Don't let Microsoft buy out steam or I quit!!!!!

[Shadowfox394]

The day Microsoft buys out Steam I am going back to console games who's with me?

[nullable]

Publicado originalmente por Shadowfox394:

Who said it was a threat to begin with it's called creative criticism I am criticizing how bad it would be if Microsoft bought Steam and yeah it would be a big deal I wish a mod would really close this post seeing how it looks just like rumors for now I don't think Valve is dumb enough to give up on a legacy anyway that makes them richer than Microsoft.

That's not criticism, that's speculation.

[walkerr.]

wait that might happen? noooooo

[Crashed]

Publicado originalmente por cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Publicado originalmente por Shadowfox394:

Don't let Microsoft buy out steam or I quit!!!!!

The day Microsoft buys out Steam I am going back to console games who's with me?

And who said this was going to happen?

:winterbunny2023:

Internet rumors have more credibility now than well thought out and researched journalism these days it would appear.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Publicado originalmente por Crashed:

Publicado originalmente por cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

And who said this was going to happen?

Internet rumors have more credibility now than well thought out and researched journalism these days it would appear.

I am aware who started it and in combination of a slow news week, we get this.

[Al'Vi]

The biggest logical fallacy with this rumor is the price. 16 bil.? For Valve? Microsoft splurged 69 bil. for Actiblind Lizzard, and we all know Valve is worth at least double that, and I'm low-balling here. Not only do they have successful franchises like HL and Portal which would sell out better than CoD ever will if restarted (and Dota 2), they, unlike the aforementioned failing turd of a company, sell almost every AAA game (including CoD) to an audience encompassing most of the PC player market, multiple times a year, and with their 30% cut that dwarfs any gaming company out there in revenue.

To sum it up, Gabe would have to be an idiot to agree to such a laughable amount of money.

[muffins]

Valve should just release an official PC version of their SteamOS operating system and thus crash microsoft's share price to zero. Steam can then buy whatever bits of microsoft they want for pennies.

[cinedine]

Publicado originalmente por Al'Vi:

The biggest logical fallacy with this rumor is the price. 16 bil.? For Valve? Microsoft splurged 69 bil. for Actiblind Lizzard, and we all know Valve is worth at least double that, and I'm low-balling here. Not only do they have successful franchises like HL and Portal which would sell out better than CoD ever will if restarted (and Dota 2), they, unlike the aforementioned failing turd of a company, sell almost every AAA game (including CoD) to an audience encompassing most of the PC player market, multiple times a year, and with their 30% cut that dwarfs any gaming company out there in revenue.

To sum it up, Gabe would have to be an idiot to agree to such a laughable amount of money.

- Acti/Blizzard has *running* successful franchises, no need to first setup a costly project to see a return in five years.
- Microoft also sells most of the games. They run the XBox store, in case you forgot.
- The biggest "gaming company" from store revenue is actually Apple. Steam's gross revenue 2023 was about 3 billion. EA is making 1 billion with Ultimate Team each year.

[Brian9824]

Publicado originalmente por cinedine:

- Acti/Blizzard has *running* successful franchises, no need to first setup a costly project to see a return in five years.

Logic doesn't hold up, Activision revenue is under 10 billion a year so its going to be at least 6 years to see a return, not to mention that revenue takes more to generate as the games are expensive, where as steam doesn't require huge investments in game design to generate profit year after year. Steam's revenue is pretty close to Activision, in 2023 both made a bit over 8 billion for instance.

Publicado originalmente por cinedine:

- Microoft also sells most of the games. They run the XBox store, in case you forgot.

The Xbox store for PC is a joke, one of the worst stores around

Publicado originalmente por cinedine:

- The biggest "gaming company" from store revenue is actually Apple. Steam's gross revenue 2023 was about 3 billion. EA is making 1 billion with Ultimate Team each year.

Not sure what sources you use but i'm showing over 8 billion in 2023 - https://www.statista.com/topics/4282/steam/#topicOverview

[Al'Vi]

Publicado originalmente por cinedine:

Publicado originalmente por Al'Vi:

The biggest logical fallacy with this rumor is the price. 16 bil.? For Valve? Microsoft splurged 69 bil. for Actiblind Lizzard, and we all know Valve is worth at least double that, and I'm low-balling here. Not only do they have successful franchises like HL and Portal which would sell out better than CoD ever will if restarted (and Dota 2), they, unlike the aforementioned failing turd of a company, sell almost every AAA game (including CoD) to an audience encompassing most of the PC player market, multiple times a year, and with their 30% cut that dwarfs any gaming company out there in revenue.

To sum it up, Gabe would have to be an idiot to agree to such a laughable amount of money.

- Acti/Blizzard has *running* successful franchises, no need to first setup a costly project to see a return in five years.
- Microoft also sells most of the games. They run the XBox store, in case you forgot.
- The biggest "gaming company" from store revenue is actually Apple. Steam's gross revenue 2023 was about 3 billion. EA is making 1 billion with Ultimate Team each year.

- Of the franchises not on life support, Activist Slizzard has Hearthstone and Overwatch that can be continuously milked without high development costs for new content (just make one hero model / pay for a set of card graphics + some balance testing). Each new CoD, each new WoW expac, each new Diablo IV expac needs AAA investment because you can't just add a couple assets and call it content.
- And I'm not talking about how much Microsoft (or even Xbox gaming) costs. So no, it's not that I forgot, it's just not pertinent.
- Yeah, it's because Apple owns the marketplace for selling mobile games. It doesn't even make them. So, funnily enough, you just made my point - marketplaces for selling games with a massive market share of their respective platforms are worth more than actual game developers.

