Can we get proper Age verification please?

[Ishan451]

So Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 was just added and its unavailable in my Region because Valve chooses not to let me do an age verification for my country so i can buy games i would otherwise legally allowed to purchase

Valve can you finally let me do something like PostIdent in germany so i can buy Adult games that you sell to everyone else?.

[AROCK!!!]

Fenris の投稿を引用：

and again i have to question myself why a bunch of bystanders that are absolutly not affected by the issue or the possible solution, arguing about something they know nothing about and try to defend a situation that is confusing for developers and customers that could be resolved with a simple process implemented from valve.

There is a group of trolls here and in the STEAM Discussion forums that disrupt pretty much every thread that gets made, especially when it comes to Ideas and Suggestions....best to block and ignore them....like we used to say, don't feed the trolls.



The arguments about it costing money are moronic. Fact is, everything Valve does, such as this forum, costs money, and also the fact that STEAM could charge for account age verification in much the same way X (twitter) does their account verification.


The arguments about retaining info and whatnot is also bogus, as many companies do the initial verification and then mark the account as verified...this is how Amazon does the Prime TV here in Germany.
When I set up my Prime TV I had to enter some of the numbers on my passport (there were multiple ID type options), then i created a PIN, and then 18+ content was unlocked.....took all of 5 minutes.

Along with porn games, Valve would also be able to sell uncut games to any verified account, which would mean more money for them as we would no longer have to get keys from other sources.


I don't know why Valve doesn't do this, but more than likely it's either laziness or incompetence, maybe even both.

[Fenris]

Crazed vet の投稿を引用：

When I set up my Prime TV I had to enter some of the numbers on my passport (there were multiple ID type options), then i created a PIN, and then 18+ content was then unlocked.....took all of 5 minutes.

oh you right, i totaly forgot that i did the same thing, it was a really easy solution from amazon

[cinedine]

Oooh, another of those threads where people who have zero knowledge about the legal situation are giving their mustard towards it. :P
And of course the trifecta of "change your government", "Valve cannot do something every other store is perfectly capable of doing", and "not Valve's problem" has already been brought up.

The same ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ story for over five years now. It's amazing how little Valve cares and how fanbois keep whiteknightening for them as long as it doesn't affect them.

[Start_Running]

cinedine の投稿を引用：

Oooh, another of those threads where people who have zero knowledge about the legal situation are giving their mustard towards it. :P
And of course the trifecta of "change your government", "Valve cannot do something every other store is perfectly capable of doing", and "not Valve's problem" has already been brought up.

The same ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ story for over five years now. It's amazing how little Valve cares and how fanbois keep whiteknightening for them as long as it doesn't affect them.

All that needs to be known is That Valve doesn'ty see it as worth their time and money. Which implies that the revnue from such games in that region was never very high to begin with.


Or in Layman's terms. There weren't enough people buying to creat a difference in the revenue stream when they made the change.

[bidulless]

hello

For that you need to be a chinese people who have to provide card id on the web side ...That's the only way to verify your age.
https://about.steamchina.com/parentguardianship_agreement.html

[Fenris]

Start_Running の投稿を引用：

All that needs to be known is That Valve doesn'ty see it as worth their time and money. Which implies that the revnue from such games in that region was never very high to begin with.


Or in Layman's terms. There weren't enough people buying to creat a difference in the revenue stream when they made the change.

if even amazon, which is one of the greediest companys there is, brought up a solution for prime tv, this has to be simple and cheap to integrade.
and valve is not able to do this? this is just embarrassing

[Brian9824]

Fenris の投稿を引用：

and valve is not able to do this? this is just embarrassing

As its been repeatedly explained there is a difference between not able to do this, and choosing not to do this. Choosing not to sell the content complies with the law. It just complies in a way that some people don't like.

There are lots of reasons why they might not choose to do it, and they won't tell us what the reason is. They are aware of the law, aware of the restrictions its not like they don't know about it.

