon. We roll with changes and adapt.

Sure, it's a manual and tedious process, but it works when you set the installed games to High Priority. This was the default behavior that existed before the scheduling was implemented. I've got over 3000 games installed on my PC, another dozen or so on my Deck, all set to High Priority updates. I never miss an update.

Yeah clearly that's the way to go just rather aggressive of an option I have over 200 games installed on one of my steam decks alone and even more on the other one... Just feels like a LOT of extra work for a device they advertised as a PICK UP AND GO, KEEP PLAYING WITHOUT STOPPING so on. Like the amount of times I have ran into a game installed on my deck that I want to play but cant due to an update is part of the reason I avoid playing on it.

Between the lack the steam deck SYNCING with the cloud correctly half the time and updates always being five miles long it makes it seem like I spend more time troubleshooting and updating then I do playing the thing.

[William Shakesman]

The Deck certainly does add a lot of usability issues regarding updates that Valve has failed to consider just focusing on the PC market. The Deck may just be a handheld PC but it's still very different from a normal PC and Valve needs to assess the usability of their features for the Deck. One size fits all for these features is clearly the wrong approach.

[ac19189]

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

The Deck certainly does add a lot of usability issues regarding updates that Valve has failed to consider just focusing on the PC market. The Deck may just be a handheld PC but it's still very different from a normal PC and Valve needs to assess the usability of their features for the Deck. One size fits all for these features is clearly the wrong approach.

I very much can agree with this for sure. I really do love the steam deck but its very clunky with regards to jumping from pc to portable. I can make a list of issues I have faced with the steam deck but my top three would be as followed.

Updates clearly this would be the biggest issue I have faced as you can tell by this post. I have gone to play a game and because the steam deck connected to a public wifi when I turned it on it was enough to make installed games unplayable with no workaround.

Next issue has been save files! If the game does not support cloud save you might as well forget about it. That simple end of story! The way proton works when you have a save file that is created via the game using proton that same file will not work on windows nor could you move the save between the two. Kind of like Mac and Windows just out of luck.

Last issue I have with the deck is the sync which is ironic considering the issue above this is save files. For me sync half of the time claims it has uploaded and synced to the cloud only to have my windows client tell me that its out of date from the last sync. So again even when you want to just switch between the two its near impossible without troubleshooting sync.

I could make a list off issues with the deck both with regards to one size doesnt fit all to a list of annoying bugs. Like not being able to connect to bluetooth audio devices without going into desktop mode first. Wireless headsets it detects fine without desktop mode but more advice devices like a car stereo forget about it.

[Nx Machina]

Originally posted by ac19189:

.. I mean its a work around to the problem for sure but that is an incredible amount of extra work on my part as a user for something that could be resolved with an update all button.

I am positive IF you pay a portion of Valve's bill to it's service provider and a portion of the upkeep costs of the servers, they MAY consider your suggestion.

Secondly it is not just Valve but also others such as CDPR who schedule updates on GOG Galaxy.

[Ben Lubar]

If you don't want updates to be delayed to spread out bandwidth usage, set your games' update priority to High.

[William Shakesman]

Originally posted by Nx Machina:

Originally posted by ac19189:

.. I mean its a work around to the problem for sure but that is an incredible amount of extra work on my part as a user for something that could be resolved with an update all button.

I am positive IF you pay a portion of Valve's bill to it's service provider and a portion of the upkeep costs of the servers, they MAY consider your suggestion.

Secondly it is not just Valve but also others such as CDPR for who schedule updates on GOG Galaxy.

Users already do that. It is baked into the price of games on Steam

[ac19189]

correct the operational costs are baked into the sales of games that''s why until a game reaches a set amount of sales they get 30% off every sale. The reason steam has made it this far is due to the fact it works well this way and they make money. Setting clients to schedule out updates over the week rather then when they post does not save on bandwidth because at the end of the week it still gets used the only exception to that is the end of the month billing period.

If you watch youtube on your cell phone it uses the same data you would have used from the start it just falls on another day unless you move it to end of month but they schedule system doesn't even do that so its not a bandwidth issue. AT best this is a server load issue where they are trying to limit how many active connections at once so it doesn't overload the servers.

HOWEVER that being said I am not calling for a change in the default operations of the client I am asking for a option to download everything at once no matter how you look at it before i leave for the day ALL of it will get downloaded so the bandwidth will not be saved it just adds extra steps for me.

Now that I am using high priority as a work around its more harmful then a download all button. You see now I am changing how the client directly handles all games both on my PC and my deck all because the lack of a download all button. What I mean by this is before I only wanted to have my steam deck update before I left for the day so I could play everything as where my PC is connected to the internet all the time so I didn't care about the scheduled updates. Thus only my deck when I turn it on once every few days or week would download everything as where my client at home would download on a scheduled update.

Now both my deck and my PC update as soon as it comes out bypassing the scheduled update all the way around thus putting a higher load on the server all the time rather than some of the time from a MANUAL download all button.

In the end if enough people use high priority it will defeat the purpose of the scheduled downloads so why not off up a option for the steam deck interface to download all to stop people from looking at a work around causing a bigger issue.

[ac19189]

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/a-minor-tweak-to-steam-will-soon-let-you-change-the-way-you-download-that-monstrous-250gb-update

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