[Shadowfox394]

Publicado originalmente por muffins:

Valve should just release an official PC version of their SteamOS operating system and thus crash microsoft's share price to zero. Steam can then buy whatever bits of microsoft they want for pennies.

YESSSSS they need to make SteamOS public I just switched to a Linux distro to combat this I don't hate Valve so don't end up killing me here I hate modern Windows. I think the last good Windows was Windows 7 and all of a sudden people are interested in invading people's privacy it appears the government doesn't know when to stop spying on people and using companies to do their dirty work for them. I am okay with Linux I think it would just suck if they were bought out pardon my language out by a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ company that is basically turning into Skynet. Ubuntu Cinnamon CLAIMS to be LTS I don't know what their end of life is on an LTS operating system but I am loving how more modern it feels than Windows so far I am having a kick how premium the load screen is looking I need to do some tweaks but everything appears to be stabled I want to try Linux Lite but I am already having issues after installing it because I am not wanting to transition to the Skynet version of Windows. UPDATE I've been seeing games like Sonic Frontiers transition to Linux we might just get our wish and have Valve just transition all games to have a Linux option in the near future which I wish Valve could mandate a Linux option I just want to play a video game.

[FOXDUDE69]

I dunno. The new DOOM is buzzing.

No Cap.

Plus Gaben got no rizz like Phil Spencer.

[WraithTargundaMajarie]

Publicado originalmente por cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Publicado originalmente por Shadowfox394:

Don't let Microsoft buy out steam or I quit!!!!!

The day Microsoft buys out Steam I am going back to console games who's with me?

And who said this was going to happen?

:winterbunny2023:

Ever Heard The Term??

In An Act Of War, You Bring Your Troops In,
Cease Portions Of The Environment, & When
It's Time, You Strike War...

It's An Act Of Invasion In Order To Take The Environment Over...


Google Incorporated It's Self Into Windows System Files,
Google Has Also Incorporated It's Self Into STEAM Files,
Windows Has Majority Of Where Games Come From On
STEAM, & On Top Of That It's All Natively Controlled Over
The Windows Platfrom Right Now...

Windows Has More Control Over
Proton Then You Think, & Less
Then You Think Linux Does...

Without Windows, There Is No Proton For Linux, ~_~

There Is Also The Fact That Windows Is Bringing
It's Content Over To The STEAM Store Now...



STEAM & Windows Are Getting Awfully, Awfully Close
With A Relationship With Each Other Lately, A Lot Of
Connecting Dots Together, o_@

Plus There Has Been A Market For X-Box Live,
Windows Store, & STEAM To All Merge Into One,
Especially With Sony & Microsoft Deal Coming
Up Soon As A Conjoined Partnership...

The Majority Of Gaming Will Be All Owned By Microsoft & Google...

The Only Outside Market Would Be Nintendo,
& 3rd Parties That Won't Mean Anything, ~_~

Which Means, Microsoft & Google Will
Not Only Own Gaming, But Also Be The
Front Runner For An AI Frontal Platform... ~_~




It Would Be The Ultimate Buyout...

And The One Company People Least Expected To Be
The Top Of The Control Over The Entire Thing??

Would Be Microsoft & Google Joined Together...


Would That Make Them A Mega Trillionare At That Point??



Whatever The Case Is:


People Really, Really Screwed This Up, & Whatever Is
Happening, There Is Also The Possibiliy That Someone
Who Buys It, Might Just Hit The Power On The Whole
Thing, & Have It All Deleted In The Press Of A Button, Too...

Whatever The Case Is...

I'm Not Letting Myself Be Manipulated Into
Buying Ino Whatever Garbage Trap They
Are Throwing At Us At All... ~_~

[cinedine]

Publicado originalmente por brian9824:

So you still didn't post your source, your free to call Statistia a joke but it's more accurate then the unsubstantiated number your throwing around. So again what is your source to claim their revenue?

Statista is a joke because they don't give sources either unless you pay for it. And even then you often have their own "research" without the actual data. So what is your source besides a mystical aggregator?

Also doesn't matter. You cited game sale revenue. VGinsights estimate 9 bln total gross revenue with a self-reported error margin of 15 %. I ask again: how much is Valve taking of this? 20-25 %. (Top 10 games are abt 61 % of revenue. 500 titles made more than 3 million in sales, the 20 % cut applies after 50 million.) Add market transactions and consider 100 % for their own games, which are a sizeable amount and guess where you come out eventually with some critical thinking applied: abt 3 bln +/- a few 100 millions.
(There would also be hardware sales with the Steam Deck, but it's hard to find data on this and since they claim to sell them near cost, I simply ignore it. I'd be surprised if it's a substantial part of business, anyway.)

Again: poor show for someone who recently boasted about having "multiple business degrees". Maybe you should concern yourself less with bowel movements?

[Crashed]

Since this is apparently a hoax, why haven't moderator shut down this thread?

[Brian9824]

Publicado originalmente por cinedine:

I gave a source. I also explained how I arrived at my value.

You guessing random numbers while saying you don't know their sales and ignoring stuff like the market place, subscriptions, etc isn't a source.


Then again it's not surprising you refuse to provide any actual link to your source because it doesn't exist.

It's easy to dismiss anyone else's source when you refuse to link your own