[Fenris]

bidulless の投稿を引用：

hello

For that you need to be a chinese people who have to provide card id on the web side ...That's the only way to verify your age.
https://about.steamchina.com/parentguardianship_agreement.html

so there is already a system, it just needs to be adjusted

[Fenris]

brian9824 の投稿を引用：

Fenris の投稿を引用：

and valve is not able to do this? this is just embarrassing

As its been repeatedly explained there is a difference between not able to do this, and choosing not to do this. Choosing not to sell the content complies with the law. It just complies in a way that some people don't like.

There are lots of reasons why they might not choose to do it, and they won't tell us what the reason is. They are aware of the law, aware of the restrictions its not like they don't know about it.

and thats the reason why it needs to be repeated that there are people who are not happy with this and there is no reason for gatekeeping a sollution

[Boblin the Goblin]

Fenris の投稿を引用：

bidulless の投稿を引用：

hello

For that you need to be a chinese people who have to provide card id on the web side ...That's the only way to verify your age.
https://about.steamchina.com/parentguardianship_agreement.html

so there is already a system, it just needs to be adjusted

China has their own Steam client that is completely separate from the global client. That's why it has one.

It also isn't maintained by Valve.

[Brian9824]

Fenris の投稿を引用：

brian9824 の投稿を引用：

As its been repeatedly explained there is a difference between not able to do this, and choosing not to do this. Choosing not to sell the content complies with the law. It just complies in a way that some people don't like.

There are lots of reasons why they might not choose to do it, and they won't tell us what the reason is. They are aware of the law, aware of the restrictions its not like they don't know about it.

and thats the reason why it needs to be repeated that there are people who are not happy with this and there is no reason for gatekeeping a sollution

Again there are multiple potential reasons, just ones that you don't like. Reasons such as

Costs being more then they'd benefit
Them taking a stance against forcing the requirements
Bigger things they are working on that benefit more people and generate more revenue
etc.

[MonkehMaster]

Fenris の投稿を引用：

bidulless の投稿を引用：

hello

For that you need to be a chinese people who have to provide card id on the web side ...That's the only way to verify your age.
https://about.steamchina.com/parentguardianship_agreement.html

so there is already a system, it just needs to be adjusted

yep, they already have systems in place, they just need to adjust and move them to other areas that require it.


as for the people who jump into threads to argue them down, without any clue how things work, or simply ignore that there are already solutions, but would rather not disclose said info in favor of arguing.... they do that purposely and in most cases, to simply get threads locked because of the arguing.

would suggest "block and ignore" , but we all know how bad that system is.

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as for the OP, i agree, they should already have a system in place in regions that require this, sadly valve does things on "valve time".

[Fenris]

brian9824 の投稿を引用：

Again there are multiple potential reasons, just ones that you don't like. Reasons such as

Costs being more then they'd benefit
Them taking a stance against forcing the requirements
Bigger things they are working on that benefit more people and generate more revenue
etc.

yeah, and i am allowed to asking for a different solution

[Boblin the Goblin]

MonkehMaster の投稿を引用：

Fenris の投稿を引用：

so there is already a system, it just needs to be adjusted

yep, they already have systems in place, they just need to adjust and move them to other areas that require it.


as for the people who jump into threads to argue them down, without any clue how things work, or simply ignore that there are already solutions, but would rather not disclose said info in favor of arguing.... they do that purposely and in most cases, to simply get threads locked because of the arguing.

would suggest "block and ignore" , but we all know how bad that system is.

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as for the OP, i agree, they should already have a system in place in regions that require this, sadly valve does thing on "valve time".

The 'system' that you are referencing is on a client that isn't maintained by Valve.

Weird how that works.

[MonkehMaster]

bidulless の投稿を引用：

hello

For that you need to be a chinese people who have to provide card id on the web side ...That's the only way to verify your age.
https://about.steamchina.com/parentguardianship_agreement.html

good post, brings to attention they already have a solution in place, they just havent got around to implementing it in other regions, it seems.

not to mention "outs" the obvious people, who create arguments where none exist.

let alone the replies they leave, showing they arent here for proper discussion.

as well as the replies trying to lure me into arguments, or claims of editing your comments is somehow a bad thing

or someone handing out "jester points" is somehow "people who were wrong, making amends on being wrong".