Mickey 2016 年 1 月 21 日 下午 1:15
visual novel / anime 'games' should have their own seperate store section
im not a fan of anime, not into visual novels or these hentai porn games valve has been allowing on to steam recently. no offense to fans of the genre(s), but i personally dont care for or want to see these games on the store page, or in my que. every single one thats been in my que i have said 'not interested' on, and yet steam still continues to recommend these games to me.

Sorry, but i just dont think dating sims or porn games or even anime visual novels should be on the main store screen in the 'games' categories. it should be like software, in a seperate section of the store you have to navigate to to find. or at least a way to completely disable the genre from showing up on your screen.

unless there is a way to do this already that I do not know, this is something valve should implement IMO. i just dont want to see porn games and anime harem visual novel stuff on steam. id rather pretend doesnt exist by not seeing them.
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Washell 2016 年 1 月 21 日 下午 1:45 
引用自 SolarPulse
these hentai porn games valve has been allowing

Non of those have been allowed on Steam. There are some racy visual novels, but Duke Nukem Forever, The Witcher Games and the Saints Row games are pornier than any visual novel on Steam. Which, fair enough, people complain about too. If actual Hentai games were on steam, you'd know it by the torches and pitchfork crowds in front of their headquarters being in the news.

Better filters and better recommendations are a must, but lets implement them for the correct reasons.
最后由 Washell 编辑于; 2016 年 1 月 21 日 下午 2:05
Black Blade 2016 年 1 月 21 日 下午 2:17 
I think also finthing games like Ultra Street Fighter IV and Blade Symphony need to have there own area, i do not like them, and there for they do not need to sell with everything i do like
(not really)

But honstly now, i can understand you may not like something, but that dose not mean someone else dose not, that it needs to be taken away, insted i think you be better asking for better filters to be able to hide what you may not like
Mickey 2016 年 1 月 21 日 下午 2:28 
引用自 Washell
引用自 SolarPulse
these hentai porn games valve has been allowing

Non of those have been allowed on Steam. There are some racy visual novels, but Duke Nukem Forever, The Witcher Games and the Saints Row games are pornier than any visual novel on Steam. Which, fair enough, people complain about too. If actual Hentai games were on steam, you'd know it by the torches and pitchfork crowds in front of their headquarters being in the news.

Better filters and better recommendations are a must, but lets implement them for the correct reasons.

i consider censored versions of visual novels that have easily accessed pornography with simple patches still to be porn. I think my main difference with those games compared to these visual novel types is that it isnt the whole game, and the focus of the whole game. Visual novels are not what i consider games and should be seperate from the game section.

I think also finthing games like Ultra Street Fighter IV and Blade Symphony need to have there own area, i do not like them, and there for they do not need to sell with everything i do like
(not really)

But honstly now, i can understand you may not like something, but that dose not mean someone else dose not, that it needs to be taken away, insted i think you be better asking for better filters to be able to hide what you may not like

I dont see the point of this post. There is a difference between games and visual novels/hentai porn. i think they should be seperate, no need to get all uppity and inflammatory about it.

im not trying to be the morality police here, or tell you what to like or not like. I think they should be seperated from the games AND better filters to be developed.

edit: seems like you didnt really read my post but just skimmed it. I didnt ask them to be removed from steam, just seperated from the game section.
最后由 Mickey 编辑于; 2016 年 1 月 21 日 下午 2:31
Black Blade 2016 年 1 月 21 日 下午 2:54 
引用自 SolarPulse
i consider censored versions of visual novels that have easily accessed pornography with simple patches still to be porn. I think my main difference with those games compared to these visual novel types is that it isnt the whole game, and the focus of the whole game. Visual novels are not what i consider games and should be seperate from the game section.
You do, but what abut others?, also what abut casual games, do they need to go with hardcore games?

引用自 SolarPulse
I dont see the point of this post. There is a difference between games and visual novels/hentai porn. i think they should be seperate, no need to get all uppity and inflammatory about it.

im not trying to be the morality police here, or tell you what to like or not like. I think they should be seperated from the games AND better filters to be developed.
So what abut GTA, The Wither, and the outher games with nudes in them? do they not need to also move there?

In the end it depends on how you see it, and i really do not think that taking it out for the others is correct on any way, if at all GTA and the Wither are worst on the matter, as you can see some nude in it, with out any moding or anything needed

引用自 SolarPulse
edit: seems like you didnt really read my post but just skimmed it. I didnt ask them to be removed from steam, just seperated from the game section.
I read it, and said the same...
最后由 Black Blade 编辑于; 2016 年 1 月 21 日 下午 2:54
Mickey 2016 年 1 月 21 日 下午 3:22 
i dont think your argument really holds any water. comparing open-world 60$ AAA titles to visual novel porn games is apples to oranges.
Black Blade 2016 年 1 月 21 日 下午 3:25 
引用自 SolarPulse
i dont think your argument really holds any water. comparing open-world 60$ AAA titles to visual novel porn games is apples to oranges.
How so?
These is a game you like, these is not

Beyond that, how dose that not the same?
is visual novel a game or not, its in debate
Is it been AAA mean anything compere to indie? Not at all
Dose the cost mean anything? Not at all
Is it been open-world matters here? no how will it?

So what is your point? how is these not compering each other, and i just picked these games as they are known, not as they are the only once with these
Mickey 2016 年 1 月 21 日 下午 3:28 
youre just repeating the same thing over and over. im not gonna respond anymore. your logic isn't sound. treating full fledged AAA games as the same thing as visual novels, an entirely different medium, makes no sense.

its the same thing as movies, they sell movies on steam but they can appear in game sections - i dont think this is right either.
最后由 Mickey 编辑于; 2016 年 1 月 21 日 下午 3:28
Black Blade 2016 年 1 月 21 日 下午 3:30 
引用自 SolarPulse
youre just repeating the same thing over and over. im not gonna respond anymore. your logic isn't sound. treating full fledged AAA games as the same thing as visual novels, an entirely different medium, makes no sense.
How am i repeating my self? i reply to what you said
I ask you to show me how its that deferewnt that you cant compere it, can you show that hold water?, or you cant?
Or in other words, is these really what you think, that there not fitting to be with other games, or is it a simple, i do not like it, so take it out of my sight?
Mickey 2016 年 1 月 21 日 下午 3:32 
same argument, different words. different mediums like Visual Novels, or movies, or non-games, should be in different categories in the steam store than actual games. it has nothing to do with what I like or dislike, that was just frame of reference as to why i brought the point up in the first place. so youre saying you think all forms of media on sale in the store should be in the 'games' section? why? makes no sense.
最后由 Mickey 编辑于; 2016 年 1 月 21 日 下午 3:35
Gus the Crocodile 2016 年 1 月 21 日 下午 3:45 
I would love for Valve to let you not see the types of games you're not interested in. But that shouldn't require splitting up the store based on some individuals' arbitrary decisions that certain things aren't "actual games". To me the split here seems very much to be one of genre, not medium.
Mickey 2016 年 1 月 21 日 下午 3:48 
引用自 Gus the Crocodile
I would love for Valve to let you not see the types of games you're not interested in. But that shouldn't require splitting up the store based on some individuals' arbitrary decisions that certain things aren't "actual games". To me the split here seems very much to be one of genre, not medium.
i mentioned anime visual novels because thats the majority of visual novels on steam. i think ive seen maybe 2-3 that werent anime themed. i even plan to read the f2p one about pro starcraft that ive had dl'ed for a long time. but i still dont think that should show up in the 'games' section either - its not a game.

either way, we should have a better ability to remove stuff like this from our store pages, ques, and feeds. i dont want to see movies or visual novels or non-games on my store pages, you might disagree, but the downside for you is minimal if they change it to what im suggesting. im not asking them to be removed from steam entirely, just from the 'games' section. i think thats reasonable. Worst comes to worst, if you disagree, you simply have to click to another section to get your fix of electronic picture books.
最后由 Mickey 编辑于; 2016 年 1 月 21 日 下午 3:50
v1ataz 2016 年 1 月 21 日 下午 3:48 
yeah man
Gus the Crocodile 2016 年 1 月 21 日 下午 4:07 
引用自 SolarPulse
i mentioned anime visual novels because thats the majority of visual novels on steam. i think ive seen maybe 2-3 that werent anime themed.
I think you misunderstand my point. When I say to me this is about genre, I'm not talking about anime and non-anime being genres of visual novel. I'm talking about visual novels being a genre of videogames. I disagree with your assertion that these things should not be labelled games.

引用自 SolarPulse
Worst comes to worst, if you disagree, you simply have to click to another section to get your fix of electronic picture books.
"Worst comes to worst, you see a few products you're not interested in while browsing the store", not a problem, right? Oh, it is? So inconvenience to you requires change, but inconvenience to others can be casually dismissed? Mhm.

No, better filters solve this for everyone, without anyone having to put up with the store being built around the preferences of one particular group.
Black Blade 2016 年 1 月 21 日 下午 4:09 
引用自 SolarPulse
same argument, different words. different mediums like Visual Novels, or movies, or non-games, should be in different categories in the steam store than actual games. it has nothing to do with what I like or dislike, that was just frame of reference as to why i brought the point up in the first place. so youre saying you think all forms of media on sale in the store should be in the 'games' section? why? makes no sense.
Yet, i did not hear how its not the same, beyond your own personal look at it
And as i said, is virtual Noval a game or not? its under debate, as much as i know there is no clear saying on that
Just for one examples some of them have multiple endings, so how dose that in a way deffer from playing lets say a text based advancher game?
Or playing any game that you have only once choise like liner games? what really makes the defrence here?

You asking to move it to its own section, yet you did not say how its not fitting into games

Do movies need to go into games? No... why? there not games and there is no debate abut that is there? (maybe there is if Meta Gear solid is a game or a movie, but that is something else :D:)

Yes i do give some what of the same thing to ask in defrent words, and in the end i keep going on the same point, as i yet stick to the same view... not sure what you like me to do abut that
But so far i did not get a reply to what i ask, how is it not the same really? why dose it not need to be in the games section? if is as you do not see them as games, well if there yet there, maybe Valve dose see them as games?
Elzahex 2016 年 1 月 21 日 下午 4:22 
引用自 SolarPulse
i dont think your argument really holds any water. comparing open-world 60$ AAA titles to visual novel porn games is apples to oranges.
I don't have much experience in VNs on Steam but most VNs don't have nudity till after a certain time. Most I've seen don't actually have nudity or eye candy, just story driven experiences. It's not like you're buying a game expecting to see sex. Witcher has more "porn" content than most VNs.
I don't like seeing strategy games because I find them boring and not the most fun. But does that mean they should be moved to a different section of steam? No. There are all kinds of genres that are covered in video games. The Last of Us is considered more of a cinimatic story driven game where the gameplay isn't the biggest focus for the game. Same for VNs, they might not have gameplay but they're not supossed to.:steamsalty:
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